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[NINJA--]

No,    Ninja = Hollie    Me = NINJA--

[Mousepotato]

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.  I'm pretty sure I just said that Ninja isn't NINJA--

"Ninja" != "NINJA--"

^ Yup.  There it is right there.

[NINJA--]

I thought you were saying we're the same person.

[Maged]

I know this seems kind of silly at this point, but we need all the information we can get. Could you guys post proof of payment (screenshots are preferred) as well as all correspondence (preferably timestamped, along with the relevant time zone) with Hollie and Stefanie Andrea?

Also, here's all I can reveal at this time:
Hollie and Stefanie Andrea were indeed both under the control of the same person throughout this issue. However, there is evidence to suggest that Hollie might have been hacked. Additionally, Hollie's signature and Personal Text was not added by any of the administrators.

[indio007]

Well , I didn't get ripped off ... yet. So I don't know exactly what to give you... My payment status is completed. Stefanie used Paypal Mobile app. I'm  not exactly sure how that works. The account Jung Whitley is unverified but I could have swore it was verified when he/she first did the transaction. That was on August 25,2011

For the record, Paypal is a bunch of sneaky fucks and I don't put it past them to change data ex post facto. Someone hacked my girlfriends account and ordered something. The CC charged back the money and Paypal still tried to get paid for it despite the fact that whoever hacked her account never got what they illicitly purchased. It was scammer versus scammer and Paypal still tried to get paid. They where basically trying to take $1600 for themselves!

[NINJA--]

For the record, Paypal is a bunch of sneaky fucks

Agreed, paypal is just as bad as the scammers. They do whatever is in their interest. I hate that company with a passion.

[marks1976]

What information would you like I have all my pm's in my box for the transaction as well as paypal confirmation?

[ampirebus]

i have found evidence that NINJA-- is hollie. what an idiot... he didnt think we could look at all of his posts?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=37170.msg456510#msg456510


mods please drop the ban hammer on this guy and all of his ips already. (not that we dont know he wont come back from VPN/proxy)....

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=38451;sa=showPosts;start=60
he only posts on gambling/marketplace
he only has items for sale that cost very high prices,
he is seen talking to other known/suspected scam accounts
he is a newly registered account
he never uses or mentions escrow
he gives different information in each topic that clashes with information he posts in other topics.

i urge everyone to read all of his posts, all of hollies posts, and all of ninjas posts (without the --) and notice these things.

TL;DR DONT GET NEAR THIS SCAMMER WITH A230000000 foot pole

[edtks86]

^ how did you make the connection that Ninja-- = hollie in that thread?

[Chemicalbro]

Ninja-- is not Hollie/Ninja (no evidence at all of this anyway, unless an admin wants to comment based on ip addresses).

Stefanie Andrea is the purported and confirmed to be alter account of Hollie/Ninja by an admin. Maybe this person has other accounts as well, but Ninja-- is likely just another member.

[NINJA--]

i have found evidence that NINJA-- is hollie.

Your wrong. But thats OK, Im not mad at you. Im going to explain myself to you and this forum one time. After this Im going to ignore you.


> he only posts on gambling/marketplace
I like the marketplace. I posted in gambling once. That doesnt make me a criminal. I mostly trade on CL but Im limited to local sales. I trade on ebay sometimes but I hate the fees and I hate paypal even more. When I started mining I realized I could skip ebay and paypal so I started selling here for BTC. Thats why I post alot in the marketplace.


> he only has items for sale that cost very high prices.
You must have missed these.....
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=39802.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=39129.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=38988.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40145.0


> he is seen talking to other known/suspected scam accounts.
Several people talked to this person. Does that mean they are all guilty too or just me?


> he is a newly registered account.
Everybody has a new account when they first sign up. You have nothing with this one. Try again.


> he never uses or mentions escrow
And I NEVER will. BTC or cash pickup only.


> he gives different information in each topic that clashes with information he posts in other topics.
You didnt give us any examples.


My feedback so far.....
5870 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=37170.0;all
four 5830 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40331.0


The definition of speculation..... A guess: expressing an opinion based on incomplete evidence.

[Mousepotato]

Who is James Salinas?

[shakaru]

Ninja-- has sent me cards without any problem. Last one showed up YESTEDAY! On time. Diffrent ninja

[Maged]

I know this seems kind of silly at this point, but we need all the information we can get. Could you guys post proof of payment (screenshots are preferred) as well as all correspondence (preferably timestamped, along with the relevant time zone) with Hollie and Stefanie Andrea?

I still need this information.

[haploid23]

I know this seems kind of silly at this point, but we need all the information we can get. Could you guys post proof of payment (screenshots are preferred) as well as all correspondence (preferably timestamped, along with the relevant time zone) with Hollie and Stefanie Andrea?

hmm what's the point? not like much can be reversed. here's a screenshot of paypal payment from stefanie. several people sent money to this same paypal address that was supposedly Hollie's paypal account, so even without checking IPs and stuff, they are the same person.

[indio007]

I haven't seen any evidence that the Paypal Stefanie use (Jung Whitley) is the same Paypal account Hollie/Ninja accepted funds at. So far it's just hearsay. It could be true. I  just haven't seen any evidence.

[marks1976]

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Transaction Details
   
A claim has been filed against this transaction. Visit the Resolution Center for the latest information

      
Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID # 89L36459WX7447731)

Original Transaction
 Date    Type    Status    Details    Amount
 Aug 24, 2011   Payment For Yung Whitley    Completed    ...   -$205.00 USD

Related Transaction
 Date    Type    Status    Details    Amount
 Aug 24, 2011   Add Funds from a Bank Account    Completed    Details   $108.83 USD
Total:   $0.00 USD

Sent to:   
   Yung Whitley    (The recipient of this payment is Unverified)
Email:   
   z3rohourx@gmail.com

Amount sent:   
   -$205.00 USD
Fee amount:   
   $0.00 USD
Net amount:   
   -$205.00 USD

Date:   
   Aug 24, 2011
Time:   
   21:33:40 PDT
Status:    
   Completed

Subject:   
   
You have sent $205.00 USD to Yung Whitley with PayPal
Note:   
   

Funding Type:   
   PayPal Balance and Instant Transfer

This transaction is subject to a buyer Complaint, Chargeback or an Unauthorized Claim. Go to the Resolution Center to resolve this issue.



Here is Payment I sent to Hollie/Ninja.  I don't know how to screen capture or I would have.

[indio007]

At first glance mine was sent from Jung  Whitley not Yung Whitley. It is the identical email address though.


Here's the mail....

Jung Whitley sent you $205.00 USD

Hello xxxxxxxxxxx@gmail.com,

Just thought you'd like to know Jung Whitley sent you $205.00 USD.

Note from Jung Whitley:
Sent using the PayPal Mobile application

On further inspection the transaction is Yung Whitley!
It is quite a coincidence that the amounts are exactly the same 1 day apart.

Mobile Payment Received (Unique Transaction ID # 7R992151SW165325N)

Sent by:   
Yung Whitley    (The sender of this payment is Unverified)
Payment sent to:
    
************@gmail.com

Total amount:   
$205.00 USD
Fee amount:   
$0.00 USD
Net amount:   
$205.00 USD


Issue a refund
    
You have up to 60 days to refund the payment.

Date:   
Aug 25, 2011
Time:   
13:16:20 PDT
Status:   
Completed

Subject:   
Yung Whitley has just sent you $205.00 USD with PayPal
Note:   
Sent using the PayPal Mobile application
Payment type:   
Instant

I  seriously seems like info is changing over time though. I could have swore the first time he was verified and paid out of a bank account. I would have never done it otherwise because I had another buyer with BTC.

Paypal is probably trying to cover their ass after the complaint they got.

[haploid23]

At first glance mine was sent from Jung  Whitley not Yung Whitley. It is the identical email address though.

wtf? ok no.... this person is changing the paypal info and i'm 100% certain of this. when i first posted all this HERE, the "Jung Whitley" as well as all the other info was copy and pasted, so therefore it was not a typing error. and now i also noticed from my screenshot that the name is now changed to "Yung Whitley". so it's not just your mind playing tricks on you, this person is changing his/her info on paypal. just like how he changed his forum name from Ninja to Hollie.

[marks1976]

At first glance mine was sent from Jung  Whitley not Yung Whitley. It is the identical email address though.

wtf? ok no.... this person is changing the paypal info and i'm 100% certain of this. when i first posted all this HERE, the "Jung Whitley" as well as all the other info was copy and pasted, so therefore it was not a typing error. and now i also noticed from my screenshot that the name is now changed to "Yung Whitley". so it's not just your mind playing tricks on you, this person is changing his/her info on paypal. just like how he changed his forum name from Ninja to Hollie.

I agree with this statement.  It did say Jung Whitley before.  When I talked with Paypal they had this person already on radar for scams so I hope someone puts a stop to it.