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January 01, 2014, 08:00:11 PM |
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solracx (OP)
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January 01, 2014, 08:36:00 PM |
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more updates to the spec.
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solracx (OP)
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January 01, 2014, 08:37:39 PM |
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sighle
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January 01, 2014, 08:46:59 PM |
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Forgive me because I am not an economics major but I see some flaws with this proposal which you might be able to answer..
This coin is "based" on the US dollar(only because you claim it is) and you are saying that it will be "worth" 0.001 USD per coin.
First - where are you getting this made-up value?
Second - Let's say hypothetically that this coin succeeds down the road and miraculously the US government gets involved and says that it's a legitimate form of currency, suddenly you are *causing an immediate 0.1% inflation to the entire US dollar*. That means it won't happen.
Furthermore, there is currently 1.23 Trillion dollars in circulation in the US. Are you saying that you are releasing 1.230 Quadrillion coins right off the bat to match it?
If so, that would be the highest number of coins released in a single cryptocurrency and with the systems you have in place, there is no theoretical limit to how many will be created.
The system makes no sense, feels like a scam. Prove me wrong.
Edit: Adjusted values for accuracy.
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January 01, 2014, 09:28:11 PM |
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solracx (OP)
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January 01, 2014, 09:34:49 PM |
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Forgive me because I am not an economics major but I see some flaws with this proposal which you might be able to answer..
This coin is "based" on the US dollar(only because you claim it is) and you are saying that it will be "worth" 0.001 USD per coin.
First - where are you getting this made-up value?
Second - Let's say hypothetically that this coin succeeds down the road and miraculously the US government gets involved and says that it's a legitimate form of currency, suddenly you are *causing an immediate 0.1% inflation to the entire US dollar*. That means it won't happen.
Furthermore, there is currently 1.23 Trillion dollars in circulation in the US. Are you saying that you are releasing 1.230 Quadrillion coins right off the bat to match it?
If so, that would be the highest number of coins released in a single cryptocurrency and with the systems you have in place, there is no theoretical limit to how many will be created.
The system makes no sense, feels like a scam. Prove me wrong.
Edit: Adjusted values for accuracy.
We are merely following the prescription of the Federal Reserve in its Quantitative Easing strategy. So, we mirror the amount and scheduling of the minting of coins in our algorithm. The technique of following the patterns of a successful process is called a 'cargo cult' process. If 1.23 trillion USD is created by Quantitative Easing, the 1.3 billion (not quadrillion) coins will be created. The coin starts out at zero and does not presume that there are any existing coins in circulation. This would mirror the bankrupt state of the U.S. financial system at the time of TARP. Do you recognize parody when you see it?
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sighle
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January 01, 2014, 09:39:45 PM |
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Forgive me because I am not an economics major but I see some flaws with this proposal which you might be able to answer..
This coin is "based" on the US dollar(only because you claim it is) and you are saying that it will be "worth" 0.001 USD per coin.
First - where are you getting this made-up value?
Second - Let's say hypothetically that this coin succeeds down the road and miraculously the US government gets involved and says that it's a legitimate form of currency, suddenly you are *causing an immediate 0.1% inflation to the entire US dollar*. That means it won't happen.
Furthermore, there is currently 1.23 Trillion dollars in circulation in the US. Are you saying that you are releasing 1.230 Quadrillion coins right off the bat to match it?
If so, that would be the highest number of coins released in a single cryptocurrency and with the systems you have in place, there is no theoretical limit to how many will be created.
The system makes no sense, feels like a scam. Prove me wrong.
Edit: Adjusted values for accuracy.
We are merely following the prescription of the Federal Reserve in its Quantitative Easing strategy. So, we mirror the amount and scheduling of the minting of coins in our algorithm. The technique of following the patterns of a successful process is called a 'cargo cult' process. If 1.23 trillion USD is created by Quantitative Easing, the 1.3 billion (not quadrillion) coins will be created. The coin starts out at zero and does not presume that there are any existing coins in circulation. This would mirror the bankrupt state of the U.S. financial system at the time of TARP. Do you recognize parody when you see it? Alright, so in layman's terms this is basically a standard copy/paste coin release except the block volumes and intervals are based on the USD minting rate? Does this also mean that there will be a 1.3 billion coin premine/genesis block or will those coins not exist?
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[DOGE]: D6EBXikfCaPqcEJULsR2qzrLWyGBdYEwGv [LTC]: LbPrmVGKnVhn6G8FFGFdthPyP1tjFucZHu BTC: 1JpJ4tTM2ZCCLQf1jAnTmQbKMq7LGbrmQG
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solracx (OP)
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January 01, 2014, 09:43:56 PM |
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Forgive me because I am not an economics major but I see some flaws with this proposal which you might be able to answer..
This coin is "based" on the US dollar(only because you claim it is) and you are saying that it will be "worth" 0.001 USD per coin.
First - where are you getting this made-up value?
Second - Let's say hypothetically that this coin succeeds down the road and miraculously the US government gets involved and says that it's a legitimate form of currency, suddenly you are *causing an immediate 0.1% inflation to the entire US dollar*. That means it won't happen.
Furthermore, there is currently 1.23 Trillion dollars in circulation in the US. Are you saying that you are releasing 1.230 Quadrillion coins right off the bat to match it?
If so, that would be the highest number of coins released in a single cryptocurrency and with the systems you have in place, there is no theoretical limit to how many will be created.
The system makes no sense, feels like a scam. Prove me wrong.
Edit: Adjusted values for accuracy.
We are merely following the prescription of the Federal Reserve in its Quantitative Easing strategy. So, we mirror the amount and scheduling of the minting of coins in our algorithm. The technique of following the patterns of a successful process is called a 'cargo cult' process. If 1.23 trillion USD is created by Quantitative Easing, the 1.3 billion (not quadrillion) coins will be created. The coin starts out at zero and does not presume that there are any existing coins in circulation. This would mirror the bankrupt state of the U.S. financial system at the time of TARP. Do you recognize parody when you see it? Alright, so in layman's terms this is basically a standard copy/paste coin release except the block volumes and intervals are based on the USD minting rate? Does this also mean that there will be a 1.3 billion coin premine/genesis block or will those coins not exist? The block rate is based on the Federal Quantitative Easing schedule, compressed in time line by 1/5th of the original time and by 1/1000th of the original currency. As mentioned in the quote, the coin starts at zero.
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ZenithCoin - Sustainable Scrypt Based Crypto Currency
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solracx (OP)
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January 01, 2014, 09:47:37 PM |
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impressed with the initial response.
if you are familiar with what this coin is about..... then you know that this is going to be really huge!
it could make dogecoin look like.... well a dog.
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sighle
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January 01, 2014, 09:53:53 PM |
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Forgive me because I am not an economics major but I see some flaws with this proposal which you might be able to answer..
This coin is "based" on the US dollar(only because you claim it is) and you are saying that it will be "worth" 0.001 USD per coin.
First - where are you getting this made-up value?
Second - Let's say hypothetically that this coin succeeds down the road and miraculously the US government gets involved and says that it's a legitimate form of currency, suddenly you are *causing an immediate 0.1% inflation to the entire US dollar*. That means it won't happen.
Furthermore, there is currently 1.23 Trillion dollars in circulation in the US. Are you saying that you are releasing 1.230 Quadrillion coins right off the bat to match it?
If so, that would be the highest number of coins released in a single cryptocurrency and with the systems you have in place, there is no theoretical limit to how many will be created.
The system makes no sense, feels like a scam. Prove me wrong.
Edit: Adjusted values for accuracy.
We are merely following the prescription of the Federal Reserve in its Quantitative Easing strategy. So, we mirror the amount and scheduling of the minting of coins in our algorithm. The technique of following the patterns of a successful process is called a 'cargo cult' process. If 1.23 trillion USD is created by Quantitative Easing, the 1.3 billion (not quadrillion) coins will be created. The coin starts out at zero and does not presume that there are any existing coins in circulation. This would mirror the bankrupt state of the U.S. financial system at the time of TARP. Do you recognize parody when you see it? Alright, so in layman's terms this is basically a standard copy/paste coin release except the block volumes and intervals are based on the USD minting rate? Does this also mean that there will be a 1.3 billion coin premine/genesis block or will those coins not exist? The block rate is based on the Federal Quantitative Easing schedule, compressed in time line by 1/5th of the original time and by 1/1000th of the original currency. As mentioned in the quote, the coin starts at zero. I see. I appreciate your patience with my questions but I think it's important that these things be *approachable* if you want them to be popular. dogecoin is about as approachable as it gets and look how successful it's been(as far as exposure and activity). When you start throwing around financial jargon and terms that most people don't understand, things become less approachable and people won't get involved with things they don't understand. That's why I spoke earlier "in layman's terms" because you need to get to the core of what you're doing. So.. True or False; This coin is a scrypt copy/paste coin with block targets and sizes arbitrarily based on the USD "Quantative Easing" program. The value you've given it only serves as a way to decide block sizes, not necessarily the coin's actual value and the coin doesn't offer anything new on the technical side.
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[DOGE]: D6EBXikfCaPqcEJULsR2qzrLWyGBdYEwGv [LTC]: LbPrmVGKnVhn6G8FFGFdthPyP1tjFucZHu BTC: 1JpJ4tTM2ZCCLQf1jAnTmQbKMq7LGbrmQG
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solracx (OP)
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January 01, 2014, 10:00:52 PM |
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Forgive me because I am not an economics major but I see some flaws with this proposal which you might be able to answer..
This coin is "based" on the US dollar(only because you claim it is) and you are saying that it will be "worth" 0.001 USD per coin.
First - where are you getting this made-up value?
Second - Let's say hypothetically that this coin succeeds down the road and miraculously the US government gets involved and says that it's a legitimate form of currency, suddenly you are *causing an immediate 0.1% inflation to the entire US dollar*. That means it won't happen.
Furthermore, there is currently 1.23 Trillion dollars in circulation in the US. Are you saying that you are releasing 1.230 Quadrillion coins right off the bat to match it?
If so, that would be the highest number of coins released in a single cryptocurrency and with the systems you have in place, there is no theoretical limit to how many will be created.
The system makes no sense, feels like a scam. Prove me wrong.
Edit: Adjusted values for accuracy.
We are merely following the prescription of the Federal Reserve in its Quantitative Easing strategy. So, we mirror the amount and scheduling of the minting of coins in our algorithm. The technique of following the patterns of a successful process is called a 'cargo cult' process. If 1.23 trillion USD is created by Quantitative Easing, the 1.3 billion (not quadrillion) coins will be created. The coin starts out at zero and does not presume that there are any existing coins in circulation. This would mirror the bankrupt state of the U.S. financial system at the time of TARP. Do you recognize parody when you see it? Alright, so in layman's terms this is basically a standard copy/paste coin release except the block volumes and intervals are based on the USD minting rate? Does this also mean that there will be a 1.3 billion coin premine/genesis block or will those coins not exist? The block rate is based on the Federal Quantitative Easing schedule, compressed in time line by 1/5th of the original time and by 1/1000th of the original currency. As mentioned in the quote, the coin starts at zero. I see. I appreciate your patience with my questions but I think it's important that these things be *approachable* if you want them to be popular. dogecoin is about as approachable as it gets and look how successful it's been(as far as exposure and activity). When you start throwing around financial jargon and terms that most people don't understand, things become less approachable and people won't get involved with things they don't understand. That's why I spoke earlier "in layman's terms" because you need to get to the core of what you're doing. So.. True or False; This coin is a scrypt copy/paste coin with block targets and sizes arbitrarily based on the USD "Quantative Easing" program. The value you've given it only serves as a way to decide block sizes, not necessarily the coin's actual value and the coin doesn't offer anything new on the technical side. This coin is targeted to financial folks who understand the financial jargon. If you are looking for a coin for the masses, then maybe dogecoin is your coin. The coin has the typical innovation that most coins out there have. The primary difference is the use of the Federal Reserve's Quantitative Easing schedule. However, the coin is similar in spirit to 'DogeCoin' in that this coin is based on a meme (but one targeted for financial folks).
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sighle
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January 01, 2014, 10:07:12 PM |
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Forgive me because I am not an economics major but I see some flaws with this proposal which you might be able to answer..
This coin is "based" on the US dollar(only because you claim it is) and you are saying that it will be "worth" 0.001 USD per coin.
First - where are you getting this made-up value?
Second - Let's say hypothetically that this coin succeeds down the road and miraculously the US government gets involved and says that it's a legitimate form of currency, suddenly you are *causing an immediate 0.1% inflation to the entire US dollar*. That means it won't happen.
Furthermore, there is currently 1.23 Trillion dollars in circulation in the US. Are you saying that you are releasing 1.230 Quadrillion coins right off the bat to match it?
If so, that would be the highest number of coins released in a single cryptocurrency and with the systems you have in place, there is no theoretical limit to how many will be created.
The system makes no sense, feels like a scam. Prove me wrong.
Edit: Adjusted values for accuracy.
We are merely following the prescription of the Federal Reserve in its Quantitative Easing strategy. So, we mirror the amount and scheduling of the minting of coins in our algorithm. The technique of following the patterns of a successful process is called a 'cargo cult' process. If 1.23 trillion USD is created by Quantitative Easing, the 1.3 billion (not quadrillion) coins will be created. The coin starts out at zero and does not presume that there are any existing coins in circulation. This would mirror the bankrupt state of the U.S. financial system at the time of TARP. Do you recognize parody when you see it? Alright, so in layman's terms this is basically a standard copy/paste coin release except the block volumes and intervals are based on the USD minting rate? Does this also mean that there will be a 1.3 billion coin premine/genesis block or will those coins not exist? The block rate is based on the Federal Quantitative Easing schedule, compressed in time line by 1/5th of the original time and by 1/1000th of the original currency. As mentioned in the quote, the coin starts at zero. I see. I appreciate your patience with my questions but I think it's important that these things be *approachable* if you want them to be popular. dogecoin is about as approachable as it gets and look how successful it's been(as far as exposure and activity). When you start throwing around financial jargon and terms that most people don't understand, things become less approachable and people won't get involved with things they don't understand. That's why I spoke earlier "in layman's terms" because you need to get to the core of what you're doing. So.. True or False; This coin is a scrypt copy/paste coin with block targets and sizes arbitrarily based on the USD "Quantative Easing" program. The value you've given it only serves as a way to decide block sizes, not necessarily the coin's actual value and the coin doesn't offer anything new on the technical side. This coin is targeted to financial folks who understand the financial jargon. If you are looking for a coin for the masses, then maybe dogecoin is your coin. The coin has the typical innovation that most coins out there have. The primary difference is the use of the Federal Reserve's Quantitative Easing schedule. However, the coin is similar in spirit to 'DogeCoin' in that this coin is based on a meme (but one targeted for financial folks). And it's supposed to be huge? Ok. Good luck.
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eddilicious
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January 01, 2014, 11:10:12 PM |
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have you not heard libor is manipulated by PDs?
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solracx (OP)
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January 01, 2014, 11:59:20 PM |
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have you not heard libor is manipulated by PDs? yeah, I heard that, this is the historical (of course manipulated) rates. we try our best to replicate the original conditions. ;-)
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theomoplatapus
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January 02, 2014, 12:02:37 AM |
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So how is this different from Bernankoin?
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#Bitcoin
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solracx (OP)
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January 02, 2014, 12:21:25 AM |
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So how is this different from Bernankoin?
Bernanke isn't the Fed chairman anymore. So that coin is obsolete. ;-)
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procrypto
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January 02, 2014, 12:23:25 AM |
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Confused as to why you chose the ZH moniker.
This would be like launching a vegetarian restaurant that only served meat.
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solracx (OP)
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January 02, 2014, 12:36:04 AM |
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Confused as to why you chose the ZH moniker.
This would be like launching a vegetarian restaurant that only served meat.
Because, buying a crypto currency is like shorting the USD. If you buy BTC, are you long or short USD? You are short USD. So this is equivalent to shorting QE. The ZH moniker is surprisingly accurate.
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awais3344
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January 03, 2014, 06:27:53 AM |
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January 03, 2014, 06:44:20 AM |
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waiting for official announcement from zerohedge...
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