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Question: Is bitcoin being manipulated and if so, how?  (Voting closed: June 06, 2018, 11:35:13 AM)
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May 17, 2018, 11:35:13 AM
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If you've been around the cryptosphere, you've probably heard both camps on whether BTC is manipulated. Many say it's the "weak hands", others blame large institutions, while other's say it's all that MT GOX guy doing another dump? What do you think? Is it manipulated? Please include your reasoning on the matter. 
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May 17, 2018, 11:56:56 AM
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For the pin bit in the manipulation it could happen, and I think that we can see it when the price bubble happens and quickly the price can go up and back down again.
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May 17, 2018, 12:04:47 PM
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I think certain large investors are trying to manipulate the prices indeed, but whether it's really happening right now and it's successful, that is hard for me to tell. I think it's possible though

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May 17, 2018, 12:11:50 PM
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manipulations do exist, they are not as severe and controlling as some people exaggerate them to be like and also they are not as small and non existent as some others like to over correct! it is somewhere in the middle.
the bitcoin market is still pretty small and there are many with a lot of money at hand who are getting richer each time bitcoin swings up and down. they + the media have been driving the market the way they like it to for some time now. it is not a full control like what you see in altcoins pump and dumps but it is enough to make price take big hits or have big rises.

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May 17, 2018, 12:32:51 PM
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If you've been around the cryptosphere, you've probably heard both camps on whether BTC is manipulated. Many say it's the "weak hands", others blame large institutions, while other's say it's all that MT GOX guy doing another dump? What do you think? Is it manipulated? Please include your reasoning on the matter. 

Those issues will not occur if it is not true and all of the things you mentioned are some of the reasons why bitcoin dropped its value.  Weak hands, big whales, MT. Gox they are all interrelated. The big whales creating artificial dumps to create panic in the market so that those with weak hands will sell their coins. MT Gox is dumping their coins in large volume which is eating the buy support on the exchanges.
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May 17, 2018, 12:38:45 PM
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BTC cannot be manipulated by anyone even the team Satoshi Nakamoto, it depends if there is a super rich person that can buy a big amount of bitcoin and wants to play the price he can do it.

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May 17, 2018, 12:43:31 PM
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Yeah, I think so. Some rich people has a lot of bitcoins and they can influence on the market. And they can use news for regulation price. Like Chine every year - we will ban bitcoin.)

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May 17, 2018, 12:46:23 PM
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If you've been around the cryptosphere, you've probably heard both camps on whether BTC is manipulated. Many say it's the "weak hands", others blame large institutions, while other's say it's all that MT GOX guy doing another dump? What do you think? Is it manipulated? Please include your reasoning on the matter. 

In what I could see in the market price trend this couple months it really has the same trend which is a very controversial issue. If the manipulation of price really occur then this is very alarming issue.
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May 17, 2018, 12:47:38 PM
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Now that we have all these dirty skanky stock traders and bankers getting into cryptocurrency, market manipulation will only get worse. These @sshats have been doing the same cr@p in the stock markets for decades and now they will try the same cr@p on the crypto markets
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May 17, 2018, 12:50:18 PM
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No doubts that Bitcoin is large manipulated, but what do you expect with this low volume? One day, we will have surely bigger volume and will not be so easy to be manipulated like now, but until that we can just see the whales. Don't forget that also many big institution enter/will enter this market, also Nasdaq will launch their exchanger next month, so more volume is coming.
Mt.Gox fact it is bad, and they don't care about the market price, they just want some money back selling this large quantity of btc left.

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May 17, 2018, 12:52:02 PM
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manipulations do exist, they are not as severe and controlling as some people exaggerate them to be like and also they are not as small and non existent as some others like to over correct! it is somewhere in the middle.

Yeah, but there is something fishy about this....

Manipulation talks start only in bear season, nobody was talking about manipulation when bitcoin was hitting 20 000$.
And very few were talking about price manipulation while Willy was buying coins for MtGox and driving the price up, which btw, I think is the only price manipulation that was proved with facts beyond doubt.

The drama and the blame game always comes when the candles are glowing red in the charts.  Grin

BTC cannot be manipulated by anyone even the team Satoshi Nakamoto, it depends if there is a super rich person that can buy a big amount of bitcoin and wants to play the price he can do it.

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May 17, 2018, 12:55:46 PM
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The crypto/Bitcoin market is still very small compared to Stocks, Forex, and some other investment instruments. If we compare Bitcoin market with other traditional markets it has a very small ratio. In the recent times, the big players who were in Stocks and Forex, have also started owning investment stakes in crypto/bitcoin market. Manipulations and swings can easily be done by these groups/individuals. They create FUD and frustration for people to sell bitcoins at lower rates.

We should not have any second thoughts that manipulation does not happen... It does pretty much happen probably every day for bitcoin.


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May 17, 2018, 01:22:02 PM
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You would be naive to think that there are no hands behind the scenes that control the markets, be it your traditional stock markets or the unconventional cryptocurrency market. Long before this ecosystem is swarmed by newbies and laymen, traders and deep pockets are already fighting for control on this market. Nowadays, whales have amassed a huge sum of bitcoin (which definitely you wouldn't 'see' on plain sight) that helps them in their ventures, whether deliberately crashing the market or making it look like something's up. This happens on a daily basis albeit unnoticeable due to small movements.

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May 17, 2018, 01:41:24 PM
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Simple Bump/Dump strategies are a common example of asset price manipulation. It worked in real sector, I mean in stock market, and it works well in crypto market as well. Though, here comes the issue of the assets capitalisations. The greater cryptocurrency capitalisation, the less possible its manipulation. Bitcoin remainы rather steady to any kind of rapid influence.

However, in Telegram exist many chats with pumps which are just a artless kind of fraud. Because of low capitalisation, many chat admins making great money from followers, who buy pointed in chat overpriced cryptocurrency .
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May 17, 2018, 02:09:39 PM
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If you've been around the cryptosphere, you've probably heard both camps on whether BTC is manipulated. Many say it's the "weak hands", others blame large institutions, while other's say it's all that MT GOX guy doing another dump? What do you think? Is it manipulated? Please include your reasoning on the matter. 
I think my answer is yes. But not that totally manipulated, if you look at the market, the price of bitcoin will rise up when the demand is huge and some weak hands selling them off. There are people with huge bags of bitcoins hold it for long time even when they sell it, the price will go down but not that down. But still bitcoins price is still on the right track it has price corrections and hard forks. This proves that it can’t be totally manipulated.
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May 17, 2018, 02:16:15 PM
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I think certain large investors are trying to manipulate the prices indeed, but whether it's really happening right now and it's successful, that is hard for me to tell. I think it's possible though
manipulating bitcoin market prices I think it's a difficult thing because we know that bitcoin prices are unstable and unpredictable the certainty may be big demand than the salesperson can also make the bitcoin price go up that I think

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May 17, 2018, 02:22:34 PM
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If you've been around the cryptosphere, you've probably heard both camps on whether BTC is manipulated. Many say it's the "weak hands", others blame large institutions, while other's say it's all that MT GOX guy doing another dump? What do you think? Is it manipulated? Please include your reasoning on the matter. 

This trend is already understandable that there are large individual who are manipulating the price in order for them to gain from the price change. This is a very controversial issue that needed to be cure as soon as possible.

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May 17, 2018, 03:00:01 PM
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People who own large quantities of Bitcoins (aka the Whales) and People who own large quantities of FIAT (aka the BANKERS)
They manipiulate.

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May 17, 2018, 03:07:52 PM
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If you've been around the cryptosphere, you've probably heard both camps on whether BTC is manipulated. Many say it's the "weak hands", others blame large institutions, while other's say it's all that MT GOX guy doing another dump? What do you think? Is it manipulated? Please include your reasoning on the matter. 
There is indeed market manipulaton going on in bitcoin market and it's all being down by the big whales and others who want to buy bitcoins at a very low price, they want to do it with FUD and other fake news.

 
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May 17, 2018, 03:09:23 PM
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Yes. everything comes down to market supply - demand forces. many large institutions and affluent investors hold pretty good amount of bitcoins. they want to ensure that the market can be controlled when needed for their self interests. this happens in traditional market and will also continue in the crypto market.
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