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Question: Is bitcoin being manipulated and if so, how?  (Voting closed: June 06, 2018, 11:35:13 AM)
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June 19, 2018, 11:19:00 AM
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BTC cannot be manipulated by anyone even the team Satoshi Nakamoto, it depends if there is a super rich person that can buy a big amount of bitcoin and wants to play the price he can do it.

I am sorry mate but i need to disagree with you. Bitcoin and any other coins can be manipulated with what above mentions ealier. Big whales and those bigtime investors can manipulate the dumping and punping of the prices because their holdings can affect more on the market. As we all know that the prices will always be depends on the demands and if one of them withdraw their holdings then definitely the most affected is the block market.
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June 19, 2018, 11:22:54 AM
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Intersting to know that Bitcoin getting manipulated and around 91% people are saying that its true. But how come multi billion dollars coins can be manipulated so easily. There might be whales doing that but it will literally take group of whales altogether making the prices move up and down.
Bitcoin market if getting manipulated then I am pretty sure people like us who make small investment can get benefited if worked properly. For example, if they are manipulating it then surely they will dump at some time to have more coins and then later will pump it when they wanna profit. We just need to slip in during this period and be patient about it.  Cheesy

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June 19, 2018, 11:27:38 AM
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Intersting to know that Bitcoin getting manipulated and around 91% people are saying that its true. But how come multi billion dollars coins can be manipulated so easily. There might be whales doing that but it will literally take group of whales altogether making the prices move up and down.
Bitcoin market if getting manipulated then I am pretty sure people like us who make small investment can get benefited if worked properly. For example, if they are manipulating it then surely they will dump at some time to have more coins and then later will pump it when they wanna profit. We just need to slip in during this period and be patient about it.  Cheesy
Nothing surprising about this if you think about it. Bitcoin and altcoins are manipulated by whales on a regular basis and it is quite easy to notice that, but it is not necessarily bad as you stated since this is what contributes to the volatility of this cryptocurrency market. This can be beneficial to investors since it presents opportunities to earn huge profits in both the short term and the long term. This is why I don't usually mind these things and go about my business trying to sell my coins and tokens at the right moment. Its all about the timing in this market.

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June 19, 2018, 11:41:39 AM
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People who own large quantities of Bitcoins (aka the Whales) and People who own large quantities of FIAT (aka the BANKERS)
They manipiulate.
I also think so, when there are huge resources to easily manipulate prices.News is also easy to manipulate prices.

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June 19, 2018, 11:46:50 AM
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yes, of course this is a bitcoin market price manipulation, some people control the bitcoin market, like whales and also some people of the elite of china.

the weak just follow the flow, and survive, if it cannot survive then he will drown and lose.
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June 19, 2018, 11:50:31 AM
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People who own large quantities of Bitcoins (aka the Whales) and People who own large quantities of FIAT (aka the BANKERS)
They manipiulate.
I also think so, when there are huge resources to easily manipulate prices.News is also easy to manipulate prices.




there were lots of other factors that affects the value of bitcoin , not just whales, bankers , news, but also fuds and speculation as well as demand and supply can also make a change.

 the only way to survive a manipulation is to keep calm and think properly on whether you need to sell or buy. if  the manipulation is in a dip phase , then i think it is always a good idea to buy some coins as addition to your current holdings but if the manipulation is in pump phase , the youd better sell some of your coins in order to make a quick profit . although it is still recomended to wait a little more , so that the coins can fully achieved their peak price.
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June 19, 2018, 12:12:57 PM
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There's too many reasons to look for with these manipulations but if you don't want to stay independent just work for yourself by buying if the market goes down.
manipulations do exist
It really does not only to bitcoin market.
Crypto is not safe when we are talking about manipulations, it begins with banks and financial institutions then go further inside stocks and forex, same concepts with crytpo those who knows how to play with people's emotions can manipulate the trade and the value of every coins inside the market, we can't avoid them so better to learn how to play with them.
Each investment has it's own restriction and it depends to the investor on how long he's going through with the chosen investment. Going with what they are doing and taking advantage of it is what a small investor can do with this manipulation, you are going with their dip but they are also pumping it, you're together with them too.

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June 19, 2018, 12:16:05 PM
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why wouldn't it be ?? Considering the facts that there is no regulation and human greed, I would be surprised if it turned out that BTC is not being manipulated LOL

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June 19, 2018, 12:30:42 PM
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If you've been around the cryptosphere, you've probably heard both camps on whether BTC is manipulated. Many say it's the "weak hands", others blame large institutions, while other's say it's all that MT GOX guy doing another dump? What do you think? Is it manipulated? Please include your reasoning on the matter. 

I think this is because of the dumps of big investors, as well as fuds to compel also to sell "weak hands". We do not blame them because they are afraid of losing their investment. Hopefully, there will be no market manipulation for us to see again the good progress of bitcoins that the price goes up.

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June 19, 2018, 12:33:53 PM
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I agree that manipulation do occur in Bitcoin price but not extreme as people exaggerates, one must be super rich to be able to manipulate the price of Bitcoin.
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June 19, 2018, 12:55:43 PM
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I agree that manipulation do occur in Bitcoin price but not extreme as people exaggerates, one must be super rich to be able to manipulate the price of Bitcoin.

Newbie here, is G20's meeting also considered a market manipulation strategy just like the future's market? I heard about the future's market being a manipulation also.
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June 19, 2018, 01:20:48 PM
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Crypto is not safe when we are talking about manipulations, it begins with banks and financial institutions then go further inside stocks and forex, same concepts with crytpo those who knows how to play with people's emotions can manipulate the trade and the value of every coins inside the market, we can't avoid them so better to learn how to play with them.
The bitcoin market is easily manipulated, because the price depends on the demand there is not determined by anything. Actually this is a real risk we cannot hide, everyone will obviously know if he is careful. But the first factor to remember, cryptocurrency market manipulation will not be harmful if we have a target, I mean our target never leads to greed, we will stop if our targets have been achieved so sell what we have and return when the lowest price. If the market has a prolonged downtrend, we have a simple reason to stay here, where whales will come back when the price is low. Manipulation is useful for people who understand the cryptocurrency market.

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June 20, 2018, 04:04:08 AM
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Saya pikir manipulasi harga penting untuk menarik pembeli, dan ini akan terjadi pada semua jenis investasi, perjudian, atau perdagangan. Triknya sangat mudah, paus akan menghabiskan banyak uang untuk sesuatu yang mereka promosikan atau mereka jual dan ketika orang terpikat untuk bergabung, paus akan melompat keluar untuk mengambil keuntungan mereka....
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June 20, 2018, 05:36:09 AM
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If you've been around the cryptosphere, you've probably heard both camps on whether BTC is manipulated. Many say it's the "weak hands", others blame large institutions, while other's say it's all that MT GOX guy doing another dump? What do you think? Is it manipulated? Please include your reasoning on the matter. 
I also sometimes believe that bitcoin is controlled by market manipulation and there is some reason behind the price decline of the bitcoin and altcoin market but I never understand that how they took the price from ATH to this level but that would be interesting to know that how the people manipulate the price for their financial gains and then leave the market red. Also I don't believe that it is not a group of people as grouped movements are not possible in crypto world.
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June 20, 2018, 05:51:52 AM
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Price manipulation? Yes. But not completely manipulated. Those who manipulate that price have in fact created extraordinary market activity. The created activity denied that bitcoin etc. has any interest and will not die.
If you look at the market, bitcoin prices will rise when demand is huge and some weak hands sell it. There are people with big bitcoin bags that hold it for a long time even when they sell it, the price will go down but not down. But bitcoin prices are still on the right track with price corrections and hard forks. This proves that it can not be completely manipulated.
We just enjoy this market movement do not be rash and do not be afraid.
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June 20, 2018, 07:17:54 PM
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There is no any manipulation in bitcoin market because the market value only depends on the demand that they received  in the market. The supporters dictates what will be the price.
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June 20, 2018, 08:13:48 PM
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I'm damn near certain that it is happening as I personally have manipulated shitcoins in the past. Frankly the only reason that I did so with shitcoins is because those were simply the ones I could afford to do so with. And If I was willing and able to do so with them (I am not rich btw) then I'm certain that it is only a matter of means for someone to do so with the larger coins even BTC. Likely it is by no means all of those with the means but enough to make the difference.

With that said I'm not one to think that the recent price action can be completely attributed to these actors but to some extent it must be subject to their influence simply because it can be.

But thats like, my opinion man.
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June 20, 2018, 11:14:01 PM
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yes only big investor who have huge amount of btc  that types of or group of people partially can manipulate the market . but not all coin .
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June 20, 2018, 11:43:17 PM
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If you've been around the cryptosphere, you've probably heard both camps on whether BTC is manipulated. Many say it's the "weak hands", others blame large institutions, while other's say it's all that MT GOX guy doing another dump? What do you think? Is it manipulated? Please include your reasoning on the matter. 

It is manipulated by huge whales. This is the reason it goes down without any reason at all and withoutany news that makes some people panics sell.

Sometimes we can see that a news in other countries make the prices really goes down. When someone banned crypto in their country due to the potential threat or when the government make a sudden rule.

But what if the whales does not exist and  it is just the owner who really hold a lot and just manipulating a lot?

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June 21, 2018, 12:48:50 PM
 #100

In real circumstances trading is not pure zero sum game. Exchanges fees, mining, hacking attacks, hardforks and fraud make this market unpredictable by game theory models.
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