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May 21, 2018, 03:59:26 AM
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All those crappy exchanges with support issues made the choice to neglect their customers. They could have stopped new user registrations or deposits or otherwise slowed down their growth to allow themselves to catch up but they didn't.

Stopping accounts doesn't help anything. It just causes KYC problems and serious legal issues.

The problem is mainly on bitcointalk and other forums. Also ebay.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2590167.0

https://i.imgur.com/ENA2OEJ.png

Come on. If they can't solve "KYC problems" they shouldn't be in this business.

There are other ways to limit growth too. Don't list every shitcoin under the sun maybe.
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May 21, 2018, 04:22:04 AM
Last edit: May 22, 2018, 01:09:00 PM by xtraelv
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Come on. If they can't solve "KYC problems" they shouldn't be in this business.

There are other ways to limit growth too. Don't list every shitcoin under the sun maybe.

This is the scale of the problem on Bitcointalk. Nothing is done about it.
Not removing all the dodgy links to people selling exchange accounts is likely to eventually come to the attention of the likes of the SEC, FINSEC or symilar.



Each exchange has their own methods of KYC compliance. Someone buying a verified account with a $50K (or higher) daily limit can do a lot of laundry before getting caught. Especially straight after a big hack like Coincheck.

They delisted lots of coins. They increased the price for listing to discourage new listings. They reduced the amount of coins listed by 20%

API spam and malicious bot activity increased. That is currently being addressed.

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May 21, 2018, 11:38:10 AM
Last edit: May 21, 2018, 08:27:06 PM by mdayonliner
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I will talk a bit now. Last night I said I was working on a tutorial for Beginners & Help section. I am happy that I finished it.
[Eng: Tutorial] PGP Signature - Encrypt/Decrypt message - Fingerprint
I would appreciate everyone's feedback on the topic.
Anyway my head is clear now and I will talk a bit.


Hey - I may be wrong but I find it hard to believe someone randomly clicks someones "merit".
Out of the 19 cases this is the only one being discussed in a seperate thread to draw attention to it. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.0
In my entire time on Bitcointalk I had one message removed by a moderator. That was at the same time as this merit issue. The removed message didn't break the rules. It was politically motivated for calling out a scam. Co-incidence ? Maybe... or people are getting played.

I assist in removing between 1000 to 5000 spam/scam messages daily from a forum. I hate spammers & scammers with a vengance.

The reason is, you and your harsh attitude. Your childish activities, non-sense claims. Your problem is you notice less, understand less but talk more, you are a big mouth in my view.

This was my simple explanation: xtraelv: You are doing it wrong
We could have a better ending if you read it and acted accordingly instead, you have chosen a way to humiliate me for nothing!

Why these harsh words everywhere?
You might removed it but FYI I am closely watching all your activities since you have started accusing me with all these harsh words: scammers and blackmailers, hypocritical, blackmailed and scammed, blackmailing spam clown, extortion / blackmail, muppet. You have nothing to prove against me mate.



You post same shit everywhere, a new way of spamming...
There is nothing in the rules that says that your smerit decisions will be scrutinised by a blackmailing spam clown with some warped interpretation of the rules.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4019640.0  Scam Accusations > Serial feedback blackmailer - mdayonliner
http://archive.is/BHD1Y#selection-7507.0-7519.62

Do not be fooled by this blackmailing spam clown.

Full explaination and blackmail scam accusation against mdayonliner has been made here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4019640.0
http://archive.is/zU24W#selection-2299.0-2307.49

Do not be fooled by this blackmailing clown.

PM me if you have been blackmailed by him.

Blackmail scam accusation has been made here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4019640.0
http://archive.is/tE40M#selection-1283.0-1295.49

There is nothing that says that your decisions will be scrutinised by some blackmailing spam clown with some warped interpretation of the rules.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4019640.0  Scam Accusations > Serial feedback blackmailer - mdayonliner
http://archive.is/sU84r#selection-1987.0-1995.62

Just stop posting same shit on my topics. It's spamming.



Your ignorance
mdayonliner is endorsing giving merit away as "prizes" in a signature campaign and his signature is "for rent". Win $25 + 4 Merits every week!

oopsy! seems like you edited your comment!! Did i tell you yesterday that I was looking your activities? Here what you said originally.

mdayonliner is giving merit away as "prizes" in a signature campaign and his signature is "for rent". Win $25 + 4 Merits every week!
mdayonliner is giving merit away as "prizes" in a signature campaign and his signature is "for rent". How hypocritical is that ?

Did you even read this before accusing me not to PM you several times?  #
I wish I could but there are so many cases I am investigating that I have actually no time to PM individuals asking for explanations. That's why I always leave the RedTrust removal link on the tag I give.



You claim yourself a scam buster but I see your investigating skill is very poor. Scam busting is not your league. You better retire or find something else.

You can think it's malice all you want, but being a "scambuster" you should know that the people you are responding to here bust 100 spammers/scammers (accounts) a day at times by analyzing merit and crypto transactions, and they deserve it..
If you look, their are threads specifically analyzing all the merit ever transacted on this forum with all kinds of stats, charts, and graphs so yeah people analyze merit a heck of a lot and the reason you were singled out is your suspicious merit activity..

You said it mate. Thumbs up! @eddie13

And don't mix up me with my brother. We don't even live in the same country. I have declared on the trust page with a very good explanation that mahimonliner IS my younger brother. A better explanation is here I gave to marlboroza when we had conflict You tagged him for no reason. Remove his tag.

Account of my younger brother. The rules says to declare someones ALT with a neutral trust however I find it necessary to declare this account in public for two reasons:

1. The username contains same suffix: _____onliner
2. When merit system were introduced my younger brother sent 4 merits to my account to try how the new merit system works. (If someone consider this as merit abuse then IMO the justification will be wrong. It was a mistake but an innocent one. When merit system introduced on 25th Jan 2018, first few days were confusing for everyone. A major number of members were testing the merit system by sending it to each others. I received those 4 merits on the Jan 27th.)

Note: I used to be an affiliate marketer and influenced few people online because of my extraordinary performance in affiliate marketing. I noticed in several places they use their username with the suffix "onliner". My younger brother is one of them. In BitcoinTalk if anyone notice any username with a suffix of "onliner" then feel free to contact with me. I will Neutral trust with that person so that the community can identify it.

Courtesy question: If someone create an account with a suffix of "onliner" or any username, then once they earn enough sMerits, they send bunches of Merits to my account to ruin my reputation then will I be a victim or how the community will look at that?



A polite warning. Please do not bring my personal stuff in here. I can have three Facebook accounts. What is it here to do with that? You do not know me. What I do for living, my profession, my motivation nothing at all. So, stay away for good.



Ok, seems like I lost my mind. This motherfucker is twisting everything. I will take a break and focus on some real stuffs to do.

Be happy be at peace. Looking forward to BTC at $1M
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May 21, 2018, 02:37:03 PM
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Murder by neglect ? We are talking about something slightly less trivial as "liking" someone on facebook. If the merit system wasn't supposed to be used then it shouldn't have been introduced. If it was anymore complex than giving credit to someone that you believed deserves it - it should have been outlined better in the instructions.

I find this whole trial by lynchmob quite abhorrent.

Nah mate, you didn't understand me well. What I wanted to say is that by not being bothered to read about merit and how's it used, you got yourself into this situation. Like playing with a gun when it accidentally goes off. You didn't mean to, but you did.

It's not like liking a facebook post, it's completely different by definition and it's not even close to "like" by some other meaning. It would be more similar to subscribe on youtube or sub/donate on twitch.

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May 21, 2018, 07:10:53 PM
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@mdayonliner first congratulations on ranking up...

Well I have been following you (reading your frequent entries in meta sections) and never saw you loosing cool like this in your last post.

I'm sure you know better how to handle the situation... would have been better if you answered the concerned parties individually.

See in your last post too many colors/fonts/bold/italic making it unreadable and people will miss your point.

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May 21, 2018, 08:30:55 PM
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@mdayonliner first congratulations on ranking up...

Well I have been following you (reading your frequent entries in meta sections) and never saw you loosing cool like this in your last post.

I'm sure you know better how to handle the situation... would have been better if you answered the concerned parties individually.

See in your last post too many colors/fonts/bold/italic making it unreadable and people will miss your point.


Thanks mate, appreciate it.
You are doing well by the way. I am pretty sure, soon to see you rank up too. Keep up the good works.

I have changed the font size and all these unnecessary formatting. Looks much better now. It was the reflection of losing my mind LOL

Be happy be at peace. Looking forward to BTC at $1M
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May 23, 2018, 01:00:40 AM
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While I disagree with some of the opinions on here and find the whole accusation stupid.  In my opinion I have done nothing wrong and neither has Lafu.

However I have spoken to Lafu and agreed that we should not use merits on each others posts to avoid suspicion.

This message was the one that made me smile and realise I have spent far to much time on this nonsense.


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