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August 22, 2011, 09:13:02 PM
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Um, the police did the right thing.  No reason why they would risk being fired for the sake of some greedy people who want to avoid paying for a permit.  Its not their land so they have no right to use it against the will of the owners.


I am not questioning if they did the right thing.

I can't take you seriously if you think any of this was about greed.  I imagine if your neighbor was fined a million dollars for some minor problem, then you would say "Suck it up and stop being so greedy."  Yes, I think you would.

Perhaps I don't know what "public" means, but if I get your rebuttal correct, then they could sell their lemonade on my property if i gave them permission?  Well, I say, congratulations, you understand the point of the protest.  I am so proud of you.
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August 22, 2011, 09:28:51 PM
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In simple terms, they don't own the land.  They want to use the land to sell stuff.  Lemonade, beer, burgers, clothes, souvenirs, its a great spot.

The owner of the land does not want it used for vendors.

The police, acting on behalf of the land owner, asked them to stop using the owners land and when they refused, the police arrested them.

Thats what police are for; they did the right thing.

Of course its win for the protesters, as the main objective of the protest is to get people to consider rezoning that area as commercial property and at least we are talking about it.  But don't confuse the issue by regarding the police as the problem.  If you don't like the rule, the land owner is the problem.


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August 23, 2011, 01:30:27 AM
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In simple terms, they don't own the land.  They want to use the land to sell stuff.  Lemonade, beer, burgers, clothes, souvenirs, its a great spot.

The owner of the land does not want it used for vendors.

Oh my god.

This has absolutely nothing to do with what this video is about.

Even if the owner of the land said "Hey vendors come and sell lemonade on my land!" they still would be breaking the law* because they didn't get an official license to sell lemonade.

*This is the law they're protesting, not some private/public property issue.

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August 23, 2011, 01:51:14 AM
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Is some sort of license required to sell lemonade on your own private property? I have never heard of such a requirement, but I have never had the need to look into it.
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August 23, 2011, 02:16:41 AM
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This protest has no respect for property rights. If they want to have the right to sell lemonade on their property without a permit then why don't they do it on THEIR PROPERTY/PROVISIONED PRIVATE PROPERTY?

They make their whole cause look bad.
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August 23, 2011, 03:00:44 AM
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This protest has no respect for property rights. If they want to have the right to sell lemonade on their property without a permit then why don't they do it on THEIR PROPERTY/PROVISIONED PRIVATE PROPERTY?

They make their whole cause look bad.

Wow... mark your calendars, folks.  This will be the first and probably only time I agree 100% with Atlas.

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August 23, 2011, 04:21:22 AM
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This protest has no respect for property rights. If they want to have the right to sell lemonade on their property without a permit then why don't they do it on THEIR PROPERTY/PROVISIONED PRIVATE PROPERTY?

They make their whole cause look bad.

Wow... mark your calendars, folks.  This will be the first and probably only time I agree 100% with Atlas.

I also 100% agree.

If they had have done as Immatlas Go suggested then people watching the video wouldn't mistake the issue for one of property rights instead of one of vendor-licensing requirements.

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August 23, 2011, 05:02:29 AM
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Are you saying that if I set up a lemonade stand on my own private property (in USA) with the intent to sell lemonade, I would need to get a vendor license?
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August 23, 2011, 05:07:47 AM
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Are you saying that if I set up a lemonade stand on my own private property (in USA) with the intent to sell lemonade, I would need to get a vendor license?

Yes. In my town that is the case.
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August 23, 2011, 05:08:11 AM
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This protest has no respect for property rights. If they want to have the right to sell lemonade on their property without a permit then why don't they do it on THEIR PROPERTY/PROVISIONED PRIVATE PROPERTY?

They make their whole cause look bad.

Wow... mark your calendars, folks.  This will be the first and probably only time I agree 100% with Atlas.
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August 23, 2011, 05:09:27 AM
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Are you saying that if I set up a lemonade stand on my own private property (in USA) with the intent to sell lemonade, I would need to get a vendor license?

The police is shutting down a lot of kid stands that try to sell lemonade to earn a few dollars during summer (like they use to do) because they require to pay a license. We can not allow the kids to take business away from the big operators and so we need regulations to keep the big business safe... This was an act of protest against it.
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August 23, 2011, 05:13:08 AM
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Are you saying that if I set up a lemonade stand on my own private property (in USA) with the intent to sell lemonade, I would need to get a vendor license?

Yes. In my town that is the case.
In my state as well. I actually think it's completely illegal here to sell food/beverages out of your house. It needs to be a business facility with all permits/sanitary inspections made.

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August 23, 2011, 05:36:22 AM
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Are you saying that if I set up a lemonade stand on my own private property (in USA) with the intent to sell lemonade, I would need to get a vendor license?

Yes. In my town that is the case.
In my state as well. I actually think it's completely illegal here to sell food/beverages out of your house. It needs to be a business facility with all permits/sanitary inspections made.

Interesting, I was not aware of that. Do you know what section of municipal/state code that appears? Business/Corporate code or Health/Safety? I am interested in digging into this more.
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August 23, 2011, 05:40:32 AM
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I think a new version of this song/animation is needed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtN1YnoL46Q

...one where the authorities come in and shut him down for having no license.

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August 23, 2011, 06:40:38 AM
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Are you saying that if I set up a lemonade stand on my own private property (in USA) with the intent to sell lemonade, I would need to get a vendor license?

The police is shutting down a lot of kid stands that try to sell lemonade to earn a few dollars during summer (like they use to do) because they require to pay a license. We can not allow the kids to take business away from the big operators and so we need regulations to keep the big business safe... This was an act of protest against it.

If you allow the kids to set up vending stand on someone else's property, then you have to allow the big business to do so as well.

Is that really your utopia?  One where people or corporations can come along, use your property against your wishes, the police do nothing and and you end up resorting to violence?

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August 23, 2011, 07:14:35 AM
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Are you saying that if I set up a lemonade stand on my own private property (in USA) with the intent to sell lemonade, I would need to get a vendor license?

The police is shutting down a lot of kid stands that try to sell lemonade to earn a few dollars during summer (like they use to do) because they require to pay a license. We can not allow the kids to take business away from the big operators and so we need regulations to keep the big business safe... This was an act of protest against it.

If you allow the kids to set up vending stand on someone else's property, then you have to allow the big business to do so as well.

Is that really your utopia?  One where people or corporations can come along, use your property against your wishes, the police do nothing and and you end up resorting to violence?

Holy shit man are you even reading this thread? hugolp said absolutely nothing of using other people's property.

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August 23, 2011, 07:58:33 AM
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Holy shit man are you even reading this thread? hugolp said absolutely nothing of using other people's property.

He is a known troll. Not even worth answering. Just ignore him.
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August 23, 2011, 09:13:04 AM
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Are you saying that if I set up a lemonade stand on my own private property (in USA) with the intent to sell lemonade, I would need to get a vendor license?

The police is shutting down a lot of kid stands that try to sell lemonade to earn a few dollars during summer (like they use to do) because they require to pay a license. We can not allow the kids to take business away from the big operators and so we need regulations to keep the big business safe... This was an act of protest against it.

If you allow the kids to set up vending stand on someone else's property, then you have to allow the big business to do so as well.

Is that really your utopia?  One where people or corporations can come along, use your property against your wishes, the police do nothing and and you end up resorting to violence?

Holy shit man are you even reading this thread? hugolp said absolutely nothing of using other people's property.

Watch the video.  They are using other people's property.

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August 23, 2011, 10:03:32 AM
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Are you saying that if I set up a lemonade stand on my own private property (in USA) with the intent to sell lemonade, I would need to get a vendor license?

The police is shutting down a lot of kid stands that try to sell lemonade to earn a few dollars during summer (like they use to do) because they require to pay a license. We can not allow the kids to take business away from the big operators and so we need regulations to keep the big business safe... This was an act of protest against it.

If you allow the kids to set up vending stand on someone else's property, then you have to allow the big business to do so as well.

Is that really your utopia?  One where people or corporations can come along, use your property against your wishes, the police do nothing and and you end up resorting to violence?

Holy shit man are you even reading this thread? hugolp said absolutely nothing of using other people's property.

Watch the video.  They are using other people's property.

No shit, it still doesn't change hugolp's post... however I'll take his advice and ignore you from now on.

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August 23, 2011, 10:36:58 AM
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Its funny how when people are wrong about something, the answer is "Troll; I'll ignore you."

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