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March 05, 2011, 08:41:25 AM
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I don't really think it's very important to spruce up the design of the sites. They are nice and simple, which is a good thing Smiley

I would however suggest you make it clear that there's an essentially "opposite" service available on each site. Maybe add something like a tab bar at the top of the sites where we can switch between CoinPal and CoinCard (or some other design that makes sense). Just so you're sure everyone realizes there are two similar-but-different services available.

Thanks for the excellent service Smiley
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March 05, 2011, 03:38:32 PM
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I think being able to make paypal payments to other people would be a very big thing!
but i don't use paypal myself, so i don't know whats the established way merchants match incoming transactions - if its automated you most likely have to register your paypal email there?

being a web dev, i prefer simple/functional layouts myself, but i often experience 'novice' users being alienated by those 'little' things Wink

also, just out of curiosity, why did you make an extra site for this and not add it as features to the existing coinpal?

last but not least, i've got ~100 BTC through coinpal (using friend/family paypals) and everything went fine; thank you! Smiley

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March 05, 2011, 04:53:27 PM
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but i often experience 'novice' users being alienated by those 'little' things Wink

Yes, and that's the point. First typical question of newcomer is "where I can buy/sell small amount of BTC for test?". So service like coinpal/coincard is very important in the first impression. Two people said me "Are you kidding, this?" when I pointed them to the coinpal Smiley.

As I wish to Bitcoin to be successfull and go to mainstream, I really care about those 'little things', because they SELL. But once again, mndrix is doing great job.

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March 07, 2011, 02:46:46 PM
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I would however suggest you make it clear that there's an essentially "opposite" service available on each site. Maybe add something like a tab bar at the top of the sites where we can switch between CoinPal and CoinCard (or some other design that makes sense). Just so you're sure everyone realizes there are two similar-but-different services available.

Good idea.  I've added it to my list of issues.  The tabbed interface is a good suggestion for once the appearance is spruced up a bit.
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March 07, 2011, 02:51:18 PM
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also, just out of curiosity, why did you make an extra site for this and not add it as features to the existing coinpal?

I wanted to see how much smaler CoinCard's code base would be compared to CoinPal since the former requires no fraud-prevention logic.  CoinCard is 1474 lines of Perl, CoinPal is 2234 lines.

I also wanted to create an artificial barrier between the two applications so that common Bitcoin logic could be factored out.  That's how Finance::MtGox was born.  I figured that would have added benefit to the community, in the long run.

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You're welcome Smiley
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March 07, 2011, 03:07:05 PM
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Yes, and that's the point. First typical question of newcomer is "where I can buy/sell small amount of BTC for test?". So service like coinpal/coincard is very important in the first impression. Two people said me "Are you kidding, this?" when I pointed them to the coinpal Smiley.

I agree with slush here.  One reason I started CoinPal was that I wanted an easy way for people to get started with Bitcoin.  If the appearance turns many away, the site isn't reaching its full potential.  Fortunately, plenty of us early adopters don't mind the appearance as much, so it lets the site start out slowly before adding polish to reach a wider audience.
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March 07, 2011, 03:15:24 PM
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 Amazon and New Egg might be possible.  

Any progress towards Amazon or New Egg GCs yet? I dont have an immediate need but could definitely see myself ordering them if they were available
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March 07, 2011, 03:24:57 PM
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amazon would be excellent !

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March 07, 2011, 03:29:15 PM
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oh god, Newegg Giftcards would be awesome... all computer geeks will buy that xD

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March 07, 2011, 04:19:41 PM
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I've been checking prices every couple days waiting to see a price I like to sell some more bitcoins. It would be nice if I could send you bitcoins and tell you the price I want and have your software send me the money when the price hits that number.

I'm sure something similar for coinpal would be nice too, where users could send you money via paypal and a bitcoin price they want, and get sent the bitcoins when the price hits their target.

An easier option might be to buy/sell credit on MtGox, if you aren't looking to become a full market and compete with them.

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March 07, 2011, 04:33:48 PM
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Funds are low again.  There haven't been many CoinPal orders to replenish PayPal funds, so I've transferred some additional funds from my bank.  They probably won't post until early next week.  (Fast transfers is one more reason I want Bitcoin to succeed).

I guess the funds aren't available yet? I see the following error:

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Please correct the errors below and resubmit.
Insufficient funds in our accounts. Try again later

Perhaps, since this isn't an error that I can correct, this message could be reworded? Better yet, the form might simply be replaced with a generic temporarily unavailable message?

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March 07, 2011, 04:39:14 PM
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Funds are low again.  There haven't been many CoinPal orders to replenish PayPal funds, so I've transferred some additional funds from my bank.  They probably won't post until early next week.  (Fast transfers is one more reason I want Bitcoin to succeed).

I guess the funds aren't available yet? I see the following error:

Code:
Please correct the errors below and resubmit.
Insufficient funds in our accounts. Try again later

Perhaps, since this isn't an error that I can correct, this message could be reworded? Better yet, the form might simply be replaced with a generic temporarily unavailable message?

Would it help if I went and used CoinPal? Cheesy
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March 07, 2011, 08:43:55 PM
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I just bought a Domino's card with coincard.  It worked perfectly!   Cool

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March 07, 2011, 09:53:35 PM
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I guess the funds aren't available yet? I see the following error:

Code:
Please correct the errors below and resubmit.
Insufficient funds in our accounts. Try again later

I'm guessing that the large funds deposit won't post until Tuesday or Wednesday

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Perhaps, since this isn't an error that I can correct, this message could be reworded? Better yet, the form might simply be replaced with a generic temporarily unavailable message?

Thanks for the suggestions.  When you see this error, you can try placing a smaller order.  You can also wait an hour or two for some CoinPal orders to come in (which replenishes my balances) and then try again.

It's on my list to show my balances on the home page, but it's non-trivial to implement
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March 07, 2011, 10:17:39 PM
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It's on my list to show my balances on the home page, but it's non-trivial to implement

Showing your balances is also a good way to attract hackers to try to break in!

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March 08, 2011, 01:46:07 AM
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Thanks for the suggestions.  When you see this error, you can try placing a smaller order.  You can also wait an hour or two for some CoinPal orders to come in (which replenishes my balances) and then try again.

I tried 1 USD. I'm not sure how much smaller I should try! Smiley Though it's working tonight.

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March 09, 2011, 06:16:28 PM
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CoinCard was down for a couple hours while I upgraded the server.  It's back now
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March 09, 2011, 06:48:52 PM
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It's on my list to show my balances on the home page, but it's non-trivial to implement

Showing your balances is also a good way to attract hackers to try to break in!

You can figure this out with trial and error anyway. It would just be a convenience for regular people. He doesn't need to show his entire assets, only what is currently available.

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March 09, 2011, 09:00:01 PM
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Oh btw, you can always ge a few more cents by using the USD instead of bitcoins.... just put you bitcoin amount, note down how much $$ that makes, and then try with the USD with 2~5 cents more... should give you back lower or the same bitcoin amount you put originally

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March 09, 2011, 11:26:57 PM
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Showing your balances is also a good way to attract hackers to try to break in!

Yes, that's a concern.

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