Was Satoshi from USA? (during 2009-2010)

[Tomcasper]

how can we believe when someone admits himself as Satoshi ?
does it happen before ?

1- when he gives valid proofs.
2- Yea, it happened before and it may happens in the future : I don't consider Wikipedia as a reliable source but it could contains some informations so take a look here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto#Craig_Steven_Wright

1. blockchain has been studied by thousands people, is his knowledge of blockchain still a valid proof !? 

2. as I guessed 
looks like I need more reading.

btw,, like OP stated. my question is also not so serious.

but thanks.

[OgNasty]

how can we believe when someone admits himself as Satoshi ?
does it happen before ?

We are all satoshi.

[greeklogos]

Don't know where you read that satoshi is from Japan?even if he has a Japanese's origin , he could be living in the USA right now.

Edit : removed links of images (it didn't appear rapidly)

The world is becoming board less more and more and now the Japanese name doesn't mean that the person is exactly from Japan. There is big Japanese community in the USA, so yes, it is pretty possible that Satosi is from the US.

[Tomcasper]

how can we believe when someone admits himself as Satoshi ?
does it happen before ?

We are all satoshi.

LoL 
there is a meme

SAmsung TOSHIba NAKAmichi MOTOrola 

[vit05]

It might also be that he worked outside his home, so he would not go to the forum because he was not on a secure enough computer, and it might look like he was sleeping.

Do weekend patterns indicate the same pattern during the week? He also sent thousands of emails to mailing lists. Did that pattern repeat in them?

[shahzadafzal]

Do weekend patterns indicate the same pattern during the week?

I'm glad you asked, yes I did calculate the posting pattern of Satoshi based on days, but did not find it interesting. Looks like he was full time working for Bitcoin only


https://i.imgur.com/HTDlzR3.png

He also sent thousands of emails to mailing lists. Did that pattern repeat in them?

Well I don't think there are thousands of email. Because here I see only 18 emails of Satoshi.
If any one have access or reference please share would love to analyze those too.

One of the interesting events I have been waiting for in this forum....

I'll probably release Satoshi's PMs and logged IPs addresses in ~8 years. This'd probably be of great historical interest. (Though he always used Tor, as far as I can tell.)

Looks like we have to wait few more years, now if Satoshi had been using Tor then at least he was using one specific location (GMT Zone) for forum postings at least

[Tendo]

I AM SATOSHI! 

[btc_angela]

Hmmmm. Very interesting, but I read somewhere the he deliberately changed his sleeping patterns to mislead everyone. And the used of the headline "The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks" probably another way to hide his real identity/location.

[hakka]

Thank you, shahzadafzal.
Your idea is interesting but it will be difficult to say Satoshi was from USA only from your chart.

I found 2 old posts that said Satoshi was from UK.
These posts can be useful to grasp Satoshi's features.
【Overview】
・NO.1 Satoshi was UK nightcrawler coder from viewpoints of UTC chart and British grammar of his posts.
・NO.2 Satoshi usually used UK format date "DAY/month/year"

NO.1

wrong.. im british so UTC is our time zone, and the graph on satoshi's profile matches mine. thescreen grab chart you posted is not UTC. here is UTC



as for the being asleep from 6pm till midnight makes no sense (american time), it fits no social standard of employed or unemployed.

so due to the post counts fiting in with a UK nightcrawler coder life style and his british grammar of his posts.. im sticking with british based

NO.2

more proof of british background

I integrated the hashmeter idea into the SVN version.  It displays khash/s in the left section of the status bar.

Two new log messages:
21/06/2010 01:23 hashmeter   2 CPUs    799 khash/s
21/06/2010 01:23 generated 50.00

grep your debug.log for "generated" to see what you've generated, and grep for "hashmeter" to see the performance.  On windows, use:
 findstr "hashmeter generated" "%appdata%\bitcoin\debug.log"

I have the hashmeter messages once an hour.  How often do you think it should be?

The automatic adjustment happened earlier today.

24/02/2010 0000000043b3e500000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

24/02/2010  3.78  +49%

I updated the first post.

14/02/2010 0000000065465700000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

2009        1.00
30/12/2009  1.18   +18%
11/01/2010  1.31   +11%
25/01/2010  1.34    +2%
04/02/2010  1.82   +36%
14/02/2010  2.53   +39%

Another big jump in difficulty yesterday from 1.82 times to 2.53 times, a 39% increase since 10 days ago.  It was 10 days apart not 14 because more nodes joined and generated the 2016 blocks in less time.

the date is in UK format
DAY/month/year

we know you americans love it as month/day/year, thus satoshi's computer is set as UK not US

It may be wise to search useful old posts other than those above.
One more thing. Most of Japanese study British English

[shahzadafzal]

・NO.1 Satoshi was UK nightcrawler coder from viewpoints of UTC chart and British grammar of his posts.

Looks like I have to revisit all my graphs again

Well if he was a night crawler here is UTC graph from 8AM to 7AM (0-23 actually confuses me).


https://i.imgur.com/cL1YWRe.png

Still this graph does fit to human nature....  which was my first assumption, work at day and sleep at night. Its ok night crawling works for some time but i don't think someone can make it habit for life.

・NO.2 Satoshi usually used UK format date "DAY/month/year"

Again that's i guess kind of standard we use on internet dd/mm/yyyy, so I guess this can't be a one solid proof too

[shahzadafzal]

Don't know where you read that satoshi is from Japan?even if he has a Japanese's origin , he could be living in the USA right now.

Who would have known Satoshi better than Hal Finney?

I was reading Hal's post and found this....

Today, Satoshi's true identity has become a mystery. But at the time, I thought I was dealing with a young man of Japanese ancestry who was very smart and sincere.

[cellard]

Don't know where you read that satoshi is from Japan?even if he has a Japanese's origin , he could be living in the USA right now.

Who would have known Satoshi better than Hal Finney?

I was reading Hal's post and found this....

Today, Satoshi's true identity has become a mystery. But at the time, I thought I was dealing with a young man of Japanese ancestry who was very smart and sincere.

Personally, I've always thought Hal Finney was satoshi, or very involved within the satoshi team if there ever was one, but in any case, as long as analyzing satoshi's posts in this forum in order to try to know where he is from based on the statistics, posting hours and so on... I think it's very misleading.

Consider the fact that most people that are into computers heavily, let alone someone very immersed in a revolutionary project, tend to have very fucked up sleeping schedules. This is often seen in genius people of all fields, from science, math, to music, cinema etc. People immersed in their projects often neglect their own health, and this includes your sleep. So no.. I don't think it's very accurate saying he was from the US or anywhere else because of that.

[Tomcasper]

Don't know where you read that satoshi is from Japan?even if he has a Japanese's origin , he could be living in the USA right now.

Who would have known Satoshi better than Hal Finney?

I was reading Hal's post and found this....

Today, Satoshi's true identity has become a mystery. But at the time, I thought I was dealing with a young man of Japanese ancestry who was very smart and sincere.

Personally, I've always thought Hal Finney was satoshi, or very involved within the satoshi team if there ever was one, but in any case, as long as analyzing satoshi's posts in this forum in order to try to know where he is from based on the statistics, posting hours and so on... I think it's very misleading.

Consider the fact that most people that are into computers heavily, let alone someone very immersed in a revolutionary project, tend to have very fucked up sleeping schedules. This is often seen in genius people of all fields, from science, math, to music, cinema etc. People immersed in their projects often neglect their own health, and this includes your sleep. So no.. I don't think it's very accurate saying he was from the US or anywhere else because of that.

Agree..
and that statistics is close a teamwork rather than a person. teamwork must have a time schedule, while a person who is into computers heavily has no sleeping schedule. so,
Satoshi Nakamoto is an account used by a person in a team.

[shahzadafzal]

Personally, I've always thought Hal Finney was satoshi

You know I have read this so many times people still think Hal Finney was Satoshi. But trust me I don't think some one on a death bed will lie. He he was diagnosed of of ALS in 2009, he knew he is going to die soon. He said this in his post too

But my life expectancy is limited

So if he was Satoshi there was no point in hiding it anymore, so I really don't think he was Satoshi.  

as long as analyzing satoshi's posts in this forum in order to try to know where he is from based on the statistics, posting hours and so on... I think it's very misleading.

Yes of course, it's just a speculation not facts. He must have been using Tor as Theymos stated, so there is no point analyzing the post timings or IPs.

[xtraelv]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=37743.0

A long time ago I did a quick survey of Satoshi's posts just for fun and found that he seemed to be posting with a US time zone.

Here is the graph (X axis are hours, Y axis is posts, times are GMT):



And the data itself:

[[0,32],[1,23],[2,15],[3,10],[4,9],[5,3],[6,3],[7,0],[8,0],[9,1],[10,0],[11,0],[12,3],[13,5],[14,14],[15,18],[16,46],[17,65],[18,65],[19,43],[20,42],[21,55],[22,46],[23,42]]

As you can see the night dip is between 6-11am GMT, so assuming this person sleeps at night, he should live in GMT-5 to GMT-7 somewhere which is the Americas.

Anyway, this was just a quick fun thing I did way back when. The reason I'm posting it now is that somebody dug up my IRC logs where I promised that I'd post it on the forums.

Stefan Thomas did a symilar experiment in 2011 and concluded that if Satoshi Nakamoto is a single individual with conventional sleeping habits, it suggests he resided in a region using the UTC−05:00 or UTC−06:00 time offset. This includes the parts of North America that fall within the Eastern Time Zone and Central Time Zone, as well as parts of Central America, the Caribbean and South America. It is a large and populated area.

It also gives some credibility to the theory that Hal Finney was Satoshi. I've just been researching Satoshi and stumbled onto your post.

Satoshi was also a very careful person that was very concerned about privacy so he may have deliberately posted between certain times or if he was from Japan it wouldn't have been unusual for him to be working throughout the weekends. The times he didn't post could also indicate he was working at that time. Perhaps as a University lecturer.

After his first post, in which he used American spelling, he switched to English spelling for all the rest.


I think you proved Theymos rarely sleeps.  

Let suppose these two things

- He was human, not a bot not an alien

Are you sure ?  



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