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Question: Do you think paid signatures should be allowed?
Only for non-newbies/jr.members.
As long as they are small.
No, exterminate them all.
Ban certain advertisers, but otherwise yes.
Yes, allow them.

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January 08, 2014, 03:25:58 PM
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There's rarely an occasion when you see a thread with a few people in it WITHOUT A PRIMEDICE AD.
These need to go, or at least ban PrimeDice - it's getting out of control, and spambots are signing up just to take advantage of this deal.

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January 08, 2014, 03:42:59 PM
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Maybe we should ban all multi-colored sigs as they are distracting.  Wink
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January 08, 2014, 03:44:23 PM
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There's rarely an occasion when you see a thread with a few people in it WITHOUT A PRIMEDICE AD.
These need to go, or at least ban PrimeDice - it's getting out of control, and spambots are signing up just to take advantage of this deal.

Why does it really matter? Why wouldn't people have a paid signature - they get paid to post whether they make 50 posts a month or 2000. As long as it's not spam, then it shouldn't be an issue. Turn sigs off if it's such an annoyance to you.

And do you have any proof of actual spambots, because I haven't seen any?



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January 08, 2014, 03:48:39 PM
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There's rarely an occasion when you see a thread with a few people in it WITHOUT A PRIMEDICE AD.
These need to go, or at least ban PrimeDice - it's getting out of control, and spambots are signing up just to take advantage of this deal.

Why does it really matter? Why wouldn't people have a paid signature - they get paid to post whether they make 50 posts a month or 2000. As long as it's not spam, then it shouldn't be an issue. Turn sigs off if it's such an annoyance to you.
I like non-spam signatures, I don't want to turn them off Tongue
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And do you have any proof of actual spambots, because I haven't seen any?
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January 08, 2014, 03:53:22 PM
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Same issue as selling accounts. If paid signatures are banned, how do you know if an ad in someone's signature isn't just a recommendation?
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January 08, 2014, 03:58:13 PM
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There's rarely an occasion when you see a thread with a few people in it WITHOUT A PRIMEDICE AD.
These need to go, or at least ban PrimeDice - it's getting out of control, and spambots are signing up just to take advantage of this deal.

Why does it really matter? Why wouldn't people have a paid signature - they get paid to post whether they make 50 posts a month or 2000. As long as it's not spam, then it shouldn't be an issue. Turn sigs off if it's such an annoyance to you.
I like non-spam signatures, I don't want to turn them off Tongue
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And do you have any proof of actual spambots, because I haven't seen any?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=401167

Haha, proof of spambots actually partaking in any signature deals. If there was any I'm sure I would've spotted and reported them already.

There are plenty of spammers and trolls here with their own signatures or none at all, so please don't label and lump everybody who has a PrimcDice sig as a spammer. The vast majority of Prime Dice participants are not any where near spammers and actually only collect for a hundred posts or so. Yes, there are some users who try game the system, but Stunna wont pay these people if caught, and they should be handled however spammers are dealt with here already, whether they have a signature or not (and paid or otherwise).


Same issue as selling accounts. If paid signatures are banned, how do you know if an ad in someone's signature isn't just a recommendation?

I agree. You can't really ban sig adverts without banning them all. People will find a way to get around it. 'Personal Texts' will be sold and then avatars whenever they come back.

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January 08, 2014, 04:02:32 PM
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There's rarely an occasion when you see a thread with a few people in it WITHOUT A PRIMEDICE AD.
These need to go, or at least ban PrimeDice - it's getting out of control, and spambots are signing up just to take advantage of this deal.

Why does it really matter? Why wouldn't people have a paid signature - they get paid to post whether they make 50 posts a month or 2000. As long as it's not spam, then it shouldn't be an issue. Turn sigs off if it's such an annoyance to you.

And do you have any proof of actual spambots, because I haven't seen any?

How can you even be taken seriously in this discussion?

You joined the forum on Nov 20, 2013 and have made 2924 posts... making for over 59 posts a day on average.
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January 08, 2014, 04:18:38 PM
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There's rarely an occasion when you see a thread with a few people in it WITHOUT A PRIMEDICE AD.
These need to go, or at least ban PrimeDice - it's getting out of control, and spambots are signing up just to take advantage of this deal.

Why does it really matter? Why wouldn't people have a paid signature - they get paid to post whether they make 50 posts a month or 2000. As long as it's not spam, then it shouldn't be an issue. Turn sigs off if it's such an annoyance to you.

And do you have any proof of actual spambots, because I haven't seen any?

How can you even be taken seriously in this discussion?

You joined the forum on Nov 20, 2013 and have made 2924 posts... making for over 59 posts a day on average.

What does it matter if I make 2000 posts a day as long as they're not spam or crap? It doesn't. I think I can be taken more seriously than people who want to ban all signatures or remove them because of a handful of spammers.

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January 08, 2014, 04:38:24 PM
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There's rarely an occasion when you see a thread with a few people in it WITHOUT A PRIMEDICE AD.
These need to go, or at least ban PrimeDice - it's getting out of control, and spambots are signing up just to take advantage of this deal.

Why does it really matter? Why wouldn't people have a paid signature - they get paid to post whether they make 50 posts a month or 2000. As long as it's not spam, then it shouldn't be an issue. Turn sigs off if it's such an annoyance to you.

And do you have any proof of actual spambots, because I haven't seen any?

How can you even be taken seriously in this discussion?

You joined the forum on Nov 20, 2013 and have made 2924 posts... making for over 59 posts a day on average.

Wow at that rate hilariousandco will have the top post count on the forum within a year.  Look out Phin.

I wont if they ban signature ads Grin, but otherwise; yeah, look out Phinny.

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January 08, 2014, 04:56:38 PM
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I wont if they ban signature ads Grin, but otherwise; yeah, look out Phinny.

So you are only spamming the forums because of the paid signature? Because, there is no way you would have something to contribute on every thread you post in.
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January 08, 2014, 05:35:48 PM
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I wont if they ban signature ads Grin, but otherwise; yeah, look out Phinny.

So you are only spamming the forums because of the paid signature? Because, there is no way you would have something to contribute on every thread you post in.

1) How is there 'no way'? Any evidence behind this or are you just assuming? 2) Can you define 'spam'? It seems anybody with a paid sig or high post count / low activity ratio is now automatically referred to as a spammer or is spamming. I only post where I have something to contribute. I don't even go in the mining or development sections because I have little to no knowledge in those areas (check my stats). I would be an absolute liar if I said I wasn't posting as much because of my signature deal; but again, what does it matter whether I or anybody else makes 50 posts a month or spends every waking minute of every day posting, as long as it's not spam and utter bollocks? It doesn't. If I was spamming I'm sure I would've been banned already, but apparently according to this my posting habits are seemingly ok. If they become a problem I'm sure I'll be warned. Again, punish people who post spam nonsense, not everybody else.


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January 08, 2014, 06:01:45 PM
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Same issue as selling accounts. If paid signatures are banned, how do you know if an ad in someone's signature isn't just a recommendation?
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January 08, 2014, 06:10:39 PM
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Same issue as selling accounts. If paid signatures are banned, how do you know if an ad in someone's signature isn't just a recommendation?
If it isn't 26pt, red and bold.

What about standard size but blocks of orange green and blue?  Wink

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January 08, 2014, 06:13:19 PM
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Same issue as selling accounts. If paid signatures are banned, how do you know if an ad in someone's signature isn't just a recommendation?
If it isn't 26pt, red and bold.

What about standard size but blocks of orange green and blue?  Wink
That means it's a recommendation which has been styled to look nice by someone who cares about web design!
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January 08, 2014, 06:14:23 PM
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Same issue as selling accounts. If paid signatures are banned, how do you know if an ad in someone's signature isn't just a recommendation?
If it isn't 26pt, red and bold.

What about standard size but blocks of orange green and blue?  Wink
That means it's a recommendation which has been styled to look nice by someone who cares about web design!


I just changed my sig all for you, Whiskers. Didn't like the blue one anyway  Grin.

We can tweak them a bit. Why don't you design me one that more to your tastes? Maybe an orange green and blue one?

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I've been on forums that make it against the rules to promote ANY site you're not directly involved with, due to the spammy nature of affiliate links in signatures.  It tends to lead to uneven enforcement at best though, which leads in turn to hurt feelings and sluggish membership.

If all you want to do is cut back on the low-quality posters that are only there for a signature link, it is effective however.

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I'd like to post my opinion in here but don't want to be labled a spammer or be mocked by my postcount ratio lol.

Obviously I'm in favour of keeping them, but I agree people who copy and paste replies etc need to be warned. If the rules are enforced stricter then spam shouldn’t be a problem. There are several members in the primedice thread who would be happy to report people to Stunna or the mods for spamming. What are the rules on spamming exactly? Is it a reportable offence? I haven’t reported any posts yet but I would if I get some clarity on this.
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January 08, 2014, 06:32:22 PM
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I'd like to post my opinion in here but don't want to be labled a spammer or be mocked by my postcount ratio lol.

Obviously I'm in favour of keeping them, but I agree people who copy and paste replies etc need to be warned. If the rules are enforced stricter then spam shouldn’t be a problem. There are several members in the primedice thread who would be happy to report people to Stunna or the mods for spamming. What are the rules on spamming exactly? Is it a reportable offence? I haven’t reported any posts yet but I would if I get some clarity on this.
Yes, it is a reportable offence.
Your postcount ratio? It's better than hilariousandco and can actually reflect somebody who is a hardcore poster. Smiley

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January 08, 2014, 06:38:51 PM
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I'd like to post my opinion in here but don't want to be labled a spammer or be mocked by my postcount ratio lol.

Obviously I'm in favour of keeping them, but I agree people who copy and paste replies etc need to be warned. If the rules are enforced stricter then spam shouldn’t be a problem. There are several members in the primedice thread who would be happy to report people to Stunna or the mods for spamming. What are the rules on spamming exactly? Is it a reportable offence? I haven’t reported any posts yet but I would if I get some clarity on this.
Yes, it is a reportable offence.

You sure about this? I'd like clarification from a mod, but either way it's hard to define what is and what isn't spam.

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January 08, 2014, 06:41:19 PM
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I'd like to post my opinion in here but don't want to be labled a spammer or be mocked by my postcount ratio lol.

Obviously I'm in favour of keeping them, but I agree people who copy and paste replies etc need to be warned. If the rules are enforced stricter then spam shouldn’t be a problem. There are several members in the primedice thread who would be happy to report people to Stunna or the mods for spamming. What are the rules on spamming exactly? Is it a reportable offence? I haven’t reported any posts yet but I would if I get some clarity on this.
Yes, it is a reportable offence.
Your postcount ratio? It's better than hilariousandco and can actually reflect somebody who is a hardcore poster. Smiley

If I had more time I'd probably post as much as he does to be fair. I'm was aiming for 1000 posts this month but doubt I'll get near that.
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