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September 03, 2011, 12:11:52 PM
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September 03, 2011, 01:07:02 PM
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well you sure spin it like a wallstreeter, you take a small pool which you 1/4 of the GH yourself. dont think that skews the numbers a bit? And somehow I dont think you would have posted this if your pool didnt come on top.

well good advertising anyways, but like most advertising, it is 99% meaningless spin.


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September 03, 2011, 02:24:57 PM
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What constitutes a "smart" miner. Your link does not let me see the contents.

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September 03, 2011, 05:47:48 PM
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well you sure spin it like a wallstreeter, you take a small pool which you 1/4 of the GH yourself. dont think that skews the numbers a bit? And somehow I dont think you would have posted this if your pool didnt come on top.

well good advertising anyways, but like most advertising, it is 99% meaningless spin.

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September 03, 2011, 05:51:05 PM
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I've not read the link but are we talking about pools with a minimum of hoppers here? that I do like  Smiley
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September 03, 2011, 09:06:44 PM
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A "smart" miner is defined as someone with hashing power over 10GH/s  Roll Eyes

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Just because... (there are two separate points made here, not all are bolded)

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What Does Smart Money Mean?
Cash invested or wagered by those considered to be experienced, well-informed, "in-the-know" or all three. Although there is little empirical evidence to support the notion that smart-money investments perform any better than non-smart-money investments do, many speculation methods take such influxes of cash very seriously



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September 03, 2011, 10:45:13 PM
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Here is some data I have collected about an hour ago:

"smart miner" index:

deepbit - 0.04556
BTC Guild - 0.0975 (184/1967)
eligius - 0.024 (10/412)
slush* - no data
arsbitcoin - 0.29 (207/699)
bitcoins.lc - no data
BTC mine - 0.03 (10/331)
Mainframe MC* - 0.73 (180/244)
BitClockers*** - 0 (0/202)
Mt.Red - no data.

see details here: https://bitcoin.org.uk/forums/topic/176-which-bitcoin-mining-pools-attract-smart-miners/

vlad,  am I correct that the numbers in parentheses  are (number.miners.above.10G/total.miners)

if so,  btcmine only has 1 miner above 10.  Mainframe MC only has about 5, what am i missing here?

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September 03, 2011, 11:05:33 PM
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Correct me if i am wrong, but mmc is a hoppable pool no?
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September 03, 2011, 11:08:45 PM
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It's hashing power of 10GH+ miners / total hashing power . I should have been more clear on this in the post.

Also my data was taken at some particular time, and these things do tend to change over time, particularly for hopped pools.



I just want to make sure we have the data right.  I am the only miner at btcmine with over 10g.  I have been the only one since about the 20th of aug.

just pointed 2.1g at mainframe to check it out.  (5 vaporx rig).  those vaporX's are the best cards i think. run cool and hard.

oh,  no nobody will be at btcmine with over 10 Wink

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September 04, 2011, 12:13:37 AM
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Correct me if i am wrong, but mmc is a hoppable pool no?

Ill jump in here briefly to correct you.   

No its not.   We implemented PPLNS 1 week ago.  No longer hoppable.  Smiley
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September 04, 2011, 09:47:44 AM
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Im what you define as a non-smart-hopper, but that doesnt mean i like high powered miners screwing with my BTC.

Hoppers are for me mainly the whole reason i switched to a PPLNS pool. Hopped pools can be resolved from 'longer' blocks, but the short one s are totally screwed.

Any research into non-hopping is pretty much welcomed by me!

I'm PPLNS'ing @ RFCPOOL.com, need more GHashies!
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September 04, 2011, 09:53:13 AM
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anything changed recently at mainframe? coz when i tested the pools myself a couple of weeks ago mainframe was not in the top 5 best paying.

any "smart miners" would be testing the results themselves.

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September 04, 2011, 09:58:29 AM
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smart ones will bite a bullet when price crashes to $5, rest will just increase level of detail by turing crossfire on

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