SCRIPT GENIUS WANTED for ALT COIN PARTNERSHIP [Click Thread To View Coins!!!]

[suchnoob]

Ah more coins..bring it on!

At this rate we will soon have 1 coin for each individual forum member then we can all just mine our own coins

individualcoin

u make your own coin, and its worthless, but you can have as many as you want.

Why does EVERY altcoin has to have COIN in it's name.

I have a better name for your BOMBCOIN

KABOOM!


Still pointless releases in an already saturated market with pointless releases. But gl anyway!

[funkycoin]

I've also added the branding for JPYCoin (JPY) [Japanese Yen]. Please take a look at the link below.

JPYCoin.com (JPY)
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=7EDDC4E32F15408%21192
Japenese Yen Coin (JPY). Central to the portfolio I wish to develop are 12 key global currency domains. The portfolio includes generics for the major currency markets. These are not ‘ALT’ or fad coins, these represent coins that are perfect for exchanging real currency on the global financial markets:

Steve

[YoyodyneSystems]

I think you should have just asked for a DEV and not released all your ideas at once here.
Also focus on one single coin at a time.

[tyz]

Bombcoin? Stockscoin? JpyCoin? I am waiting for FuckCoin, WhoreCoin, PissCoin... Who needs all those alt coins???

[funkycoin]

I think you should have just asked for a DEV and not released all your ideas at once here.
Also focus on one single coin at a time.

YoyodyneSystems
Many thanks for your input in to my thread.

Can you recommend a good good DEV to approach or can you give me a personal introduction, that is what this thread is really about.

These are just some of the ideas I have so actually there is much more to the project than I have illustrated here. This thread was is intended as a first step to make contact with a DEV and as I don't know who the key DEVs are I thought best to start here.

The thread is just an initial showcase to sample my branding and design strengths.

What I have found is much of the branding of ALT coins is like amateurish 'CLIP ART'. Dodge coin is a good example of this.
I am trying to create coin IDs that have the brand value of quality and reliability and have long term future investment potential rather than being 'FADS' thrown out there to make short term gains on the ALT market. Strong branding is a major factor when planning for long term evolution.

This is one reason I put so much time in to the initial BRANDING and DESIGN as I see this as key to success and to be taken seriously.

[funkycoin]

I am waiting for FuckCoin, WhoreCoin, PissCoin... Who needs all those alt coins???

Funnily enough I did look up FuckCoin.com a few weeks ago and it had already been registered.
Guessing you could still pick up PissCoin.com and WhoreCoin.com although although I havn't looked myself.

[funkycoin]

I have now added photos of the coins to the the front page of this post.
Steve

[markm]

The relationship between tech experts and design/branding experts is very important and I'm looking for a DEV who can see the potential of my branding abilities so that the relationship is mutually complimentary and the formula of our success. Again going back to my Ford Car and motoring analogy design and streamling the chasis is as important as the mechanics and machinery underneath that make the car work.

End consumers are usually less worried about what lies beneath a product and exactly how it works... they just want it to work, perform well, look great and be a great ride. the same applies for nearly every product on the commercial market which is why design and branding is key to success.

A good way to cash in on your skills then could be to develop good branding / creatives / logo / etc for an existing coin that already does actually work and is actually secure.

There is such a wide spread of coins available that, as you yourself say, need skills such as yours applied to them.

Some of them you can pick up lots of dirt cheap.

If as you seem to think your skills can enhance the value of a coin, you should be able to make fortunes just picking up large numbers of dirt cheap coins, giving their clients, websites and so on a facelift, nice new logo, landing-pages, motto (I forget the name, a catchy string of words) and so on.

If you cannot do that then I would have to wonder about your ability to carry-through, to continue making the brand's "creative" fresh and new and appealing and responsive to what is going on around it. (Like for example how DOGE comes out with new timely memes in response to what is going on in the world even such things as religious or secular holiday-seasons and such...)

The under the hood stuff well heck as you say the end user just cares that it works.

So it would make more sense maybe to go to town doing awesome branding for Bitcoin itself, that already works and is closer than any other coin to actually managing to secure its blockchain, than to waste your awesome abilities on something that is vulnerable to attack.

-MarkM-

[markm]

Okay so how many millions do you have invested in specialised gear to secure your coins? Will they all be merged together so your one type of specialised gear will be able to secure all of them or will you be creating a different ASIC for each? (Or do you simply plan to scam people into trusting instead of actually being secure?) -MarkM-

As mentioned earlier in this thread I'm looking for an experienced DEV to run with my creative concepts and brands. I have no experience in the cryptography side or the server security side which is why I am looking for an DEV partner.

So far you sound too much like all the kiddies throwing out coin after coin after coin to crash and burn.

The impression I get is that you want to churn out even more crapcoins, but make them look slicker so they sucker more fools into losing their money.

Before even one coin is actually up and running and secured already you are on about more different coins.

No ASICs taped out yet to secure the first one, less than half of the hashing power still - none at all that you have mentioned, actually - and already you seem to be moving on to yet another coin.

So basically a serial scammer with a slick con-man plan to paper-over the intrinsic fundamental lack of ability to actually secure even one coin with a plan to keep churning out newer slicker scams leaving a trail of victims holding a series of pretty bags.

The entire cryptocoin community all working together is incapable of even just supporting the coins we already have, let alone securing them, yet your plan is to kick all the victims of all those ponzi schemes to the kerb and wow them with newer better ponzi schemes that will victimise more of them faster and maybe even bilk them out of more money per victim than the existing scams.

Sounds like a scammer olympics in which you aim to be the slickest scammer of all...

How about putting your skills to work doing something constructive, like rescuing some of the victims already strewn all over the landscape, putting shiny attractive skins onto something that might actually be secure and worthwhile, basically use your skills to try to ensure that the public does not get sucked in by more and more scams but instead recognises at a glance the most secure places to store their wealth and finds them more attractive than the scams constantly being spewed out?

-MarkM-

[chip99]

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[markm]

I've also added the branding for JPYCoin (JPY) [Japanese Yen]. Please take a look at the link below.

JPYCoin.com (JPY)
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=7EDDC4E32F15408%21192
Japenese Yen Coin (JPY). Central to the portfolio I wish to develop are 12 key global currency domains. The portfolio includes generics for the major currency markets. These are not ‘ALT’ or fad coins, these represent coins that are perfect for exchanging real currency on the global financial markets:

Steve

For these maybe either the Mastercoin platform or the Bitshares platform might work, depending on whether either of those platforms does turn out to actually work itself.

Both platforms have among their target features the ability to attempt to "peg" a currency to something.

Thus if either works it ought to be possible to run your twelve fiat-related currencies as actually being pegged to the corresponding fiats.

Japanese Yen Coin for example makes little or no sense if in fact it is entirely unrelated to Japanese Yen.

Mastercoin and Bitshares are two different technology platforms aiming to implement such relationships.

Of the two and assuming they actually turn out to work, which remains to be seen, I tend to prefer bitshares simply because Mastercoin calls for "trusted oracles". However they also plan "contracts for difference" as an alternative approach; I am not sure yet whether their "contracts for difference" also involve oracles or whether, like certain setups of "long coins and short coins", they will operate without needing to know the "actual prices" of things or even whether markets even exist for such things.

(With "long coins and short coins" people just trade the long and short coins, the system needs no information about what prices the things being shorted or longed might or might not have out in the world, it is possible for both players to profit even since each might know of a place where they can get a good price for one of the things, so that each ends up with the thing he or she can get the best price for. There is no need for them to reveal to each other what those best prices are nor where or how one would go about getting such a price. At most you could deduce, if the players are rational, the approximate prices those specific actors "must presumably think they can get somewhere" for the thing they choose to walk away with. Like "Oh gosh he paid that much for one of those? He must know a place that pays a lot more for those than people in my neighborhood do!" kind of thing.)

-MarkM-

[funkycoin]

markm

So far you sound too much like all the kiddies throwing out coin after coin after coin to crash and burn.

Many thanks for your very thorough and considered analysis of the current project position. I take it all on board and agree with much of what you say. Without a smart DEV coins become 'just another coin' that has very little intrinsic value.

This thread is not about finding someone to simply clone a current coin and chuck some more coins out there. The ideas I have are innovative and require more than cloning and patching. I understand that in a fast evolving market place like this I have to move fast and in the short term if I cannot identify a genius I may have to move my project on with someone skillful who is still on the learning curve but like me to passionate about what they do, hungry to learn, develop innovate, solve problems and troubleshoot successfully.

As the thread title states I am looking for a genius... not a motor mechanic from the local garage to build me a kit car, but a lambourghini engineeer who understands the importance that without the vision of the chassis designer the engine is nothing more than a engine on wheels. Great for other engineers to appreciate the craftsmanship of the engine but for it to turn end user heads the product design is an essential part of brand's success.

Yes it is true, an engineer who makes the engine can buy the services of a chassis designer and vice versa but in this instance I am looking for a partner who I can work with. This is the simple reason the thread has been started, not just to air my ideas or get feedback on them even though this is very useful.

So I keep coming back to same question as this is what the thread is about. Do you know any genius DEVS personally who you could me a n introduction to?

Thx,
Steve

[markm]

It is easy to find the genius Devs: they are the ones dedicated to genius projects, busily hiring all the best coders they can get hold of because there is no way they can write all of the code for the genius projects all by themselves.

You might consider Jed for example, who created MtGox and sold it, created Ripple and is rumoured to have moved on from that too.

What did he move on to, though? I do not know. Evidently not to your genius projects?

The genius devs seem to usually pay top dollar to get the best coders and cryptographers and such, maybe you can convince them that it might also be worth their while to hire the best graphical artists, logo designers, catchy-phrase makers or whatever else it is that you do.

Do you also do marketing, by the way? As in high clickthrough ratio landing pages, high response email campaigns, maybe even to vast targeted email lists that you have built up during your career?

Maybe if you demonstrate your value by helping a genius dev maximise the value of the genius project that is currently taking up all their time you can then attempt to convince them that your genius projects deserve a place closer to the front of their queue of genius projects yet to be worked on rather than falling way off the end beyond all the projects they already have lined up but just don't have time to get to... (Until, maybe, a genius like you accelerates their current project's success so they can move on through the queue faster?)

I think there is an article out there somewhere though about the ability to even recognise genius devs (aka hackers), I will try to find it for you.

EDIT: Maybe it was this one: http://www.paulgraham.com/gh.html

-MarkM-

[funkycoin]

Steve Jobs seems to be particularly good at this, in part simply by having high standards. There were a lot of small, inexpensive computers before the Mac. He redefined the problem as: make one that's beautiful. And that probably drove the developers harder than any carrot or stick could.

They certainly delivered. When the Mac first appeared, you didn't even have to turn it on to know it would be good; you could tell from the case. A few weeks ago I was walking along the street in Cambridge, and in someone's trash I saw what appeared to be a Mac carrying case. I looked inside, and there was a Mac SE. I carried it home and plugged it in, and it booted. The happy Macintosh face, and then the finder. My God, it was so simple. It was just like ... Google.

Thx Mark for the input even though there is a strong undertone of skepticism as to the value of what I bring to the table and whether a top DEV would give me the time of day.

I have read the Paul Graham link [quote above] which is very interesting and it highlights the importance of why image and product design are so important. Apple were there first company to understand this in the programming world and to this day they have made this a key parameter that drives their evolution. Apple have made 'beautiful design' a core brand value... it took the return of Steve Jobs who understood the importance of design to get them back on track and look where they are now!

Look how even Microsoft and Samsung have learned from the interface and product design of Apple only finally catching up in recent years

You have actually identified the exact reason why I come to this community from the design angle and what this thread is focused on achieving and the quote below speaks for itself in that give a DEV a clear defined 'end' vision and the carrot of the brand already looking like a quality product will give the project it's own momentum towards that vision.

He [Jobs] redefined the problem as: make one that's beautiful. And that probably drove the developers harder than any carrot or stick could.

The crystalising of the 'skin' and creating something that is bespoke, real and beautiful gives a clarified vision to both the DEV and the end user. Design is an integral part of creating the brand and the brand's success. I am looking for a DEV who recognises this and is inspired by the brands I am developing. Of course there will be many onlookers, watchers and haters who are sceptical like yourself of my motives and the value I bring but my mission is simply to find a DEV who is inspired to take the projects on.

Granted, at the moment they are just 'skins' but like a coder I bring a lifetime of experience to create each one of these skins so I'm not just knocking out new coins and ideas with clip art. If you look at current ALT coins on the market there are many that are achieving their moment of success and their visual brands are no more than crap clip art. When the big players come in to the market these brands will be eclipsed and die off unless they get a good ID 'makeover' which I predict many of them will do as they become more successful.

Many people in this country think of taste as something elusive, or even frivolous. It is neither. To drive design, a manager must be the most demanding user of a company's products. And if you have really good taste, you can, as Steve Jobs does, make satisfying you the kind of problem that good people like to work on.

[nahallacman]

I think a problem here may be targeting. Many people who are knowledgeable about coins care very little for the packaging. The real limit to getting a coin into real circulation is getting to the knowledgeable people first. They inform other people and get the idea out there because it interests them. There is no simple package to shine up like a phone. There is a UI to shine up but that won't be enough to sell knowledgeable people on your product. Once it has gained a moderate audience it can be the thing that drives it to the more uninformed users but there is no easy channel to get it to them. Companies like Apple already had products and funds available. They were going to make more products anyways, they just made those products better and gave it a unified brand name (iPhone, iPad, iCloud, ect.). You have no existing channels of distribution or income in this field. That is a very large barrier to overcome. When Apple started it was because they had a unique, competitively priced product to ride on (Apple I). I also agree that you should try to start at another product that already has a following to try and overcome these problems or find a way to overcome these barriers to beginning your product.

[funkycoin]

I think a problem here may be targeting. Many people who are knowledgeable about coins care very little for the packaging

This is a factor today but as the market grows a branding will become more important, It is no coincidence that companies spend billions a year on brand consultancy and let specialist companies handle branding and logo development. Large companies will have abook produced for them which will outline all the rules of their corporate ID. We take design for granted but there is a science and art to communicating your brand through design and media.

[nahallacman]

I think a problem here may be targeting. Many people who are knowledgeable about coins care very little for the packaging

This is a factor today but as the market grows a branding will become more important, It is no coincidence that companies spend billions a year on brand consultancy and let specialist companies handle branding and logo development. Large companies will have abook produced for them which will outline all the rules of their corporate ID. We take design for granted but there is a science and art to communicating your brand through design and media.

I agree that the image is important for widespread adoption but how will you reach that point without getting through the necessary hoops of getting the information to them?

[markm]

The genius devs have already built the genius code under the hood, but are you capable of wrapping it in brands and skins and marketing campaigns that will make it catch on?

You don't need a developer, you just need a user interface editor, which, conveniently for you, QT supposedly has.

I have no idea what exactly it does, but presumably it aims at being like CSS is supposed to be on the web, an abstraction layer that lets graphic designers screw around with the cosmetics without needing programmers, code rewrites, and stuff like that?

A skinning system, or something like that?

If so you should be able to basically proceed through all the most well-established coins buying up some then releasing an awesome new theme, skin, logo and so on and so on, and make fortunes.

I'd still suggest that you start with Bitcoin, because if you double the value of a puny alt you make a few people a few thousand bucks richer maybe, but if you double the value of bitcoins you make lots of people a heck of a lot richer. So the scale of gratitude possible seems like it would maybe be a heck of a lot higher with Bitcoin.

Its about disposable income. Seems like a lot of folks playing with alts don't have any disposable income, and you'd have to multiply the value of their alt some massive number of times before they'd begin to come close to having some disposable income.

But with BItcoin tons of people have lots of disposable income and many many many more will have even if the value only doubles.

Even just doubling the value of Bitcoin would likely create many people who would be able to afford to pay the 3 bitcoins you want for branding an alt for hundreds upon hundreds of alts if proliferating umpteen alts is actually a good thing to do.

(I mean one person paying for umpteen brandings, not oodles of people able to afford one branding each.)

For example if you release a super-attractive branding of Bitcoin that doubles the value of bitcoins I could afford to buy a branding for each of the child chains that one merged mines alongside it. (That is to say, NaMeCoin, DeVCoin, GRouPcoin, IXCoin, I0Coin, CoiLedCoin and GeistGeld.)

-MarkM-

EDITED: Listed the child chains that are merged mined alongside Bitcoin.

[funkycoin]

I'd still suggest that you start with Bitcoin, because if you double the value of a puny alt you make a few people a few thousand bucks richer maybe, but if you double the value of bitcoins you make lots of people a heck of a lot richer. So the scale of gratitude possible seems like it would maybe be a heck of a lot higher with Bitcoin.

If I had been on top of Bitcoin from the start I possibly could have done, but Bitcoin already has a very strong and slick brand ID. I've actually just started another thread which is more focused on advice than finding a DEV partner and I talk about the success of the Bitcoin 'B' there'

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=390797.0

Of course, if invited to do so I would gladly have a stab but there is already a great bitcoin 'coin' image [see below] that I see is used in many places including Ebay.
Bitcoin is in my opinion spot on with its branding.

This is a great photo and if I had the money myself I'd do samples of my coins then photograph them for that additional authentic feel, as this is a photo of a physical bitcoin it has that real look with scratches and imperfections which I love adding to the authenticity and strength of the brand/image.

http://thestatelessman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/bitcoin-logo-3d.jpg


Steve

[CaptEmulation]

This is like offering a yellow Dollar bill which can only be used to by bananas.  Why would I want to use that instead of a regular dollar bill?

As crypto becomes more mainstream and general public adopt it dollar bills are going to eventually have little or no value, it will be the successful trusted crypto brands that will be successful.

OK fair enough, everyone here hates fiat.  But what are you offering here over bitcoin?  Why should someone choose to direct hashing power at your blockchains?  What value is provided by a "Stockcoin" to buy stocks and a "JPYCoin" to buy yen?  How will these be more successful than just bitcoin?  What is your plan for "colored addresses" and the related contracting protocol being developed in bitcoin?  All I see here is some websites and some logos-- but what, if any, markets are you creating?  You do realize that do any of this, not only do you need a "genius programmer"-- you need a team of them and a few hundred mil to create, secure and back the markets it seems you want to create.

So let's take JPYcoin as an example.  How would this be pegged in any way to the JPY market?  Crytocurrencies have fixed inflation, not so for fiat.  Are you going to put up the millions of yen to establish a market?  Is your plan is to pay people in yen who mine your JPYcoin and then, where does your profit come in?  I'm really at a complete and total loss on how you expect this to work.  Is your plan for a P2P distributed market using colored addresses and the latest unreleased bitcoin contract protocol?  Or do you plan a funded central exchange?

It's one thing to make a joke/fun coin like funkycoin/bombcoin/dogecoin (in which case why are you hiring a genius?)-- but an entirely different matter to actually create a real functioning financial market using a brand new cryptocurrency.  My suggestion is to take a look at what is being developed around colored coins, and put your noggin' thinking about how you can build on top of bitcoin to create these markets. 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106373.0
https://bitcoil.co.il/BitcoinX.pdf
http://coloredcoins.org/