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[hamiltino]

Its been many hours and the web server is still down? 

[Fuserleer]

It will continue to be until OB1 is ready, then we will bring the new servers up then.

OB1 is more important.

[jubalix]

It will continue to be until OB1 is ready, then we will bring the new servers up then.

OB1 is more important.

???what does this mean I though OB1 was compiled and ready for all to start using?

are the servers for hatchers is that why???

[Fuserleer]

No, just valuable time taken up today dealing the server failures.  Meant I wasn't able to work on getting OB1 ready.

[jubalix]

No, just valuable time taken up today dealing the server failures.  Meant I wasn't able to work on getting OB1 ready.

are the servers needed to run emunie, hatchers etc, can we go without them???

[Fuserleer]

No, those servers are nothing to do with the client, so we can run without them

But email is pretty crucial as that went down also today, so had to spend time on getting that up again before anything else.

[jubalix]

No, those servers are nothing to do with the client, so we can run without them

But email is pretty crucial as that went down also today, so had to spend time on getting that up again before anything else.

ok so client / servers needed for email at this time.....if I understand correctly.

any other functions, can we go without email?

e.g. its is OB1 so email may not have to function....

[Fuserleer]

nooo

I needed dan@emunie.com email....that email server died today along with the webserver.

the client doesnt rely on those at all

[mrvegad]

nooo

I needed dan@emunie.com email....that email server died today along with the webserver.

the client doesnt rely on those at all

So its your server's and not the web hosting server's that are down?

[Fuserleer]

See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=444723.0  

[Peachy]

Relevant.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=444723.new#new

[mrvegad]

So then they are your servers?

[Fuserleer]

I'm not sure I am following or getting your point (its been a long long day)

[mrvegad]

The servers that went down, do you physically own them or does a hosting company own them?

[Fuserleer]

one is mine and co-located the other is provided by them 

[mrvegad]

one is mine and co-located the other is provided by them 

Sorry, just making sure I understand what is happening:

Visin : "please don't spread lies. site is down, but not 'hacked'. we are working with the hosting provider now."

hamiltino asked :"Its been many hours and the web server is still down?"

Fuserleer replied: "It will continue to be until OB1 is ready, then we will bring the new servers up then.

OB1 is more important."

So I wasn't sure if the servers belonged to you or a hosting provider.

[jubalix]

nooo

I needed dan@emunie.com email....that email server died today along with the webserver.

the client doesnt rely on those at all

So its your server's and not the web hosting server's that are down?

so the dan@emunie.com, how does access to that stop the OB1 release?

there would be about 24hrs work left in OB1 max???

is that right?

[Fuserleer]

nooo

I needed dan@emunie.com email....that email server died today along with the webserver.

the client doesnt rely on those at all

So its your server's and not the web hosting server's that are down?

so the dan@emunie.com, how does access to that stop the OB1 release?

there would be about 24hrs work left in OB1 max???

is that right?

Because if people are emailing me and there is no mail serve, then it will not be delivered nor can I pick it up. So even if I can't reply right away, people will get pissed and it will give a bad impression/create FUD ammo.

So email functional was #1 priority at the time

[r0ach]

Since the emoney man is posting in this thread, I wonder if we could get a response to my post here about 100% proof of stake coins/IPOs.  I would mainly like you to address the parts bolded:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=443196.0

In the real world (I guess we are still in the real world on this forum), the entity who is closest to the creation of the money supply in the fractional reserve, fiat system benefits the most.  In other words, central bankers issue currency for profit.  People who establish IPOs and advertise for investment on the forum, are in effect, recreating the exact same system Bitcoin was designed to defeat.  Some might argue there's a difference because the systems are Austrian in nature, and not Keynesian, but there's really nothing that prevents them from using either method, so the difference is non-existent.

The normal Bitcoin protocol was not designed to be issued for profit, or to have a central issuing authority.  It was designed to be a trust free system where others work to acquire it through mining, and for any reward to be independent of the creator.  If one acknowledges the previous points as fact, you can clearly see that any IPO has absolutely no place on the forum in the context of money supply creation.  It is an evolution backwards in the technical domain of distribution, and in the ethics domain of corruption issues.

What's that you say?  You claim 100% proof of stake systems have benefits?  If you believe proof of stake is superior for coin dynamics and security, there's no reason you can't release a coin that uses normal PoW for distribution, then utilizes PoS entirely once all coins are mined.  The idea that an IPO is actually required to make 100% proof of stake work is an outright lie.  The term PoW/PoS hybrid exists for a reason and has already been accomplished.  If you wanted to be extremely lazy and have a proof of stake client entirely separate from the PoW client, you could always release a crap coin clone, have people mine it, then trade units of the crap coin for shares in the 100% PoS client coin.  Where does the need for an IPO fit into this anywhere?  It doesn't.  They should be banned.

[Fuserleer]

eMunie isn't a Proof of Stake implementation, nor does it use the BitCoin protocol, or have a fixed supply creation over time.....so I'm not sure how your argument applies comparing apples to oranges.

Or are you stating that eMunie shouldn't/doesn't need an IPO as an overall blanket categorization of crypto-currencies in general?  

If that is the case, as eMunie has a dynamic inflation/deflation model, which in turn uses reserves available that it and only it has control of to mitigate large peaks and troughs over short time scale, how would you propose that we provide those reserves to the system in the first place without having a distribution of eMu beforehand?

Furthermore, without an IPO, how do you propose that eMunie escapes the lowly sandpit that all crypto-currencies currently live, and actually make it before the eyes, and into the hands of the people that Satoshi originally intended for everyday use of BitCoin?

5 years have passed and BitCoin is no closer to being used for everyday purchases broadly across the globe than it was 2 years ago. It is firmly stuck in the sandpit of rampant speculation, selfishness and greed, as are other crypto-currencies, the magnitudes of which make the regular financial industry look tame on a per capital basis; alas because of this no party/parties are working collectively to inform and educate the man on the street to achieve that original goal.