JBWashington scammer

[D05GTO]

What happened::
Messaged to purchase a small amount of BTC. .2 was agreed.  Sent payment of $160 dollars then he stated that he could not send me any btc since the funds were on hold for 21 days. 

Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=196025

Reference Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=405244.0

Amount Scammed: $160

Payment Method:Paypal
Proof of Payment:
Re: Buying BTC
« Sent to: JBWashington  on: January 08, 2014, 11:51:12 PM »
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It went through completely.

Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID # 1R483546DC444405H)
Original Transaction
 Date  Type  Status  Details  Amount
 Jan 8, 2014 Payment For Brandon Collins  Completed  ... -$160.00 USD 
Related Transaction
 Date  Type  Status  Details  Amount
 Jan 8, 2014 Charge From Credit Card  CompletedYour transfer from your credit card to your PayPal account is complete.Your transfer from your credit card to your PayPal account is complete.  Details $164.94 USD 

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Sent to:
 Brandon Collins (The recipient of this payment is Unverified)
Email:
 bmgarcia95@aol.com
Amount sent:
 -$160.00 USD
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Date:
 Jan 8, 2014
Time:
 15:07:07 PST
Status: 
 Completed
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e: Buying BTC
« Sent to: JBWashington  on: Today at 12:09:01 AM »
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Quote from: JBWashington on January 08, 2014, 11:53:18 PM

Yes i beleive it did but the funds are placed on hold for some reason in my account.


Ok, that's not right.  How about send .1 now then another .1 when it clears. 1.  Funds were sent, maybe it's not for a verified account.  Ran into this before?

Email me at d05gto@yahoo.com   Got a message I can't do more than 5 messages an hour here.

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Re: Buying BTC
« Sent to: D05GTO  on: January 08, 2014, 10:57:06 PM »

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Quote from: D05GTO on January 08, 2014, 10:45:44 PM

How much BTC for $100?  I'm thinking .115.  That's better than the Preev rate. If everything is smooth, then I'll buy a lot more.

I could do .2 for 160$ if you want.

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Re: Buying BTC
« Sent to: D05GTO  on: January 08, 2014, 11:04:48 PM »

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Re: Buying BTC
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Ok let me check then you will be receiving your BTC.
 

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Re: Buying BTC
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Quote from: D05GTO on January 08, 2014, 11:42:13 PM

Everything ok?

Nah. It says the payment is on a 21 day hold. Do you mind waiting 21 days? Ill setup a scheduled BTC transaction for then. I tried to process a refund but it would not let me.

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Re: Buying BTC
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Yes i beleive it did but the funds are placed on hold for some reason in my account.
 
 

Additional Notes: No BTC was ever sent to my address.  So, I disputed the transaction through paypal. 

[Tomatocage]

Sorry you had to learn the hard way, but out of all the veteran members with reputable trust ratings, you had to pick a guy who just registered a few weeks ago to do business with? Rule #0 in the "How to spot a scammer" thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137288.0) is:

Newbies, NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH OTHER NEWBIES, EVER. There are plenty of veteran members to do business with and ALWAYS use escrow. If you're a newbie you're doing business with another newbie, there's a 100% chance that you will get scammed (or you're a scammer yourself).

[jcoin200]

If you paid thru PayPal with a credit card you should be able to do a chargeback.  Good luck

[alabamafan1]

This is a valid reason but obviously he should have known the risks. When you first create a new paypal account and receive payment it takes 21 days to clear. If you did not send this as a gift then yes it will take 21 days to clear. The right thing to do would be for him to refund you OR him send the agreed amount to an escrow for 21 days.

[D05GTO]

It was sent as a gift.  This was in another thread and his reply is what really threw a red flag to me.


Juan Washington 
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 Jan 8 at 7:21 PM 

Good luck. You sent  as gift.

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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 16:23:22 -0800
From: d05gto@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: BTC
To: jbwashington1123@outlook.com

Ok, guess I'll just file a dispute.  No sense in waiting for 21 days for your money.


 On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 7:20 PM, Juan Washington <jbwashington1123@outlook.com> wrote:
Hey, Im  really sorry but I cant send the BTC until the  funds are off hold. It wont let me process a refund either

[JBWashington]

I'm sorry if you didn't receive the BTC. they were sent to said address you PMed me. I don't recall saying anything about a hold.

[D05GTO]

You have got to be kidding.  It is very very simple.  Just show everyone where you sent .2btc
Here is the provided address and everything that has ever been sent to it.  Strange I don't see anything close to .2btc.  Just Slush pool and cryptsy payments from mining.

17gkEnUwc1F1jyYVWe4weKLx2L6CZNoKoH


9aba8cb29a011a556c0a683ff8b332208b967057d97e926852c6ec3c9b0bb5bd 2014-01-09 17:56:48

1Gxj9iJG3JpEdAwEwM5eiwoLpGmuPYB61X
136EfeGowv2PYDAmk6Cr35y3YMB1uGxXZZ
12M3SEN2HqbwKU6sDxtZaK2XWdAuXNoDtC
  17gkEnUwc1F1jyYVWe4weKLx2L6CZNoKoH $ 15.24
 

20 Confirmations $ 15.24



0669c1765de6fdb7baa3eff59056a03b396506b772f9586fa376095d9e57d340 2014-01-08 03:23:57

1HyZEHkw3Gnahx5qMEUUVZEHTk6q3hqkhG
  17gkEnUwc1F1jyYVWe4weKLx2L6CZNoKoH $ 7.97
 

$ 7.97



2840ff8b2f5f4898bab2fe3144a9b56ce5f9da68b110671116550eb6eaa11e73 2014-01-07 12:17:27

19pjciZEkAJCVPQQg75RsJ3t3G8fxMToLf
  17gkEnUwc1F1jyYVWe4weKLx2L6CZNoKoH $ 8.90
 

$ 8.90



4522520cee506c758d2233bba699fae897c1c9d78bd3fba64ca2ac140346d9ba 2014-01-06 15:17:50

1Ao8foJVc2ZApTgmWJtXcydjKUz76CXxfy
177vFTV2KxJTjQrLnXuw9C5DDuHCwJg5Fo
  17gkEnUwc1F1jyYVWe4weKLx2L6CZNoKoH $ 8.06
 

$ 8.06



36e7d407842e8a6976a6faa9a1d014111d5fb77f10bad5eed8de8cefca18b9a6 2013-12-31 18:01:27

1PETBH2Edzp2JHjZAcqLCpdzLX8tCeVPzv
  17gkEnUwc1F1jyYVWe4weKLx2L6CZNoKoH $ 8.20
 

[WorldWideBTC]

I'm sorry if you didn't receive the BTC. they were sent to said address you PMed me. I don't recall saying anything about a hold.

And you still haven't posted a TXID anywhere.

I understand where the story you tossed out there about a 21 day hold on funds came from - eBay holds PayPal funds for 21 days for purchases. There is no reason that would apply here, as I'm almost positive that there is not a 21 day hold on funds sent as a Gift.

Just post the TXID and the matter will be cleared up, I'm sure.

[JBWashington]

I'm sorry if you didn't receive the BTC. they were sent to said address you PMed me. I don't recall saying anything about a hold.

And you still haven't posted a TXID anywhere.

I understand where the story you tossed out there about a 21 day hold on funds came from - eBay holds PayPal funds for 21 days for purchases. There is no reason that would apply here, as I'm almost positive that there is not a 21 day hold on funds sent as a Gift.

Just post the TXID and the matter will be cleared up, I'm sure.

I'll screenshot the btc-e transaction. that is all I can do. there is no TXID accessible when using BTC-E.

[JBWashington]

Ok guys. Im home now. Here is the screenie that should clear this all up. http://gyazo.com/fb77644bfcc750f33056fdbe3b0c409e.png

[WorldWideBTC]

Okay.

There is no blockchain transaction of 0.2 BTC (Or any number near that amount) in the lifetime of that wallet address.

Now this is the part where you blame BTC-e.

[realestone]

Okay.

There is no blockchain transaction of 0.2 BTC (Or any number near that amount) in the lifetime of that wallet address.

Now this is the part where you blame BTC-e.

lol

[Tomatocage]

I'll screenshot the btc-e transaction. that is all I can do. there is no TXID accessible when using BTC-E.

TBH man, that's between you and BTC-e. You could always send D05GTO .2 BTC in the meantime while you get things straightened out.

[JBWashington]

I'll screenshot the btc-e transaction. that is all I can do. there is no TXID accessible when using BTC-E.

TBH man, that's between you and BTC-e. You could always send D05GTO .2 BTC in the meantime while you get things straightened out.

I can't. I sold all my stock of BTC to a friend through Skype. I'll contact BTC-E but that's all I can do ATM

[MPOE-PR]

I can't. I sold all my stock of BTC to a friend through Skype. I'll contact BTC-E but that's all I can do ATM

I guess this is what an attempt at insulation by third party looks like when someone is particularly clueless.

General PSA: if a service eschews use of the very tools that go into making Bitcoin powerful (say, tx ids), it's not a service, it's a disservice.

Sorry for your loss, OP. Get reading, get yourself in the WoT, don't get yourself at the point of others' mercy like this again.

[Tomatocage]

Ok guys. Im home now. Here is the screenie that should clear this all up.

There's something wrong with this screen shot. The green check Mark doesn't appear until the transaction is out on the block chain.

[Tomatocage]

I can't. I sold all my stock of BTC to a friend through Skype. I'll contact BTC-E but that's all I can do ATM

You could try getting more coins through LocalBitcoins.com, no?

[D05GTO]

JB you sure are a persistent scammer.  I'm not sure what your trying to get at but you never sent anything.  So, it's never going to work.

[JBWashington]

I can't. I sold all my stock of BTC to a friend through Skype. I'll contact BTC-E but that's all I can do ATM

You could try getting more coins through LocalBitcoins.com, no?

I ain't paying the kid .4 BTC for the price of .2. I'm sorry but I am not to be called the scammer here anymore

[Tomatocage]

I ain't paying the kid .4 BTC for the price of .2. I'm sorry but I am not to be called the scammer here anymore

You haven't paid him anything yet, regardless of what the HTML says on BTC-e.