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September 06, 2011, 12:11:45 AM
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Did you steal my pronouns, too?

Yeah, sorry about that. I must have been playing too much Grand Theft Auto lately.
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September 06, 2011, 01:36:50 AM
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Plus, took a month preparing the Bitcoin piece, and still didn't know who Bruce Wagner was. Does anybody else, besides me, find this odd? (and was a member of Mt.Gox at the time)
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September 06, 2011, 02:03:48 AM
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This reporter also was aware of Plato's trip across the US and didn't know about mybitcoin.com. Maybe it's only odd to me. If I was a reporter, which I'm not, my first question would be, "How is he going to pay for stuff?"

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It’s been four days since I posted on the Bitcoin forums, announcing my plan to cross the US with only Bitcoins. It looks like I’ve got enough support to get to Florida already - thanks guys! I need more gas nodes between Florida and LA, so if you’re willing to sell me gas for bitcoins (or donate some for free), drop a pin on my map. I also set up a Couchsurfing profile - feel free to contact me on there if you’re interested in hosting me.

How do I buy something with Bitcoins from someone who has never heard of them?Clearly, the average Joe isn’t going to download the client and blockchain while I talk to them. Instead, I’m going to create preloaded mybitcoin.com accounts with varied denominations, and write the credentials on cards. Assuming I can convince the seller that I’m not trying to scam them, they can accept the cards for value.
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September 06, 2011, 02:29:24 AM
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This reporter also was aware of Plato's trip across the US and didn't know about mybitcoin.com. Maybe it's only odd to me. If I was a reporter, which I'm not, my first question would be, "How is he going to pay for stuff?"

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It’s been four days since I posted on the Bitcoin forums, announcing my plan to cross the US with only Bitcoins. It looks like I’ve got enough support to get to Florida already - thanks guys! I need more gas nodes between Florida and LA, so if you’re willing to sell me gas for bitcoins (or donate some for free), drop a pin on my map. I also set up a Couchsurfing profile - feel free to contact me on there if you’re interested in hosting me.

How do I buy something with Bitcoins from someone who has never heard of them?Clearly, the average Joe isn’t going to download the client and blockchain while I talk to them. Instead, I’m going to create preloaded mybitcoin.com accounts with varied denominations, and write the credentials on cards. Assuming I can convince the seller that I’m not trying to scam them, they can accept the cards for value.

To what reporter do you refer?

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September 06, 2011, 03:56:01 AM
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This reporter also was aware of Plato's trip across the US and didn't know about mybitcoin.com. Maybe it's only odd to me. If I was a reporter, which I'm not, my first question would be, "How is he going to pay for stuff?"

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It’s been four days since I posted on the Bitcoin forums, announcing my plan to cross the US with only Bitcoins. It looks like I’ve got enough support to get to Florida already - thanks guys! I need more gas nodes between Florida and LA, so if you’re willing to sell me gas for bitcoins (or donate some for free), drop a pin on my map. I also set up a Couchsurfing profile - feel free to contact me on there if you’re interested in hosting me.

How do I buy something with Bitcoins from someone who has never heard of them?Clearly, the average Joe isn’t going to download the client and blockchain while I talk to them. Instead, I’m going to create preloaded mybitcoin.com accounts with varied denominations, and write the credentials on cards. Assuming I can convince the seller that I’m not trying to scam them, they can accept the cards for value.

To what reporter do you refer?

I'm not gonna fall for the banana in the tailpipe trick. Let's just say that maybe I posted a link on this board a couple or so days ago. I can't believe all the PM's I've recieved to date.
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September 06, 2011, 05:17:03 AM
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Nite, all. Time to Nap, Purr & Rest.
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September 06, 2011, 05:39:23 AM
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This thread is really jumbled and very confusing.  Was anything actually discovered/confirmed?  Is Tom Williams = Bruce Wagnar?
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September 06, 2011, 12:02:15 PM
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This thread is really jumbled and very confusing.  Was anything actually discovered/confirmed?  Is Tom Williams = Bruce Wagnar?

I believe half the fun of this thread is taking the mass amounts of random information and concocting your own tale of the MyBitcoin Fiasco.

I am currently working on a site taking excerpts from this thread and putting in blanks for certain nouns, verbs, and adjectives so we can all have some MyBitcoin Mad Libs fun.

Honestly though, based on information from this thread, it would lead one to believe there is a decent connection with either Bruce or someone affiliated with Bruce, and a Tom Williams.

I would also say I think there is way more to this story than we will ever know, unknown parties that use guns and don't use the Internet.  But that theory will be in the second Mad Libs book, stay tuned.

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September 06, 2011, 02:18:38 PM
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On a recent podcast, Hiro White says he is long-term friends with the Mybitcoin guys.  That seems like a big, fat trail to follow.

PM, hiro@agoristradio.com or hiro@jabber.rayservers.com
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September 06, 2011, 03:21:49 PM
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On a recent podcast, Hiro White says he is long-term friends with the Mybitcoin guys.  That seems like a big, fat trail to follow.

PM, hiro@agoristradio.com or hiro@jabber.rayservers.com


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This thread is really jumbled and very confusing.

Perhaps, if I wasn't forking my investigation, and forking up, then maybe I would have this done by now.

I keep going back to http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/08/24/138673630/what-is-bitcoin (listen closely to the podcast) because I feel there's a nugget of gold to be found here.

As far as TW is concerned, last night I was trying to connect http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-help/2005-10/msg00008.html + Dr. Prepper + polarbeargarden + Freddie Mercury.

This morning, I've connected http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-help/2005-10/msg00008.html with Nvidia.






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September 06, 2011, 04:11:21 PM
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you know, i keep wanting to unsubscribe to this thread cuz a large part of me thinks you're a nut job.

but i just went back and reviewed that NPR podcast and the 25000 BTC on BW's computer has also bugged me ever since i heard about it.  anyone know what MyBitcoins total balance was at the top?

also the fact that there is a Tom Williams one relationship away from Bruce thru Serge G who signed up right after him seems a bit too coincidental as well. 
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September 06, 2011, 04:36:17 PM
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you know, i keep wanting to unsubscribe to this thread cuz a large part of me thinks you're a nut job.

but i just went back and reviewed that NPR podcast and the 25000 BTC on BW's computer has also bugged me ever since i heard about it.  anyone know what MyBitcoins total balance was at the top?

also the fact that there is a Tom Williams one relationship away from Bruce thru Serge G who signed up right after him seems a bit too coincidental as well.  

Trust me! I'm not a nut job, but the way I've presented this sure makes it look that way. Now, somebody tell me how JG didn't know about BW and MBC prior to GA telling him about them? The home page of bitcoin.org clearly linked to this forum back then when the investigative reporting on Bitcoin started. Look at the FB page. Out of all the suggestions, Bitcoin was picked for the story, yet didn't have a clue a main guy was only 10 blocks away. Yet, JG did a story on Yap back in December. http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/02/15/131934618/the-island-of-stone-money

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September 06, 2011, 04:57:08 PM
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I just listened to the PodCast for the umpteen. Would you say that DK and JG had a busy morning? First they spoke with GA, then went to BW's office, signed up to MBC, then wanted to know if using Bitcoin is legal (I would have done this step first), then conducted an interview with RM and felt relieved that it is after paying $40 to BW, then had lunch at MG. But, while eating the chicken platter, MBC gets robbed. Now that's the story NPR should cover.

I forgot to mention that somebody else posted about BW wanted to move Bitcoin away from MBC the day before.
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September 06, 2011, 06:48:33 PM
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Phinnaeus Gage: He's much less crazy than Bitrebel.  Grin
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September 06, 2011, 07:01:20 PM
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Phinnaeus Gage: He's much less crazy than Bitrebel.  Grin

Thank you, NF6X. BTW, I've almost completed the Freddy Mercury connection. Just a tad more poking.
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September 06, 2011, 07:04:35 PM
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Phinnaeus Gage: He's much less crazy than Bitrebel.  Grin

Thank you, NF6X. BTW, I've almost completed the Freddy Mercury connection. Just a tad more poking.

has anyone told you you talk cryptically?  why don't you just come out and say what you mean in plain English?  and what does NPR have to do with this?
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September 06, 2011, 07:50:34 PM
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Phinnaeus Gage: He's much less crazy than Bitrebel.  Grin

Thank you, NF6X. BTW, I've almost completed the Freddy Mercury connection. Just a tad more poking.

has anyone told you you talk cryptically?  why don't you just come out and say what you mean in plain English?  and what does NPR have to do with this?

There's an old saying: If you howler sheep to many times, the wolves when start to ignore you. That said, I just listened to this: http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=137795648&m=137803856 which is the extended interview. The previous one sited was hashed to pieces for a completely different broadcast. JG is not involved what-so-ever. I'm so glad I didn't site emails and full names. I sure the hell hope I don't get the same room that Bitrebel's in.
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September 07, 2011, 12:39:02 AM
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Phinnaeus Gage: He's much less crazy than Bitrebel.  Grin

Thank you, NF6X. BTW, I've almost completed the Freddy Mercury connection. Just a tad more poking.

has anyone told you you talk cryptically?  why don't you just come out and say what you mean in plain English?  and what does NPR have to do with this?

There's an old saying: If you howler sheep to many times, the wolves when start to ignore you. That said, I just listened to this: http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=137795648&m=137803856 which is the extended interview. The previous one sited was hashed to pieces for a completely different broadcast. JG is not involved what-so-ever. I'm so glad I didn't site emails and full names. I sure the hell hope I don't get the same room that Bitrebel's in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARIG-BQRATs

Good ol' Terence Mckenna. Peep the whole thing for some insight, neat part is at 0:32+ ;p

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September 07, 2011, 01:32:01 AM
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Phinnaeus Gage: He's much less crazy than Bitrebel.  Grin

Thank you, NF6X. BTW, I've almost completed the Freddy Mercury connection. Just a tad more poking.

has anyone told you you talk cryptically?  why don't you just come out and say what you mean in plain English?  and what does NPR have to do with this?

There's an old saying: If you howler sheep to many times, the wolves when start to ignore you. That said, I just listened to this: http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=137795648&m=137803856 which is the extended interview. The previous one sited was hashed to pieces for a completely different broadcast. JG is not involved what-so-ever. I'm so glad I didn't site emails and full names. I sure the hell hope I don't get the same room that Bitrebel's in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARIG-BQRATs

Good ol' Terence Mckenna. Peep the whole thing for some insight, neat part is at 0:32+ ;p

Thanks for the video, sadpandatech. That explains the morning glory seeds I've been finding in my coffee.

I just had a thought. I could sell bitcoinMGseeds by the bitbag. On the homepage of the website will be this morning glory. I'll state that once a day it opens up and reveals a Bitcoin. When you see it open, it means you've eaten to many seeds.



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September 07, 2011, 05:25:15 PM
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On a recent podcast, Hiro White says he is long-term friends with the Mybitcoin guys.  That seems like a big, fat trail to follow.

PM, hiro@agoristradio.com or hiro@jabber.rayservers.com


On 09/06/2011 09:15 AM, Angus Boyd wrote:
> Hello Hiro,
> you gave a podcast of great interest to a lot of people when you talked
> about your long-term friends at mybitcoin.  Who are these friends of
> yours?  A lot of people were wronged in that situation and they are
> quite understandably seeking answers. The bitcoin community has proven
> very resourceful at sorting out who is innocent and who is guilty, and
> pretty fair in how they deal with each.
>
> I hope you respond to this message with useful information.

Hello Angus. Stay tuned to future CoinBase episodes where I will talk
more of the subject.
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