Forum moderators deleting posts they don't like?

[Mojo2012]

Hi guys,

it's is very weird, but this is the second time one of my posts got deleted. Both were related to a religious discussion.
My posts didnt offend anyone, we not racist or sexist or something like that at all.
They responded to a previous post, they related to the actual topic of the thread.

What both posts had in common: both were contained critical thoughs about christianity (not offensive!).

When my first post was deleted I had the strange feeling that it just got deleted, because the moderator didn't like my opinion. And this time it's the same.

How come, that a post basically being the same as mine but with an opposite opinion doesn't get deleted, but mine is. Even though it should be fine - at least how  I see it compared to the forum rules.

Are the moderators here are all hardcore-pro-christians and biased in a way?

I'm just curious, if anyone feels offended, I'm sorry.

[coinlocket$]

I don't think they have time to read all of your posts, you probably are violating some rules on the forum and someone is reporting you and moderator is deleting your posts.

[Mariksa]

Several of my posts on a religious topic were also deleted and I don't understand why. But the only difference is that they did not criticize Christianity.
My posts also weren't off topic so I don't really understand why this happened.

[actmyname]

Quote the posts that have been deleted. I'm assuming that this is in P&S. AFAIK, Flying Hellfish is actually an atheist.

Perhaps you stumbled into a thread that was redundant/pointless? Trying to add to a lack of a discussion is as bad as not adding to a discussion at all. It would be like trying to have a conversation with a brick wall.

[hilariousandco]

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Are the moderators here are all hardcore-pro-christians and biased in a way?

Nobody makes fun of JC on my watch.

It would help if you posted the deleted message and what thread it was removed from. Posts aren't (or at least shouldn't) be removed just because somebody disagrees with it or finds it offensive but it could have broken the rules in some other way (the thread was necrobumped by a spammer etc).

[HabBear]

it's is very weird, but this is the second time one of my posts got deleted. Both were related to a religious discussion.

You're drawing conclusions without having a lot of facts to do so, it's ok, it's human nature to think that way but it doesn't mean you're being targeted.

When were these posts first made? Where they both from the same thread? Did the entire thread get deleted? Can you write a sample of what you wrote here? The english was OK? You added something to the discussion?

All of these questions need to be answered for us to help you understand why your posts would have been deleted.

Nobody makes fun of JC on my watch.

I know hilariousandco is a real bible thumper but if he's working on the sabath he probably isn't as strict as you'd think! Kidding!

P.S. JC is my homeboy...but so is Moses, Abraham, Mohammed, Zoroaster, Confucius, Krishna, Gautama Buddha, and....I suppose...Joseph Smith.

[digaran]

I bet they were one or two lines of generic opinions. don't post those one or two lines of generic opinions if you are participating in a bounty campaign, that is against the rules, because people are taking advantage of this situation. I hereby stand by P & S mod's actions and would vouch for him. he has been a new mod and people are using every chance they get to bash him.

When I do the bashing, I want to voice my concerns and say that what he is doing is wrong, I don't really want him to lose his position as a mod, what I say is constructive criticism.

[Flying Hellfish]

Are the moderators here are all hardcore-pro-christians and biased in a way?

I'm just curious, if anyone feels offended, I'm sorry.

My personal beliefs are not relevant.  That being said Actmyname is 100% right, and you could not be more wrong about this particular mod (don't know or care what the other mods believe).  On a side note if you really thought I was like that why didn't take 10 minutes to read some of my post history to find out how wrong your whole assumption is?

No one in the P&S section ever needs to worry about offending me.  I give exactly zero fucks what you write.  As long as it conforms to the rules of the forum knock yourself out bro.  If it against forum rules then I will do what is appropriate.

Several of my posts on a religious topic were also deleted and I don't understand why. But the only difference is that they did not criticize Christianity.
My posts also weren't off topic so I don't really understand why this happened.

As you can see I will dump posts on either side of the debate.

Now I don't care if the post is "technically" on topic.  If it's the same thing that has been said before than your post offered no value.

I don't want to hear "my post was deleted but another one exactly like it was left".
1)  but but but what aboutism is stupid, just because I didn't catch the other one doesn't mean you can do it as well.
2) I can not catch every low/no value post, some get caught some don't, report the other ones and if I agree I will deal with them.
3)  I try to read as much of the threads as I can (no I can't read every post is every thread sorry) and a post may appear redundant to you but it may offer something I haven't seen, so I leave it.
4) the mountain of shit piles up incredibly fast.

There is a sticky at the top of the P&S board, did you read it before posting there?  With only 300 or so views it seems like people don't read before posting.

Posting in threads that are already LONG makes your post much more likely to redundant an offer no value.

The section is a place for people to come and rank up there alts/farmed/bounty accounts to junior by spamming redundant bullshit.  I am doing what I can to keep as much of it as clean as I can.  If you are honestly involved in a thread I personally give a lot of slack.  If you come by and answer the OP like a question on a test (ya its on topic but redundant as fuck) then I follow the rules of the forum more strictly.

[Flying Hellfish]

Several of my posts on a religious topic were also deleted and I don't understand why. But the only difference is that they did not criticize Christianity.
My posts also weren't off topic so I don't really understand why this happened.

If I am not mistaken I talked to you via PM and explained this to you and you are still doing it and asking why its being deleted???

Edit:  Just got to this post!

I bet they were one or two lines of generic opinions. don't post those one or two lines of generic opinions if you are participating in a bounty campaign, that is against the rules, because people are taking advantage of this situation. I hereby stand by P & S mod's actions and would vouch for him. he has been a new mod and people are using every chance they get to bash him.

When I do the bashing, I want to voice my concerns and say that what he is doing is wrong, I don't really want him to lose his position as a mod, what I say is constructive criticism.

LOL in the last month or so you have trolled the cunt off me and accused me of being involved in some pretty crazy shit and NOW you will vouch for me...  You make my brain hurt bro I would rather you go back to trolling me!

[LKingLion]

I would like to support what hellfish standard in politics and society board. There will be a time that we didn't understand the way of moderator to moderate the board. Probably it is all because we don't understand the ground in particular section of the forum. The rules to follow according is vital. One main person versus millions of people is literally unfair.
Better to learn, let go and follow the given rules.

[Mojo2012]

Well it seems that I have stung in a wasp‘s nest ;-)

So am I being right in my assumption that this all just happened bc one of the posters disagreed and hit the report button. A mod just hit delete because it seemed redundant or whatsoever?
Well ok then I should report 80% of the posts I read for either bad english (hardly readable sometimes), just stating random facts or unrelated to the OP‘s question ...

Just for the record, I really try to discuss (that’s why I am mostly in the politics forum). But most people just post stuff to rank up (sadly).

[Jet Cash]

P.S. JC is my homeboy.

I didn't know you cared.

[shahzadafzal]

P.S. JC is my homeboy...but so is Moses, Abraham, Mohammed, Zoroaster, Confucius, Krishna, Gautama Buddha, and....I suppose...Joseph Smith.

Can you please add Lord Nicolas Cage to the list

Well it seems that I have stung in a wasp‘s nest ;-)

Have a taste buddy... next time if your posts get deleted, you know what to do!!!

[Dingdongjl]

Reason's why they are deleting post.

-Redundant reply
-Out of topic reply

Also maybe some of your replies get deleted because the main thread is deleted. If the OP is deleted all of the replies will be vanished automatically.

[Flying Hellfish]

Well it seems that I have stung in a wasp‘s nest ;-)

Not sure why you would say that, I gave a detailed explanation why I delete posts.  If you read it as stung in a wasp's nest then fine, but you asked so I answered, was that not the intent of your OP?

So am I being right in my assumption that this all just happened bc one of the posters disagreed and hit the report button. A mod just hit delete because it seemed redundant or whatsoever?

See here you go making assumptions again.  As I already explained it has nothing what so ever to do with agreeing or disagreeing with your opinion.  I don't remember your posts off the top of my head (I delete quite a few posts daily) but because I receive very few reports it's unlikely it was reported but it was deleted directly by me as I checked the section out.

Well ok then I should report 80% of the posts I read for either bad english (hardly readable sometimes), just stating random facts or unrelated to the OP‘s question ...

YES PLEASE report those posts.  I can't get every shit post bro, sorry I'm not a bot on here 24/7 so I can make sure that I delete every low/no value post.  Reports would help a lot but sadly I get almost none.  You like the section and want to have real discussions in there then help me keep it clean and report shit posts.

Sadly people come here and bitch about a couple of posts and how much of a cesspool shit hole it is yet I get no help from anyone to try and clean it up...  We have users that want separate political boards because this place is a shit hole, everyone loves to complain but no one will help, so I do what I can when I am online.

How many of your posts have I left (answer, LOTS) I deleted 2 of your posts and you have been here what a month and you come in here making wild accusations without doing the least bit of research. Then continue to make the same assumption even after it was explained to you? 

You are free to say whatever you want in the section but if I see it as a redundant low value post I will delete it (until such time as I am removed as a moderator). 

If you are there for the discussion and become a good regular contributor I will probably give you a bit of slack in the future as I do with other names that I see in there often.  You have only been here less than a month so give it some time.

Believe it or not I actually want the section to have GOOD debates and that requires opposing opinions and good contributors to the section.  Don't try to say I am doing anything because of MY opinion.  I've for the most part stopped posting in the section to avoid the appearance of bias.

[Mister1k]

Reason's why they are deleting post.

-Redundant reply
-Out of topic reply

Also maybe some of your replies get deleted because the main thread is deleted. If the OP is deleted all of the replies will be vanished automatically.

Most of the time moderators looking to deleted the shit thread which has been raised many times to ask here. If you see some thread on Bitcoin and trading discussion you can find the multiple time same answers from the various people.
I do not know why people not understand the same answers not needed for the same thread from various people.
Then pointless thread which is well known to all and forum members. Those shit threaded are only trash canned.

[MainIbem]

A moderator is a moderator, we should know that. A post is deleted by the moderator who fills the post has "violated" a rule. Most OP I suppose, do not know all there the rules on the childboard. So it will be wrong to assume it was deleted for a particular reason. Referees are not questioned by the players in a game.

[Flying Hellfish]

A moderator is a moderator, we should know that. A post is deleted by the moderator who fills the post has "violated" a rule. Most OP I suppose, do not know all there the rules on the childboard. So it will be wrong to assume it was deleted for a particular reason. Referees are not questioned by the players in a game.

I don't mind being questioned, I am a new mod here and I can make a mistake.  I'm also pretty sure that the man in the big chair is watching what I am doing.  AFAIK theymos takes mod abuse seriously and I believe he is watching the stats he has and other tools to asses the worthiness of his mods.

I think its a little dickish for a month old account to jump to conclusions based on nothing more than 2 posts from a month old account being deleted about a single topic.

And I will say it once again, people love to complain but NO ONE helps.  If the OP really wants to have good discussion in there then help me keep it clean, don't run around answering test questions and report the trash so it can be cleaned up.

[Welsh]

Referees are not questioned by the players in a game.

They are. There's tonnes of different conspiracy theories about them fixing games. This also applies to the moderators of this forum whenever a post is deleted in the eyes of the person who is complaining it's never their lack of understanding of the forums rules, but that of the mods.

90% of cases it's the person complaining that's overlooked the rules or not bothered to read them. In some cases the mod might of made a mistake. So what? It happens I've had moderators apologize for marking a report bad in the past, and they didn't need to do that. Moderators are human too. Let's not forget that they aren't employees either, and volunteer to clean up the mess for all of us to have a more pleasant experience.

I don't mind being questioned, I am a new mod here and I can make a mistake.  I'm also pretty sure that the man in the big chair is watching what I am doing.  AFAIK theymos takes mod abuse seriously and I believe he is watching the stats he has and other tools to asses the worthiness of his mods.

Your fine. Even if you make mistakes theymos understands that your just human, and there's always a vetting in process when accepting new responsibilities. Unless, you are abusing your position then I can't see theymos doing anything other than letting you know to improve if you are falling short.

[digaran]

LOL in the last month or so you have trolled the cunt off me and accused me of being involved in some pretty crazy shit and NOW you will vouch for me...  You make my brain hurt bro I would rather you go back to trolling me!

I have no intentions of trolling you man. you have confused my humor with trolling. I'd vouch for you because I have seen that you are in a messy situation, from one hand you'd tolerate garbage posts thinking that it would be unfair deleting them and from the other hand, if you don't delete them people would say that you are not doing your job. I understand that you are deep in this situation. I can read posts on your section as well you know? I can see the struggle and would vouch for you. whatever you do, I'm on your side.

Note: this is not trolling. I'm very serious.

I'm telling you, delete all the one or two line generic opinions with no substance and no value added to the discussion, it's time to show them farmers and cheaters/garbage posters, this forum is not here to provide only a pay per post opportunity and they should know that by force. [mod-rule].