[AUTOTRADE]BTC hedge fund by BtcAutoTrader(The first automated BTC hedge fund)

[tricomp]

Whats happening to divs today?

CryptoStocks haven't processed deposits all weekend. I am guessing this also has impacted AUTOTRADE

Thats right. Withdrawals were also not going thru all weekend on CS. This looks serious!!

[tricomp]

Whats happening to divs today?

CryptoStocks haven't processed deposits all weekend. I am guessing this also has impacted AUTOTRADE

Thats right. Withdrawals were also not going thru all weekend on CS. This looks serious!!

Cryptostocks' customer service  just gave the update below via email

"Hi,

the BTC wallet become unresponsive, we have fixed the issue and you
should be able to deposit and withdraw again. Outstanding deposits will
ofcourse be credited too.

==================================
Best regards
Your Cryptostocks Team"

[xtcminer]

Looks like Autotrade continues to scam its investors.
I've applied for the "buyback" on the same day they issued https://cryptostocks.com/announcements/2065, immediately after I've read it. Next day they replied me - oops, sorry, we've already repurchased 100000 shares, you are late. And at the same time cancelled share trades with the new IPO flag.

Also, I can't see any reason for majority of investors to prefer share upgrade over buyback. This just does not make sense.

Thus, the question has to be asked. Is there a single person here who
1) had voted for the share upgrade instead of buyback?
2) or had successfull buyback at announced price?

Was out for a while, let's get back to AUTOTRADE scam. What we know at the point:

1) there was no actual buyback (and there was no intention of it)
2) some aliens from Nibiru voted for shares upgrade

And the conclusion is straightforward - there was no actual arbitrage trading as well. Just a classic ponzi, dividends were paid by new investors buying shares (IPO flag was on for very long time, so no one else can trade).

However, even it was that bad, do a simple math. They've gathered 750 BTC from shares, paid 220 BTC in dividends, and can't afford to buyback 1/5 of shares?? Ha-ha. So, they just took over 500 BTC, and now are asking for more via new IPO. Guess what will happen next? Suddenly, a new upgrade and IPO!

Everyone who's thinking on investing into this crap -
STAY AWAY FROM THIS COFFEE-HEDGING GUARANTEE!

We need to blacklist them on cryptostocks and end this scam.  And those who are still hoping to somehow get their BTC back - abandon your hope, let's get to revenge part.

[jyaken]

So done with wishing.

What i saw is that there is no revenge. We r sheep. 

[thy]

Whats happening to divs today?

They failed to pay dividend so yet another thing there breaking in there contract, Kumala please have them up there verification level to advanced and remove the IPOflag permanently for them and change the rating to gray unless they start following there original contract imediatly.

[msc_de]

Looks like Autotrade continues to scam its investors.
I've applied for the "buyback" on the same day they issued https://cryptostocks.com/announcements/2065, immediately after I've read it. Next day they replied me - oops, sorry, we've already repurchased 100000 shares, you are late. And at the same time cancelled share trades with the new IPO flag.

Also, I can't see any reason for majority of investors to prefer share upgrade over buyback. This just does not make sense.

Thus, the question has to be asked. Is there a single person here who
1) had voted for the share upgrade instead of buyback?
2) or had successfull buyback at announced price?

Was out for a while, let's get back to AUTOTRADE scam. What we know at the point:

1) there was no actual buyback (and there was no intention of it)
2) some aliens from Nibiru voted for shares upgrade

And the conclusion is straightforward - there was no actual arbitrage trading as well. Just a classic ponzi, dividends were paid by new investors buying shares (IPO flag was on for very long time, so no one else can trade).

However, even it was that bad, do a simple math. They've gathered 750 BTC from shares, paid 220 BTC in dividends, and can't afford to buyback 1/5 of shares?? Ha-ha. So, they just took over 500 BTC, and now are asking for more via new IPO. Guess what will happen next? Suddenly, a new upgrade and IPO!

Everyone who's thinking on investing into this crap -
STAY AWAY FROM THIS COFFEE-HEDGING GUARANTEE!

We need to blacklist them on cryptostocks and end this scam.  And those who are still hoping to somehow get their BTC back - abandon your hope, let's get to revenge part.

maybe right,  i sold out all weeks ago

[bentleysui]

About dividend payments and BtcAutoTrader progress

Dear investors,

We have received some emails about asking why we did not pay dividend this week, for this, we make a consistent declarations here.
About the dividend payment we had explained before the vote, please kindly refer to the follow announcements:
Before the vote：https://cryptostocks.com/announcements/1959
Voting result：AUTOTRADE upgrade
After the vote：https://cryptostocks.com/announcements/2065

According the "announcement before the vote" + "the voting result" + "the annoucement after the vote", we have suspended automatic arbitrage trade, hence there is no dividend payments this week, the next dividend payments will be paid after the BtcAutoTrader official offer.

Besides, we see that some people said we are the cheater, liar, fraud, we think these people voted against on AUTOTRADE upgrade,so we understand why they said that.
We solemnly declare here, we are not fools, investors are not fools, please think back the everything about this from we started to sell BtcAutoTrader (arbitrage version).
If we are liar,
Why we cancel the BtcAutoTrader (arbitrage version) selling according the voting result?
Why we send the email to the purchaser whom want to buy the BtcAutoTrader (arbitrage version), ask them if they need a refund?

Ok. I still want to buy Btc Autotrader. Thank you.

XXXXX XXX

On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 12:07 PM, AutoTrade <btc@ejustech.com> wrote:
Dear investor,

Thank you for your support, the BtcAutoTrader will provide English version.

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Best regards and thanks for your support!
BtcAutoTrader Team
 
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From:  "XXXXXXX"<XXXXXXX@yahoo.com>;
Date:  Sun, May 11, 2014 03:53 PM
To:  "AUTOTRADE"<btc@ejustech.com>;
Subject:  Re: Re: 新产品发布&股份赠送计划(New products release&Shares given Plan)
 
Hello,

I still want to buy BtcAutoTrader if it will be in English.

Respectfully,

XXXXX XXX
On Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:07 PM, AutoTrade <btc@ejustech.com> wrote:
Dear shareholder,

We are very sorry to inform you, according to the outcome of the vote, the automatic arbitrage function will be removed from the BtcAutoTrader we are going to sell.
Do you still want to buy the BtcAutoTrader?
If you also want to buy that, we will give you a license without time limits.
If you do not, we will compensate you 0.02BTC, give you a refund 1BTC.
Thanks for understanding for the inconvenience.

------------------
Best regards and thanks for your support!
BtcAutoTrader Team
 
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From:  "XXXXXXX"<XXXXXXX@yahoo.com>;
Date:  Sun, Apr 20, 2014 07:21 PM
To:  "AUTOTRADE"<btc@ejustech.com>;
Subject:  Re: Re: 新产品发布&股份赠送计划(New products release&Shares given Plan)
 
Thank you.

On Sunday, April 20, 2014 6:15 PM, "btc@ejustech.com" <btc@ejustech.com> wrote:
Dear,

We have recorded, you will enjoy our commitment.

Best regards!
Bitcoin Investment Guarantee Co., Ltd.
 
发件人： XXXXX XXX
发送时间： 2014-04-20 19:06
收件人： btc@ejustech.com
主题： Re: Re: 新产品发布&股份赠送计划(New products release&Shares given Plan)
I send .98 btc now to the address (1K1jpYLyML7LpbUs7wtdGshyKBgVW13g5Q).

XXXXX XXX
XXXXXXX@yahoo.com

On Sunday, April 20, 2014 5:52 PM, "btc@ejustech.com" <btc@ejustech.com> wrote:
Dear,

Thank you for purchasing BtcAutoTrader,
Please payment the BTC to the following address,
This BTC wallet address only belongs to you, and we will make a record.

BTC wallet address : 1K1jpYLyML7LpbUs7wtdGshyKBgVW13g5Q,

Best regards!
Bitcoin Investment Guarantee Co., Ltd.
 
发件人： XXXXX XXX
发送时间： 2014-04-20 18:16
收件人： AutoTrade
主题： Re: 新产品发布&股份赠送计划(New products release&Shares given Plan)
I am interested in buy BtcAutoTrader. Please let me know how to buy using bitcoin. Thank you.

Respectfully,

XXXXX XXX
XXXXXXX@yahoo.com

On Sunday, April 20, 2014 1:16 PM, AutoTrade <btc@ejustech.com> wrote:
Dear investors,

很高兴大家愿意向我们公开自己的邮箱，这封邮件内容是我们的"新产品发布&股份赠送计划"，共分为中文和英文两个版本，详细内容请查阅附件。
由于英文不是我们的母语，难免有翻译疏漏的地方，所以全部内容以中文版本为主，给您带来的不便敬请谅解。
大家有任何问题都可以随时联系我们。

最后，再次感谢大家的支持与信任。

We are glad that you disclose your email for us, this content in the email is the "New products release&Shares given Plan", include Chinese version and English version, about the details please refer to the attachment.
Due to English is not our native language, maybe translate omissions inevitably, so all of the following statements to Chinese version shall prevail, please accept our apology for any inconvenience.
If you have any question please do not hesitate to contact to us.
Finally, thank you for you support and confidence.

Best regards!
Bitcoin Investment Guarantee Co., Ltd.

Why do not we make off with BTC?

The Bitcointalk is the place with freedom of speech, hence we cannot stop what people say here, we also do not want to argue with them whether we cheat, we hope people judge themselves, avoid losses.

Finally, we want to tell you that the BtcAutoTrader development is smoothly, the only thing we have not anticipated is the Btc-e is banned from China, but can through a proxy to access.
We have some solutions regarding this problem and will solve it in the BtcAutoTrader development.
If there is any further news we will inform.

Best regards
BtcAutoTrader Team

[xtcminer]

Oh, preach brother, preach...

Of course you are the fraud. Otherwise there would be at least one successfull buyback report here.
Of course you are not a fool. Fools are those who brought you 500 BTC and now are bringing more.

That voting was totally wrong. The first question for voting should be whether you cancel your current "arbitrage" and buyback all shares.
And if someone wants to continue - make a new project with new IPO and invite investors there. But you presented voting in a "Yes, cancel arbitrage" "No, cancel arbitrage" form.

Even with completely broken voting, its results are a clear fake anyway.
There was no single reason for investors in clear mind to vote for the upgrade. Coffee houses instead of arbitrage? Am I the only one who feels it stinks as hell?
And even if it was that bad, you had your chance to solve the situation with buyback, but instead you just laughed at us with "sorry, too late" crap.

If we are liar,
Why we cancel the BtcAutoTrader (arbitrage version) selling according the voting result?

Because there was nothing to sell.
There was no any "arbitrage" going on during these months. What a perfect scheme - just put IPO flag and sell shares, use some BTC to buy own shares to simulate buying activity. When done - anounce an upgrade and put IPO flag again. Repeat as long as possible. New investor gets a perfect picture - security price is constantly rising. Looks legit, what could possibly go wrong?

Why do not we make off with BTC?

Because you know you can take more.

You have the only chance to save your reputation. Do an actual buyback for everyone who wants to, and remove this f*ing IPO flag so everyone can trade. Everything else just prooves your scam.

[bentleysui]

Let's see what will happen in the future.

[NotLambchop]

Happy trading investing whatever.

[xtcminer]

Let's see what will happen in the future.

All of that "future" depends on one simple question. Please answer it to the public.

Let's assume everything was right and there's no fraud.

You have received 750 BTC from shareholders.
Your arbitrage operations brought you 275 BTC (220 were paid as dividends, and 55 are yours).
You still have that 750 BTC, do you?

It is simple like that.

[kulin3422]

It will take years before we can trade.

[bentleysui]

Let's see what will happen in the future.

All of that "future" depends on one simple question. Please answer it to the public.

Let's assume everything was right and there's no fraud.

You have received 750 BTC from shareholders.
Your arbitrage operations brought you 275 BTC (220 were paid as dividends, and 55 are yours).
You still have that 750 BTC, do you?

It is simple like that.

Dear xtcminer,

Yes, you are right, it's a simple question, and what you say is partly right.

So it's hard to understand that why you make things become so complicated to this, and say we are liar without any evidence but never ask us directly.

Well, if the first you just want to get the answer, and mail to us, these unpleasant things would not be happened.
But now you are the only one who ask this problem,
and if you want to on behalf of all shareholders to want to us publicly disclosed the latest trends of IPO'BTC, it is a visible problem involves the shareholders, so we need to consult other shareholders to agree.
We will lanch a vote, for this, for you.
In a word, We hope you can eliminate the misunderstanding to us.

Voting content:

Do you agree to our publicly disclosed the latest trends of IPO'BTC?
Announcement：https://cryptostocks.com/announcements/2194
Yes：Agree
No：Disagree

We hope you can cast your valuable vote.

Best regards.

[tricomp]

Let's see what will happen in the future.

All of that "future" depends on one simple question. Please answer it to the public.

Let's assume everything was right and there's no fraud.

You have received 750 BTC from shareholders.
Your arbitrage operations brought you 275 BTC (220 were paid as dividends, and 55 are yours).
You still have that 750 BTC, do you?

It is simple like that.

Dear xtcminer,

Yes, you are right, it's a simple question, and what you say is partly right.

So it's hard to understand that why you make things become so complicated to this, and say we are liar without any evidence but never ask us directly.

Well, if the first you just want to get the answer, and mail to us, these unpleasant things would not be happened.
But now you are the only one who ask this problem,
and if you want to on behalf of all shareholders to want to us publicly disclosed the latest trends of IPO'BTC, it is a visible problem involves the shareholders, so we need to consult other shareholders to agree.
We will lanch a vote, for this, for you.
In a word, We hope you can eliminate the misunderstanding to us.

Voting content:

Do you agree to our publicly disclosed the latest trends of IPO'BTC?
Announcement：https://cryptostocks.com/announcements/2194
Yes：Agree
No：Disagree

We hope you can cast your valuable vote.

Best regards.

I think you need to start using a professional chines/english translator that can capture the nuances of the english language for some of the sensitive things you intend to communicate, so that you can avoid allegations of asking for a vote where the YES and NO answer appear to be leading to the same thing.
For example in the current vote request:

"Memo1: Fully visible (If not the shareholder also can see)"

The statement is confusing. If its visible , are you suggesting that the public and shareholder can see and if not visible only the shareholders can see?. It that is what it is , then it would be better to say so instead of the way its currently expressed, with its possible misinterpretation.

[bentleysui]

Dear tricomp,

Thank you for your suggestion, and we will try to learn English.

"Memo1: Fully visible (If not the shareholder also can see)"

The statement is confusing. If its visible , are you suggesting that the public and shareholder can see and if not visible only the shareholders can see?. It that is what it is , then it would be better to say so instead of the way its currently expressed, with its possible misinterpretation.

Before the change：Fully visible (If not the shareholder also can see)
After the change：Fully visible (Non shareholders can also visible)

Best regards.

[xtcminer]

All of that "future" depends on one simple question. Please answer it to the public.

Let's assume everything was right and there's no fraud.

You have received 750 BTC from shareholders.
Your arbitrage operations brought you 275 BTC (220 were paid as dividends, and 55 are yours).
You still have that 750 BTC, do you?

It is simple like that.

Dear xtcminer,

Yes, you are right, it's a simple question, and what you say is partly right.

So it's hard to understand that why you make things become so complicated to this, and say we are liar without any evidence but never ask us directly.

The only person who makes things complicated here is you.
A week ago I was just an ordinary investor who requested buyback that you have announced.
The rest is history.

We will lanch a vote, for this, for you.
In a word, We hope you can eliminate the misunderstanding to us.

Voting content:

Do you agree to our publicly disclosed the latest trends of IPO'BTC?
Announcement：https://cryptostocks.com/announcements/2194
Yes：Agree
No：Disagree

Why would you need any voting just to answer yes or no? I was not asking for any proof at this point.
Just yes or no - so all shareholders can see your statement.
Again, do you have that 750 BTC (or equivalent in LTC/XPM/DOGE) you have received from shareholders?

And in new voting announcement by "trends" I guess you mean "trades", otherwise I just can't understand what this voting is about.

[gica_contra]

Let's see what will happen in the future.

All of that "future" depends on one simple question. Please answer it to the public.

Let's assume everything was right and there's no fraud.

You have received 750 BTC from shareholders.
Your arbitrage operations brought you 275 BTC (220 were paid as dividends, and 55 are yours).
You still have that 750 BTC, do you?

It is simple like that.

No, they don't. There was no arbitrage. They payed their salaries (8 guys) and the dividends from it.

[bentleysui]

do you have that 750 BTC (or equivalent in LTC/XPM/DOGE) you have received from shareholders?

Can you tell us the 750 BTC is how calculated?
If you only want us to use yes or no answer, the answer is no, because the number is wrong.
We don't want to irresponsible answer no,
so we think disclosed the latest trends of IPO'BTC is the best way to solve your doubt.
We hope you can understand.

[bentleysui]

【Banned Exchange Investigation】

Dear investors,

As we said in announcement, btc-e is is banned from China.
We want to know whether which the popular exchange also been banned from your country?
For example, bitstamp, BTC-e, cryptsy etc.
We hope to get your feedback or email.
Thank you very much.

Best regards.

[xtcminer]

do you have that 750 BTC (or equivalent in LTC/XPM/DOGE) you have received from shareholders?

Can you tell us the 750 BTC is how calculated?
If you only want us to use yes or no answer, the answer is no, because the number is wrong.
We don't want to irresponsible answer no,
so we think disclosed the latest trends of IPO'BTC is the best way to solve your doubt.
We hope you can understand.

You understand the question perfectly, do not play fool with us. "The number is wrong" is so pathetic excuse.

However for those who do not know the full story, I'll put numbers here.

You sold shares in 5 rounds, 200000 shares each, starting from 0.0006 up to 0.001 BTC per share.
And total is 120 + 140 + 160 + 180 + 200 = 800 BTC.
So, yes, the number is wrong, you should have 800 BTC, not 750 (as I quickly approximated before).
If you think this number is wrong - we'll be glad to see your calculation here.

But you don't have even 750, as you just stated. Thanks for being honest. I hope everyone is now able to make their conclusion.