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December 28, 2013, 01:55:47 AM
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So I have been thinking about what would be a balanced resolution to what seems to be clearly false advertising of lying about October/November as possible shipping dates.

Basically what I am looking for is break even with the HF hardware (which the MPP was supposed to provide).

I think suing is a very bad option.  Only the lawyers make out in that scenario.

Here are some options that I think are balanced...
1) Customer has the option of canceling their order and having the same amount of BTC returned
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2) Customer has the option of receiving batch 1 order and after 90 days... any statistical gap between break even and the paid amount would be refunded (therefore achieving break even ~27 BTC)
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3) If HF can provide MPP quantities of the rev0/1 boards, customers can opt for immediate MPP and you take your chances at ROI... no other reparations will be available.

Of course at this point option 1 would I think be preferable for all parties involved since batch 1 customers are not receiving what we were initially expecting when we ordered.

I personally like option 2 as I think it is the most balanced.  For those who paid with bitcoin... after 90 days with the hardware if we have not achieved break-even, HF will refund the difference.  From my calculations if we get mining on 1/1/2014 and get MPP on 2/2/2013, that combo after 90 days will return about 25 BTC.  If they refund 27 BTC per order in April (90 days after initial hardware receipt), I will consider myself made whole.
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December 28, 2013, 04:49:17 AM
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Good luck with option #1. History has shown that BTC refunds for mining hardware are almost like the fable of a unicorn.

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December 28, 2013, 07:31:37 AM
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So avalon was not a mining company. And full BTC refunds where not promised several times and never denied.
Noted.

My anger against what is wrong in the Bitcoin community is productive:
Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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December 28, 2013, 08:13:53 AM
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Since it looks like HF is starting to communicate, I am going to table this discussion.

I still think the timely delivery of the MPP will be critical to Batch1 taking a small vs a very large loss for those who bought day 1 via BTC.

My guess is that they didn't want to communicate a time for MPP until they had a working board.  Looks like that has been handled.

Locking this thread for now.

Feel free for someone to open a similar if you feel it is worthwhile.
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