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June 22, 2018, 07:00:58 AM
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For investors who tend to hold and make money or invest in cryptocurrency and let it rest there for a long time, it is very important that the value of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies to go up, because if it wont, then their investments would end up being counted as a loss, an increasing value of cryptocurrency also means increasing value of the cryptocommunity.

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June 22, 2018, 12:53:18 PM
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In my opinion, stable growth is good enough for the holders and investors, but for the day traders, better would be to have some unstable and volatile jumps, then they would be able to trade and have their money.
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June 23, 2018, 08:06:36 AM
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I don't agree with you, that it is important. The market is cruel, and for that constant rise is unbelievable. But i think good words about constant rise of Bitcoin. If that way every one, who invest had earn money, but don't forget, that it is a market.
What I think about the constant rise in the market value of Bitcoin is that it is very important for Bitcoin to have constant rising prices or in other words consistently rising. This will boom the output of the people who have already invested in the currency.

But this will hinder the future investment of those who want to join and do not have enough funds. So what is going is good. The fluctuation is something that invites the people to invest in the market.
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June 23, 2018, 10:09:37 AM
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Constant rising price of bitcoin is important because it makes the bitcoin more valuable and attractive to the bitcoiner and potential, investors, it's make sense when the price keeps on rising.
When BTC rises, some other coins will rise and that is when investors sell their altcoins to the market to make a profit. So I think BTC is the king of the cipher market and they Determine the price of the remaining atlcoin.
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June 23, 2018, 10:11:40 AM
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change is really not constant it can be different base on what is happening in the market the increase now will not be the same increase tomorrow same when its getting dumped, but it is the basis where a certain currency or investment is heading base on its trend investors follow this on how they are gonna manage their port folios because change is inevitable.
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June 25, 2018, 12:51:14 PM
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Let's say you bought a bitcoin for $1000 in January 2018. <Just an example, not the real price at the time>

So you have to beat inflation and also the performance of other investments to say that your Bitcoin investment was a better investment, than other alternative investments.

Let's say your inflation is 5% and your best return on some other investment is %20 per year, then your Bitcoin price increase will have to be more than %25 to beat the alternative investment.  

Let's say you hoard for 5 years, then you would need a price increase of 125% to beat your alternative investment returns over 5 years.

So we cannot have a price increase of 800% in year 1 and then a price decrease of %400 in year 2 and another price decrease of 200% in year 3 and so on...

Hope you get at what I am saying. Hoarding might be harmful to your profits, if you do not cash out SOME profit on the ATH.  Wink ..... You might end up with a bitcoin worth $100 in year 5.  Roll Eyes

Bitcoin has grown so much in few past years, we can expect it to repeat something like that in next few years, but as he has shown us recently, our anticipations in nothing, lol.
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June 26, 2018, 06:59:21 AM
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Let's say you bought a bitcoin for $1000 in January 2018. <Just an example, not the real price at the time>

So you have to beat inflation and also the performance of other investments to say that your Bitcoin investment was a better investment, than other alternative investments.

Let's say your inflation is 5% and your best return on some other investment is %20 per year, then your Bitcoin price increase will have to be more than %25 to beat the alternative investment.  

Let's say you hoard for 5 years, then you would need a price increase of 125% to beat your alternative investment returns over 5 years.

So we cannot have a price increase of 800% in year 1 and then a price decrease of %400 in year 2 and another price decrease of 200% in year 3 and so on...

Hope you get at what I am saying. Hoarding might be harmful to your profits, if you do not cash out SOME profit on the ATH.  Wink ..... You might end up with a bitcoin worth $100 in year 5.  Roll Eyes
Its just because of bitcoin whales. Bitcoin whales are the real reason why bitcoin price is pump and dump so if you see that bitcoin pump and dump you should wait until the bull and it is a new. The first is to give up again this year, right now is to invest, the best cryptocurrency in our beloved.
Small corrections are no problem for bitcoin investors but huge pump and dump destroy small investors. They lose all their money and they never think of investing again in bitcoin. With constant growth the early investors made thousands of dollars and now they are the richest people of their community. But now the price is volatile and due to this volatility many investors lost their money
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June 26, 2018, 07:15:36 AM
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well, yeah, hoarding or hodling your investments are not healthy depending on the percentage of yearly inflation, it is not wise to just sit and look at it for 5 years without even cashing out a penny, the statistics last 5 years ago is different from today, if you based your stats for the past 5 years, you will loose a lot, considering the new factors that affects the price, obviously, the factors 5 years ago was way to different, the market is ever changing, 5 years is too much. let us talk about 5 months rather.

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June 26, 2018, 07:27:03 AM
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I think that bitcoin needs stable, constant growth primarily because this factor attracts a large number of investors to the market. Stability is confidence in the future. When investors observe constancy, they are ready to invest large sums, as they know that such a move will bring them a good income.
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June 27, 2018, 07:42:51 PM
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Constant rising price of bitcoin is important because it makes the bitcoin more valuable and attractive to the bitcoiner and potential, investors, it's make sense when the price keeps on rising.
Any reasonable investor will always know that it is impossible for a market to just keep going up and up without having some moment of retrace one way or the other. This huge movement in the price upward attracted a lot of investors, both most especially the inexperienced ones, but one thing though is that everyone is part of the big market, from experienced investors and traders to the inexperienced ones.

It is not realistic to just keep seeing the market going up without anything serious causing it than speculation, so I feel the importance is not even something we should be discussing.
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June 27, 2018, 08:52:16 PM
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I think that bitcoin needs stable, constant growth primarily because this factor attracts a large number of investors to the market. Stability is confidence in the future. When investors observe constancy, they are ready to invest large sums, as they know that such a move will bring them a good income.
Agreed. Aconstant rise in price even just a steady growth in bitcoin will make the investors even more attracted and feels even more safe and secured if they see their investments keep on growing along with time.Of course price fluctuations may be inevitable but hopefully the price won't always stay on downtrend.

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June 27, 2018, 09:22:48 PM
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It is not realistic to just keep seeing the market going up without anything serious causing it than speculation, so I feel the importance is not even something we should be discussing.

It depends on the level of growth and the time it needs to establish and maintain it in a way we can have it last a very long time. We can't ignore the speculative aspect of Bitcoin, but below all that speculation hides a consistent level of growth that we managed to stretch out till where we are today. I always look at the price and at least cut off 25% of it during normal market activity to determine what a fair reflection of the price looks like. The lowest point I did it at was $7000 and if we deduct 25% of that price we see $5250 pop up, which I believe is a fair price. It doesn't mean much technically, but it did help me not take every latest exchange rate too seriously.
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June 27, 2018, 11:22:29 PM
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Let's say you bought a bitcoin for $1000 in January 2018. <Just an example, not the real price at the time>

So you have to beat inflation and also the performance of other investments to say that your Bitcoin investment was a better investment, than other alternative investments.

Let's say your inflation is 5% and your best return on some other investment is %20 per year, then your Bitcoin price increase will have to be more than %25 to beat the alternative investment.  

Let's say you hoard for 5 years, then you would need a price increase of 125% to beat your alternative investment returns over 5 years.

So we cannot have a price increase of 800% in year 1 and then a price decrease of %400 in year 2 and another price decrease of 200% in year 3 and so on...

Hope you get at what I am saying. Hoarding might be harmful to your profits, if you do not cash out SOME profit on the ATH.  Wink ..... You might end up with a bitcoin worth $100 in year 5.  Roll Eyes
While you are correct when you say a constant growth will be good for bitcoin especially for all of those that see bitcoin mostly as a form of investment, at the same time you are setting the bar too high, while there are many investments that can give profits of 20% per year most people do not know how to find them and so the average profit should be something between 2% to 8% per year and that is an amount bitcoin can easily give each year.

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June 28, 2018, 01:09:17 AM
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Let's say you bought a bitcoin for $1000 in January 2018. <Just an example, not the real price at the time>

So you have to beat inflation and also the performance of other investments to say that your Bitcoin investment was a better investment, than other alternative investments.

Let's say your inflation is 5% and your best return on some other investment is %20 per year, then your Bitcoin price increase will have to be more than %25 to beat the alternative investment.  

Let's say you hoard for 5 years, then you would need a price increase of 125% to beat your alternative investment returns over 5 years.

So we cannot have a price increase of 800% in year 1 and then a price decrease of %400 in year 2 and another price decrease of 200% in year 3 and so on...

Hope you get at what I am saying. Hoarding might be harmful to your profits, if you do not cash out SOME profit on the ATH.  Wink ..... You might end up with a bitcoin worth $100 in year 5.  Roll Eyes

In my own opinion, a constant price increase is not necessary because people still needs time to invest and that's when the market price are dropping so volatility is just fine at the moment for traders to get benefit.

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June 28, 2018, 01:29:03 AM
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The rise of bitcoin is driven by many factors. In the end, the rise of BTC prices is due to the increasing perfection of its investment attributes. BTC no breakthrough in usage scenarios, but as an investment, BTC has already is an important investment target, whose nature is more and more like gold, its use value is no longer important, important is its increasingly recognized as an investment.

Yes bitcoin price should be constant because if its go down it will affect all alt coin. So that's why bitcoin must stable or go up do that market will be alive and the same with users and investors.

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June 28, 2018, 01:34:41 AM
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The main reason I think it can't retain its value is- people are treating it as a stock and investment vehicle. However, the true idea behind bitcoin is for it to be a digital currency.

A currency is used to exchange goods and services, but as we all know mass adoption hasn't made it here yet so actual bitcoin transactions are minimal. Meaning a service or good was paid for in bitcoin.

From my understanding, this is how it should work... Bitcoin as Currency Example-i have $5000 in cash, i then purchase/convert my $5000 in cash into BTC. Then i use my btc to do everyday transactions. So let's say I buy a cheeseburger and for it in btc. The btc is deducted from my wallet and transferred to the vendor. Done its paid for. The value of bitcoin doesn't change, it only changes hands- the value still stays with-in the btc market.

However what is happening is... Bitcoin as investment vehicle Example- I buy $5000 in bitcoin, then 500 more people buy $5000 in bitcoin, we see a huge increase in bitcoin value, so I see my $5000 turn into $7000, so now I sell it. I walk away with $2000 of someone else's money. Now that money is taken out of the bitcoin market

The difference between a stock and btc- the stock is backed by a product that generates revenue. Bitcoin only has a value from the money someone invests in it. Because ideally if it were a currency- if I'm worth $100,000 USD, and I buy $100,000 btc- my net worth doesn't change, it doesn't become worth more. I simply just transact in btc aka DIGITAL CASH
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June 28, 2018, 11:33:07 PM
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Dont complicate things, bitcoin will pump in value causing you to gain profit but we cannot neglect the fact that it is not always pumping at some point the value will surely drop and will cause your fund to lose. Bitcoin doesn't need to be constantly growing for ypu to earn, trading with wise strategy is the best way to have, regardless of the price track. Its good to have a price and ever growing price but its not the real thing about bitcoin.

In my own opinion, constant rise of price is not necessary in the market because if the price will keep on increasing then there is no people who will be able to invest since it was too expensive, volatile market is always required in order to earn more profit.
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June 28, 2018, 11:40:22 PM
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Dont complicate things, bitcoin will pump in value causing you to gain profit but we cannot neglect the fact that it is not always pumping at some point the value will surely drop and will cause your fund to lose. Bitcoin doesn't need to be constantly growing for ypu to earn, trading with wise strategy is the best way to have, regardless of the price track. Its good to have a price and ever growing price but its not the real thing about bitcoin.

In my own opinion, constant rise of price is not necessary in the market because if the price will keep on increasing then there is no people who will be able to invest since it was too expensive, volatile market is always required in order to earn more profit.
As said volatile market is a must, because only with that it is possible to make profit. Also it is the one that makes the cryptocurrencies unique from the traditional fiat which has a constant value. In specific this volatility need to be felt with constant price increase, looking at the present market there is no constant price increase, continued fall is taking place which will affect the entire networkand the users.

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June 28, 2018, 11:41:49 PM
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Dont complicate things, bitcoin will pump in value causing you to gain profit but we cannot neglect the fact that it is not always pumping at some point the value will surely drop and will cause your fund to lose. Bitcoin doesn't need to be constantly growing for ypu to earn, trading with wise strategy is the best way to have, regardless of the price track. Its good to have a price and ever growing price but its not the real thing about bitcoin.

In my own opinion, constant rise of price is not necessary in the market because if the price will keep on increasing then there is no people who will be able to invest since it was too expensive, volatile market is always required in order to earn more profit.
Honestly you're right.Volatility is what makes the market more unique and definitely giving chances to the people to invest while in dips and gain good income when prices are in high.I do not ask of a high constant rise of the price,just seeing the market having its steady growth is already good for me.
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June 29, 2018, 05:37:20 AM
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We often see a lot of fluctuations in the price of Bitcoin. Sometimes the price is high and sometimes the price is low but currently we are noticing some regular drops in the price of Bitcoin from quite a long time.Due to these many investors are cashing out and new investors are afraid to work with it.This makes the  price to fall more which is affecting the whole crypto market.So in order to maintain the stability of the market and to convince people for keeping trust in Bitcoin, a constant rise in the price along with some drops is very important.
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