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March 23, 2014, 04:47:23 PM
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There has been some significant volatility in BTC and LTC prices this week. Wonder what will happen to revenue growth  this week?

Autotrade maintain 80% annual return for the investors (which is really high) but keep the rest of the profit for them.



Autotrade IPO said

"20% of profit will be the account management fees, all the remaining 80% is used to share out bonus, each fund will be share one over one million of 80% of profits."

So i don't think AutoTrade mgt. is keeping the balance for themselves.
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March 24, 2014, 07:32:59 AM
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<Dividend Paid>Total dividend 15.68BTC.

交易时间:2014/3/17-2014/3/24(GMT+8)
交易货币:LTC、XPM、DOGE
合计利润:19.6BTC
分红总额:19.6*80%=15.68BTC

Transaction time : 2014/3/17-2014/3/24(GMT+8)
Currencies : LTC、XPM、DOGE
Total profits : 19.6BTC
Totol dividends : 19.6*80%=15.68BTC

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BtcAutoTrader Team
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March 24, 2014, 09:47:46 AM
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There has been some significant volatility in BTC and LTC prices this week. Wonder what will happen to revenue growth  this week?
Autotrade maintain 80% annual return for the investors (which is really high) but keep the rest of the profit for them.
Autotrade IPO said
"20% of profit will be the account management fees, all the remaining 80% is used to share out bonus, each fund will be share one over one million of 80% of profits."
So i don't think AutoTrade mgt. is keeping the balance for themselves.

Actually you are right, we are above 88% annual return.
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March 31, 2014, 07:21:53 AM
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<Dividend Paid>Total dividend 16.06BTC.

交易时间:2014/3/24-2014/3/30(GMT+8)
交易货币:LTC、XPM、DOGE
合计利润:20.07BTC
分红总额:20.07*80%=16.06BTC

Transaction time : 2014/3/24-2014/3/30(GMT+8)
Currencies : LTC、XPM、DOGE
Total profits : 20.07BTC
Totol dividends : 20.07*80%=16.06BTC

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April 07, 2014, 07:21:28 AM
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<Dividend Paid>Total dividend 16.59BTC.

交易时间:2014/3/31-2014/4/6(GMT+8)
交易货币:LTC、XPM、DOGE
合计利润:20.74BTC
分红总额:20.74*80%=16.59BTC

Transaction time : 2014/3/31-2014/4/6(GMT+8)
Currencies : LTC、XPM、DOGE
Total profits : 20.74BTC
Totol dividends : 20.74*80%=16.59BTC

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April 08, 2014, 09:46:49 AM
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We managed to invite Bentley to join our QQ group:52209910.
And we have asked him plenty of questions concerning the legitimacy of the project and future progress.
Chat transcript here(in Chinese) :
http://bbs.btcman.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=17507&extra=page%3D1

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April 08, 2014, 10:56:48 AM
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We managed to invite Bentley to join our QQ group:52209910.
And we have asked him plenty of questions concerning the legitimacy of the project and future progress.
Chat transcript here(in Chinese) :
http://bbs.btcman.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=17507&extra=page%3D1


Google translation (with warts & all)

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fbbs.btcman.com%2Fforum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D17507%26extra%3Dpage%253D1&edit-text=
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April 14, 2014, 07:48:05 AM
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<Dividend Paid>Total dividend 16.77BTC.

交易时间:2014/4/7-2014/4/13(GMT+8)
交易货币:LTC、XPM、DOGE
合计利润:20.96BTC
分红总额:20.96*80%=16.77BTC

Transaction time : 2014/4/7-2014/4/13(GMT+8)
Currencies : LTC、XPM、DOGE
Total profits :  20.96BTC
Totol dividends :  20.96*80%=16.77BTC

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April 14, 2014, 06:21:53 PM
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It's surprising how consistent the payout is.
Thanks Smiley
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April 17, 2014, 07:02:38 AM
Last edit: April 17, 2014, 03:47:51 PM by bentleysui
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Dear AutoTrade investors,please disclose your email before 2014/4/19 12:00(GMT+8), we will announce a new product.

亲爱的投资者,
请在2014/4/19 12:00(GMT+8)前公开您的邮箱(cryptostocks account settings),我们即将发布新产品,我们希望你们是第一批知道这个消息的人。
如果您不方便公开您的AutoTrade份额,请发送您的email到btc@ejustech.com。
我们会在指定时间通过邮件一起发布。

Dear investors,
Please disclose your email(cryptostocks account settings) before 2014/4/19 12:00(GMT+8), we will announce a new product, and hope you are the first people know the news. If you do not convenient disclose your AutoTrade shares, please email to btc@ejustech.com to get the details of the new product.We will release that at the specified time by the email.

Best regards.
AutoTrade Team
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April 19, 2014, 04:04:46 AM
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Dear AutoTrade investors,please disclose your email before 2014/4/19 12:00(GMT+8), we will announce a new product.

亲爱的投资者,
请在2014/4/19 12:00(GMT+8)前公开您的邮箱(cryptostocks account settings),我们即将发布新产品,我们希望你们是第一批知道这个消息的人。
如果您不方便公开您的AutoTrade份额,请发送您的email到btc@ejustech.com。
我们会在指定时间通过邮件一起发布。

Dear investors,
Please disclose your email(cryptostocks account settings) before 2014/4/19 12:00(GMT+8), we will announce a new product, and hope you are the first people know the news. If you do not convenient disclose your AutoTrade shares, please email to btc@ejustech.com to get the details of the new product.We will release that at the specified time by the email.

Best regards.
AutoTrade Team

Can you just clarify that all the investor needs to do is make their email visible on cryptostocks?
And that no investments will be lost if we make email visible...

What has the new product got to do with AUTOTRADE?

Thanks

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April 19, 2014, 01:32:58 PM
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Dear AutoTrade investors,please disclose your email before 2014/4/19 12:00(GMT+8), we will announce a new product.

亲爱的投资者,
请在2014/4/19 12:00(GMT+8)前公开您的邮箱(cryptostocks account settings),我们即将发布新产品,我们希望你们是第一批知道这个消息的人。
如果您不方便公开您的AutoTrade份额,请发送您的email到btc@ejustech.com。
我们会在指定时间通过邮件一起发布。

Dear investors,
Please disclose your email(cryptostocks account settings) before 2014/4/19 12:00(GMT+8), we will announce a new product, and hope you are the first people know the news. If you do not convenient disclose your AutoTrade shares, please email to btc@ejustech.com to get the details of the new product.We will release that at the specified time by the email.

Best regards.
AutoTrade Team

Can you just clarify that all the investor needs to do is make their email visible on cryptostocks?
And that no investments will be lost if we make email visible...

What has the new product got to do with AUTOTRADE?

Thanks
The showing or not of the email address, you find that option under settings on CryptoStocks. I think CS have the emailadress automatically set to show it to asset issuers for new investors accounts created after the date they introduced that function and all old accounts created before that date still have it automatically hidden unless people manually changed it.
Its not possible for Autotrade to garantee that it is safe to show the emailadress, that is something that only CS would be able to garantee if it was secure.
As you at the moment cant even choose what asset issuers you want to make it visible for, its shown for all or none of the issuers you have stocks in depending on what you choose its probably better to not activate the showing of emailadress to asset issuers on CS.

So it would probably be better/safer if Autotrade just sent the interested investors a PM here on Bitcointalk with the announcement of there new project.

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April 19, 2014, 01:38:09 PM
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Dear AutoTrade investors,please disclose your email before 2014/4/19 12:00(GMT+8), we will announce a new product.

亲爱的投资者,
请在2014/4/19 12:00(GMT+8)前公开您的邮箱(cryptostocks account settings),我们即将发布新产品,我们希望你们是第一批知道这个消息的人。
如果您不方便公开您的AutoTrade份额,请发送您的email到btc@ejustech.com。
我们会在指定时间通过邮件一起发布。

Dear investors,
Please disclose your email(cryptostocks account settings) before 2014/4/19 12:00(GMT+8), we will announce a new product, and hope you are the first people know the news. If you do not convenient disclose your AutoTrade shares, please email to btc@ejustech.com to get the details of the new product.We will release that at the specified time by the email.

Best regards.
AutoTrade Team

Can you just clarify that all the investor needs to do is make their email visible on cryptostocks?
And that no investments will be lost if we make email visible...

What has the new product got to do with AUTOTRADE?

Thanks
The showing or not of the email address, you find that option under settings on CryptoStocks. I think CS have the emailadress automatically set to show it to asset issuers for new investors accounts created after the date they introduced that function and all old accounts created before that date still have it automatically hidden unless people manually changed it.
Its not possible for Autotrade to garantee that it is safe to show the emailadress, that is something that only CS would be able to garantee if it was secure.
As you at the moment cant even choose what asset issuers you want to make it visible for, its shown for all or none of the issuers you have stocks in depending on what you choose its probably better to not activate the showing of emailadress to asset issuers on CS.

So it would probably be better/safer if Autotrade just sent the interested investors a PM here on Bitcointalk with the announcement of there new project.


Yeh thanks for that.

I have made my email visible , i just want to know my investments in AUTOTRADE aint going anywhere.

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April 19, 2014, 11:14:50 PM
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I'm still very clueless about what is going on? Can anyone help?

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I'm still very clueless about what is going on? Can anyone help?
1.) Take a deep breath and clear your mind.
2.) Login to your crypto::stocks account
3.) Under [Account] on far upper right of screen select [Settings] (second option from bottom)
4.) [Settings]->  (General Settings Section) ->  Check box for "Disclose my e-mail"

Hope this helps Smiley

*Should be interesting indeed to see what happens with the share price once the IPO is completed.  Thus far AUTOTRADE has had a pretty decent return insofar as dividend payouts are concerned.

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April 20, 2014, 12:28:44 PM
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New products release&Shares given email have been sent.

Dear investors,
Due to our email server to send email under quantity restriction everyday, we send it in batches.
Now all emails have been sent, please check your email.
Thank you.

Best regards.
Bitcoin Investment Guarantee Co., Ltd.
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April 20, 2014, 02:32:08 PM
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"we may buy back the AUTOTRADE or
upgrade the AUTOTRADE to shares of BtcAutoTrader, the final decision is investors of
AUTOTRADE’s. "

If you have to buy back the shares, will it be at IPO price?

Also, why don't you augment your share of the profit? If you kept 40%, gave 50% to shareholders and kept 10% more for reinvestment, you'd cover your operational expense and it would be good for the growth and long-term profitability of your operation. I would prefer to have a lower weekly profit percentage than lose money in a few months.
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April 20, 2014, 08:16:17 PM
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If you have to buy back the shares, will it be at IPO price?
With C:S they can perform a "Trade In" which would enable them to perform this "upgrade" to a new project without needing to perform a buy-back. The primary issue here, I imagine, is the English proficiency of the team - doing a buyback is probably a little more straightforward and they might have a better sense  of what it is they're doing.

Trade-In
The feature of "Trade-In" allows a project issuer to offer his existing shareholders in one of his projects a possibility to "upgrade" the shares to a new project listed at a predefined trade-in cost. The project issuer can define an overall total limit of shares that he allows to be traded in and/or a per-shareholder max. nunmber of shares that can be traded in.

The functionality for activating a trade-in is on the security tab "My projects". The icon  allows to activate a trade-in. Once the trade-in is active, an icon  is visible that allows to cancel the trade-in offer.

For shareholders an icon  appears on the security "My shares" tab.

Also, why don't you augment your share of the profit? If you kept 40%, gave 50% to shareholders and kept 10% more for reinvestment, you'd cover your operational expense and it would be good for the growth and long-term profitability of your operation. I would prefer to have a lower weekly profit percentage than lose money in a few months.

This would be preferable to me as well. Frankly I'm not all that convinced that selling the software is a good idea in any case - certainly not for a fixed fee / lifetime license. If its true that the system AUTOTRADE is currently profiting from would be able to accommodate another 2000 participants at varying levels - then why not just release a new tranche of shares and do the work for them (and make 20% or 40% or whatever) on those profits? Adding those shares at 0.0012 or 0.0015 or 0.002 would probably, ultimately, sell them out as well (provided the thesis that the model scales to that level is true).
Note: I've edited this post. I made a suggestion based on limited research and information. After taking a bit more time analyzing this project I find far too many unanswered questions. Until such questions are answered, the best way forward for this business (if a business it even is) remains unclear.

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April 20, 2014, 08:42:36 PM
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This would be preferable to me as well. Frankly I'm not all that convinced that selling the software is a good idea in any case - certainly not for a fixed fee / lifetime license. If its true that the system AUTOTRADE is currently profiting from would be able to accommodate another 2000 participants at varying levels - then why not just release a new tranche of shares and do the work for them (and make 20% or 40% or whatever) on those profits? Adding those shares at 0.0012 or 0.0015 or 0.002 would probably, ultimately, sell them out as well (provided the thesis that the model scales to that level is true).

I agree, and selling the software to third parties would reduce considerably our potential arbitrage profits. I'd advice Autotrade to make a vote to make higher their share of the profit, and/or sell more shares. If shares are sold the same way as the previous model (200000 at 0.0006, 200000 at 0.0007, etc.), they would be sold quite quickly and it would greatly profit this project long-term.
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all shares were sold out, please lift IPO flag  Cheesy
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