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August 26, 2011, 05:07:47 PM
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I agree that more positive PR needs to be done with bitcoin. I think although the bitcoin community is very strong, as of now it seems like most people that are involved are either techies or financial professionals. What we need is a stronger PR and marketing presence.

I'm currently working on a user friendly bitcoin merchant directory at btcmerchants.com which will (hopefully) promote businesses accepting bitcoin as a form of payment and I'd like to offer up any help needed in this PR campaign.


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August 26, 2011, 05:25:28 PM
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August 26, 2011, 07:37:16 PM
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I was just watching Jeff Garzik's presentation at the Bitconf (really? Bitcon? was someone asleep?), and he mentioned the need for a PR effort to bring a higher level of bitcoin education to the general public.

As I happen to agree, and have a background in communication and journalism, it resonates with me.

So I thought we might start a discussion as to what this Bitcoin PR would look and feel like. Here are some ideas:

- A clearing house for expertise on the different aspects of bitcoin, that puts out regular press releases to media outlets, then guides the incoming queries through the appropriate channels.

- A repository of all previous coverage of bitcoin in the media.

- A proactive effort to contact levels of government, banking, trading, law enforcement, etc... towards showing that bitcoin, while truly revolutionary as a concept, isn't necessarily "dangerous" and can in fact be complementary to already existing policies, systems and paradigms.

- Perhaps some inroads into academia, to see if some bright students want to make bitcoin the object of their dissertation, or to channel the knowledgable people to give talks at universities and colleges.

Any other ideas? A name would be great... too bad Bitcoin Consultancy is already taken.

Or, this PR effort could be rolled into an existing entity, like Bitcoin Consultancy.

The key is that it has to be done professionally. So far, most attempts at bringing bitcoin to the public at large have had a certain whiff of amateurishness to them. We need to raise the bar a tad.

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August 27, 2011, 01:52:44 AM
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- A proactive effort to contact levels of government, banking, trading, law enforcement, etc... towards showing that bitcoin, while truly revolutionary as a concept, isn't necessarily "dangerous" and can in fact be complementary to already existing policies, systems and paradigms.

This one's essential to legitimising Bitcoin but it's also a bit tricky at the moment with so many Bitcoin associated services operating in legal grey areas.

Perhaps the issue of Bitcoin services - and especially the exchanges - moving towards compliance with local regulations could be put on the agenda for the Melbourne conference.    I think that at least 3 exchanges will be represented at that conference, so it would be a good opportunity to get an idea of whether they're willing to take the kind of steps which government, banking, law enforcement would view in a positive light or whether they wish to continue operating in grey areas which are likely to attract negative attention from those entities.

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August 27, 2011, 04:05:34 AM
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people that are involved are either techies or financial professionals.

and libertarians.

Ask five different Bitcoiners why they are interested in the currency and you might get five different answers.  That's good having more than one core selling point but that's also bad because that means it gets harder to come up with a single message to deliver.

There are things that nearly all have in common -- a distaste for banks.  Using Bitcoin to marginalize banks to where they become an insignificant part of our lives is something we would all love to see happen.  I wouldn't know where to even start in trying to communicate that message though.

This is a relevant thread: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=12842.0

Rick Falvinge has some great posts exploring the "why"s of Bitcoin.  His series starts here: http://falkvinge.net/2011/06/16/bitcoins-four-drivers-part-one-unlawful-trade 

Getting Bitcoin used as a payment method can happen after grass roots interest from consumers, but more likely it will get traction when merchants, game developers and ecommerce organizations start to see how bitcoin brings benefits over alternatives (no chargebacks, significantly lower transaction fees and nearly instantaneous "settlement").

Perhaps directing some more attention toward identifying the merchants that should be using bitcoin and convincing them to consider it is the most beneficial (to bitcoin) first step for this PR initiative?

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August 27, 2011, 04:45:39 AM
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people that are involved are either techies or financial professionals.

and libertarians.

Ask five different Bitcoiners why they are interested in the currency and you might get five different answers.  That's good having more than one core selling point but that's also bad because that means it gets harder to come up with a single message to deliver.

There are things that nearly all have in common -- a distaste for banks.  Using Bitcoin to marginalize banks to where they become an insignificant part of our lives is something we would all love to see happen.  I wouldn't know where to even start in trying to communicate that message though.

This is a relevant thread: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=12842.0

Rick Falvinge has some great posts exploring the "why"s of Bitcoin.  His series starts here: http://falkvinge.net/2011/06/16/bitcoins-four-drivers-part-one-unlawful-trade 

Getting Bitcoin used as a payment method can happen after grass roots interest from consumers, but more likely it will get traction when merchants, game developers and ecommerce organizations start to see how bitcoin brings benefits over alternatives (no chargebacks, significantly lower transaction fees and nearly instantaneous "settlement").

Perhaps directing some more attention toward identifying the merchants that should be using bitcoin and convincing them to consider it is the most beneficial (to bitcoin) first step for this PR initiative?

Yep! Watch it again, everybody: http://www.ted.com/talks/simon_sinek_how_great_leaders_inspire_action.html


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August 27, 2011, 07:59:52 AM
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We need a TED talk.

It would be amazing PR directed at the perfect demographic. Best of all: it would be free.

Anyone have any idea how to make this happen?

A TED talk would be fantastic... a TED talk by Bruce would be a nightmare.

No offence, Bruce, I love you and what you're trying to do for Bitcoin, but we need less of an evangelist and more of a charmer. Actually, I'm thinking Rick Falvinge would be ideal for TED.

I beg to differ on Rick Falvinge being ideal for a TED talk. He's brilliant on the facts but his delivery leaves a lot to be desired. The best TED talks tend to be insightful, informative and inspirational. Rick inspires me to want to go to sleep... and I'm a bitcoin enthusiast.

His image is a little sloppy too. If he's going to wear a business suit and tie, then he could stand to look a bit sharper; otherwise, he could try going for the sartorial style of Steve Jobs or Peter Thiel - different (in the normally staid business/commercial field) but not threatening - both men who know how to present new, innovative ideas, and ideas that went on to break new frontiers no less.

So, while Falvinge is a great resource, for a successful TED talk you need someone with a balance of oratory and presentation skills combined with knowledge. Sadly, Falvinge aint it.

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August 27, 2011, 04:11:08 PM
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- A clearing house for expertise on the different aspects of bitcoin, that puts out regular press releases to media outlets, then guides the incoming queries through the appropriate channels.

- A repository of all previous coverage of bitcoin in the media.

- A proactive effort to contact levels of government, banking, trading, law enforcement, etc... towards showing that bitcoin, while truly revolutionary as a concept, isn't necessarily "dangerous" and can in fact be complementary to already existing policies, systems and paradigms.

- Perhaps some inroads into academia, to see if some bright students want to make bitcoin the object of their dissertation, or to channel the knowledgable people to give talks at universities and colleges.

Good thread. I think that each country needs to get initiatives like this going. Bitcoin enthusiasts in Germany/Sweden/Whatever have to get together to contact the German/Swedish/Whatever government. The media in each country should have somewhere to turn to for expertise etc.

Personally I'll try to get some sort of community/forum going on www.bitcoin.se soon. Hopefully some of the people visiting will be interested in PR work.

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August 27, 2011, 10:43:39 PM
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So, while Falvinge is a great resource, for a successful TED talk you need someone with a balance of oratory and presentation skills combined with knowledge. Sadly, Falvinge aint it.

While I can understand where you're coming from, some of the interviews lately have been a bit monotonic, Rick actually does great presentations. He did one at Reboot11 about the Pirate Party that was very well received.

http://video.reboot.dk/video/510337/pirates-go-to-parliament-by (from 2009)

(Reboot is an unconference happening more than a carefully planned TED conference which shows though)


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August 28, 2011, 12:05:02 AM
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I was just watching Jeff Garzik's presentation at the Bitconf (really? Bitcon? was someone asleep?), and he mentioned the need for a PR effort to bring a higher level of bitcoin education to the general public.

As I happen to agree, and have a background in communication and journalism, it resonates with me.


Great that you started this thread. Let's work together. I will sent back some feedback and ideas soon.

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August 28, 2011, 12:08:27 AM
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I'll post again in this thread when the resources site is up. We will be giving away all our content for free.

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August 28, 2011, 12:23:10 AM
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BTW what is the BTC best case scenerio? I think this needs to be worked out. Having just another form of currency doesn't do it for most people. It's simply reinventing the wheel.

Also decentralization is too abstract for most sheeple.

I think the best selling point is the fact the BTC is the electronic equivalent of cash. How that is great in a practical way needs to be built upon.
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August 28, 2011, 03:24:27 AM
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BTW what is the BTC best case scenerio? I think this needs to be worked out. Having just another form of currency doesn't do it for most people. It's simply reinventing the wheel.

Also decentralization is too abstract for most sheeple.

I think the best selling point is the fact the BTC is the electronic equivalent of cash. How that is great in a practical way needs to be built upon.

Always keep in mind Simon Sinek's Golden Circle.



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August 28, 2011, 09:20:28 AM
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So, while Falvinge is a great resource, for a successful TED talk you need someone with a balance of oratory and presentation skills combined with knowledge. Sadly, Falvinge aint it.

While I can understand where you're coming from, some of the interviews lately have been a bit monotonic, Rick actually does great presentations. He did one at Reboot11 about the Pirate Party that was very well received.

http://video.reboot.dk/video/510337/pirates-go-to-parliament-by (from 2009)

(Reboot is an unconference happening more than a carefully planned TED conference which shows though)




Ah, I take it back! He does have some life in him after all.

In the first link possted in this thread where he is Max Keiser's guest he looks a little constipated and lacking in sparkle. This, on the other hand, shows him to have humour and a depth of character rather than just a robotic talking head. And yes, TED Talks would certainly make this same presentation look more appealing, so the fact that he still comes across OK here drives your point home all the more.

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August 28, 2011, 11:02:42 AM
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Ok, so let me try to advance this idea a little bit. Some of us are already starting to move forward and we could use help from people here.

If you have a background in PR, advertising, writing, media, website development or academia, and want to participate, feel free to send me a private message, let me know what your strong suit is (what you feel you might be able to contribute) and I'll try to keep you in the loop.

Cheers,
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