Is Bitcoin part of the coming mark of the beast?

[edok]

I've thought about this. There are two characteristics that the biblical currency needs to have: 1. Controlled (like the dollar) and 2. Globally accepted (where bitcoin is going). So far no currencies qualify.

[solex]

I've thought about this. There are two characteristics that the biblical currency needs to have: 1. Controlled (like the dollar) and 2. Globally accepted (where bitcoin is going). So far no currencies qualify.

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[LostDutchman]

I've thought about this. There are two characteristics that the biblical currency needs to have: 1. Controlled (like the dollar) and 2. Globally accepted (where bitcoin is going). So far no currencies qualify.

A "biblical currency"?

WOO HOO!

My $.02.

[cobragt427]

I've thought about this. There are two characteristics that the biblical currency needs to have: 1. Controlled (like the dollar) and 2. Globally accepted (where bitcoin is going). So far no currencies qualify.

You are correct but fail to see how bitcoin is all of the above, just not fully shown for what it is. Globally accepted safe to say we all agree it is going/ almost achieved one world currency status. The first issue of control does not show it's ugly head until AFTER another "false flag terrorist" attack. It will be linked to BTC and will be used to create the outcry for control on BTC. Solution is take a single wallet address that is "tattoo" or injected in the right hand and access all BTC. This of course takes place after fiat is officially dead so choice of red pill or blue pill? Take the mark and be rich or deny the mark and be cut off from all buying selling and trading with the "civilized" mark accepting society. I tend to agree with the other theory that the DNA will also be attached with the SS# etc authenticating all transactions by biometric confirmations. We all see how fiat is controlled problem is most will not see how BTC is controlled and who really controls it until it is too late.
The feds murder people for MUCH LESS than taking away all their power and control of central banking/ fiat currency. NO WAY they are not in on this as they have already had several meetings to discuss BTC already. Do you REALLY think they would sit back and let it happen if it wasn't inevitably a trap?

[BBQminter]

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Bitcoin is nowhere near achieving the status you delusional nutjobs have convinced yourselves it has reached.  If anything, Bitcoin is receding in popularity, and will continue to do so as more people see the insane fantasyland most people involved with crypto believe they are living in.

I realize your desire-for-money receptors have forcibly disabled your logic centers, but come on...

[dstevens]

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please note that the 6 bar has a slightly thicker left side than the right where as the two thin lines are read as a blank

[BitChick]

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please note that the 6 bar has a slightly thicker left side than the right where as the two thin lines are read as a blank

What number on the barcode is the most similar to the spacing lines?  It looks more like a 6 than any other number though.

[Lloydie]

Hitler, Goebbels and Goring were willing to die for Nazism.

By your logic " It should prove that there is more to it though and at least be respected if you don't want to believe it."

It will be a great day for the world when humanity, if ever, realises that there is no need for made-up gods and superstition.

My $.02.

If there is no belief in an afterlife, then it is only logical to maximise the utility of this life. As the world we currently live in is finite, there will surely be insufficient resources. How will that be a great day for your descendants or for humanity?

Forgive my ignorance on how the other two names you mentioned may have been willing but I would like to correct you at least about Hitler and his being a coward who was NOT willing to die for his "belief" of nazism. You are intentionally deceiving people now, but I will keep giving you the truth over your lies. Hitler was a jew and a coward. By his own account he should have committed suicide the second he accepted nazism as by his own definition he was jewish. Contradiction 1. Secondly in regards to willing to die... lol I'm pretty sure only one of two events happened. Upon him losing the war he committed suicide like a little coward aka not willing to be tried publicly and die for what he believes in unlike believers of YHWH. Option 2 it was a double who he shot in the head while he escaped to look like a suicide EITHER WAY he was a coward and was NOT willing to die for what he believed in. Committing suicide as an escape to NOT be scrutinized for what you believe DOES NOT constitute Hitler was willing to die for what he believed.

It will be a great day for humanity when the world, which it will, will have to bow down and every tongue confess that there is YHWH, that he is love, and that he has loved us.

Please like I said before you and Obama can keep your "change" keep your $.02

The way that god demonstrates his love is through his people. By flaming (intentionally or otherwise) them you could be doing the opposite of god's intention. Let's be understanding and tolerant, even as god was forgiving of our sins.  In Jude, the archangel refused to condemn satan himself. The most that Michael would say is "may The Lord rebuke you." Therefore, let's be careful in calling anyone a coward, whether it is the truth or not. It is not our place to judge as humans on this planet.

[Lloydie]

(1) That should read "Ad Hominem", not "ad homonym".

(2) Although I consider most religious types to be batshit crazy, I did not call you any names; name calling being the basis for an AD HOMINEM claim, so you may put that one where the Sun doesn't shine, as it were.  Red Herring, maybe but certainly not "AD HOMINEM"!

Now, please allow me to digress and get full-bore AD HOMINEM on you so that you can see just how it is done!

I consider religious types to be superstitious, primitive in their thinking, possibly deranged to an astonishing degree and in need of therapy, medication or both.  Religious types have started more wars than anything but political types and there may be some doubt that politicians are ahead!

Religious typoes believe that "My god is better than your god!" so they advocate for killing non-believers in scroes, droves and millions!

Religious types tell us that their god is a "loving god", while their mouldy tomes tell us of the many, many occasions on which the so-called "loving god" has murdered by the gazillions.

In short, religious types represent the single greatest danger to the future of human kind and should be watched closely.

My $.02.

Yes. This is true. Religious types are guilty of many of those things you say. So how does one distinguish a religious person from a god fearing person?  The religious person attacks. The god fearing person is understanding. At the end, religion is a personal experience IMHO therefore there is no good in asserting the superiority of a personal faith.

You are also right about debates. I don't see how it is fruitful to have damaging debates over who is right because none of us truly know. We are all believers by faith. Who has actually seen god or heaven?

God is love but as mentioned before, god chooses those whom he loves and those whom he wishes to destroy. He is god and does as he wishes. Life is for him to give or takeaway. Even you yourself will choose what to accept and what you wish to discard.

God is infinite love but the law of sin and death still applies. If you wish to approach god, do so humbly with an attitude of reverence. God loves a humble spirit and he will knock down those who are arrogant by allowing them to become more arrogant and satisfied in their own thinking. He will cause them to be blind, so that their own actions condemn themselves. I pray to escape such a fate myself.

[Lloydie]

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please note that the 6 bar has a slightly thicker left side than the right where as the two thin lines are read as a blank

What number on the barcode is the most similar to the spacing lines?  It looks more like a 6 than any other number though.

Whatever is the case. No one can deny that it is now technologically feasible to satisfy revelations 13:17.  Where before we could use cash to avoid such a law, in a bitcoin protocol world, every single transaction can be tracked.

I suspect that control won't come from the protocol itself. The control will come from laws that implement scanners which require a private key plus ID proof (maybe fingerprint but eventually DNA). One reason for this could be to "prevent terrorism".

We are many years from that day but no one can deny that the technology exists today. Already I note that people are producing encrypted private keys using the grain of wood as the encoding mechanism. Soon it will be fingerprints then the next step is to use DNA.

[Lloydie]

So you think all Bible schools are the same?  I think that there are some very good ones out there.  I went to a Christian college and loved my Bible teachers.  They really challenged me to take off my American English speaking glasses that I wear and read the Bible for what it really says, not for what we see because of the world view we personally have.  My husband even learned Biblical Greek there so he could read the Bible for what it really says and better understand what the original manuscripts were trying to tell us.  So I think making blanket statements that "Bible School Contradicts the Bible" is a little extreme don't you?  There are some great ones out there.  Sure there are some that are not so good to but not all are the same.

But I agree that we do have to choose which master we work for.  Some people think that they only serve themselves, but that is the exactly what Satan wants and in doing so are serving him, perhaps ignorantly.

By your own admission yes I say all Bible schools contradict the bible. You say that they taught you to read it for what it is. Can I ask you a few questions? Do you wear tzitzit? Do you cover your head? Do you think the torah and the "new" testament are 2 books or all the bible is one? Do you believe in Yahoushua or do you still call him the blasphemous Zeus name of Je Zues? I only ask if "school" taught you anything about these things at all or conveniently ignored it all? do you celebrate blasphemous christmas and ishtar easter? All of these are encouraged by "bible"school. I don't think it's extreme that the bible is written in ancient pictograph and paleo hebrew while the new testament is written also in either hebrew or aramaic but yet "school" taught you greek is the original text (lies) and now your husband knows the language of idolatrous polytheistic philosophers who hate YHWH and his word and seek to "rationalize" him out of existence and making doctrines of men over the word of YHWH.

The lie of getting you to learn greek the helenistic people who are responsible for destroying the Torah and YHWH's word while getting you to worship zues on the day of sun while deceiving you and hiding behind the YHWH of the bible is more than enough evidence for me to boldly say with all authority that yes ALL Bible schools contradict the bible as the rouch ha kodesh is our teacher and Yahoushua says no man is over another yet "school" has it's system of man's authority that cares about titles degrees and stature instead of truth of YHWH.
Are you starting to see any contradictions yet? Also what fruit do these schools produce. People like Meelvanchris who went there and learned from contradicting men that somehow YWHW contradicted himself? Or you and your husband who believe greek has to do with YHWH when his kadosh tongue is hebrew? aleph beyt vs alphabet.

As you yourself know, all the Ten Commandments are encompassed by the first two. Why complicate matters with schools, head covering and language? Your way is not the only way.

Love your God and your neighbour, these are the greatest of all commands. The son of god fulfilled these commands.

Let's be clear that god has the power to create new covenants. It is not for man to limit god. Also, let's be honest and acknowledge that the house of Israel has failed to abide by the laws handed down to them.

I see no problems with the concept of a living sacrifice. I see it is as an ongoing solution to an ongoing problem.

[cobragt427]

Lloydie is spot on. 100% agreed accept it's not a new covenant it was the exact same covenant from Genesis at the fall he prophesied the redemption and his overcoming Satan and the world of sin.
Other than that I don't follow my own way but I follow YHWH's way. We are each to find our way to do that, but I must go as it is now Sabbath. Shabbot Shalom.

[LostDutchman]

I think I'll go out and sacrifice a goat or maybe a chicken.

[Lloydie]

I think I'll go out and sacrifice a goat or maybe a chicken.

That's part of it. But first we are required to purify ourselves. Then we require a priest from the Levites to intercede on our behalf. Even then the sacrifice is not perfect. Just FYI.

[LostDutchman]

I think I'll go out and sacrifice a goat or maybe a chicken.

That's part of it. But first we are required to purify ourselves. Then we require a priest from the Levites to intercede on our behalf. Even then the sacrifice is not perfect. Just FYI.

We chose a chicken but rather than just burn it up on the altar of sacrifice, we basted it, put it on the grille, cooked it up nicely, after which we served it up with salad, chips and beer.

[Lloydie]

We chose a chicken but rather than just burn it up on the altar of sacrifice, we basted it, put it on the grille, cooked it up nicely, after which we served it up with salad, chips and beer.

Fair enough. Enjoy this life as much as you can. It is only logical. After the meal, one finds hunger again not long after. There is a time for everything. Unfortunately, man's days on earth are numbered. Who has managed to avoid death?

[LostDutchman]

We chose a chicken but rather than just burn it up on the altar of sacrifice, we basted it, put it on the grille, cooked it up nicely, after which we served it up with salad, chips and beer.

Fair enough. Enjoy this life as much as you can. It is only logical. After the meal, one finds hunger again not long after. There is a time for everything. Unfortunately, man's days on earth are numbered. Who has managed to avoid death?

Well, no one avoids death but that's not what we're writing about.

Hey, one of the folks at the BBQ today suggested that for next Shabbot, instead of goat or chicken, we round up some Long Pig.  Said Long Pig is a traditional sacrifice in many religious community, including Judaism and Christianity but I've not heard of it.

Long Pig, that is.

Can you help me out?

[Lloydie]

Well, no one avoids death but that's not what we're writing about.

Hey, one of the folks at the BBQ today suggested that for next Shabbot, instead of goat or chicken, we round up some Long Pig.  Said Long Pig is a traditional sacrifice in many religious community, including Judaism and Christianity but I've not heard of it.

Long Pig, that is.

Can you help me out?

Well some think of their immediate needs whilst others of things beyond. Some fill their stomachs without dealing with the emptiness of the soul. There is more to this world than just satisfying our earthly needs. For those that seek, they shall find. Yet others consume in accordance with their desires. If that is you, so be it. On the day of judgement all will be held to account for every action and every word. If you think, you are provoking me then that is not correct. You seek to hurt but instead I pray that god will have mercy on you. As to Long Pig, that is an evil that should not be mentioned. By your own actions you demonstrate to everyone the workings of your mind.

How is the world a better place without god and even religion? Will it be filled with people like you? What is to say that what you do is right or wrong? Who is to judge that? Will you expose the evil of Long Pig to your children and grandchildren? What gives you the right to do that to others? You criticise god fearing people for extremism, yet three fingers point back at you.

[cobragt427]

Well, no one avoids death but that's not what we're writing about.

Hey, one of the folks at the BBQ today suggested that for next Shabbot, instead of goat or chicken, we round up some Long Pig.  Said Long Pig is a traditional sacrifice in many religious community, including Judaism and Christianity but I've not heard of it.

Long Pig, that is.

Can you help me out?

Well some think of their immediate needs whilst others of things beyond. Some fill their stomachs without dealing with the emptiness of the soul. There is more to this world than just satisfying our earthly needs. For those that seek, they shall find. Yet others consume in accordance with their desires. If that is you, so be it. On the day of judgement all will be held to account for every action and every word. If you think, you are provoking me then that is not correct. You seek to hurt but instead I pray that god will have mercy on you. As to Long Pig, that is an evil that should not be mentioned. By your own actions you demonstrate to everyone the workings of your mind.

How is the world a better place without god and even religion? Will it be filled with people like you? What is to say that what you do is right or wrong? Who is to judge that? Will you expose the evil of Long Pig to your children and grandchildren? What gives you the right to do that to others? You criticise god fearing people for extremism, yet three fingers point back at you.

^^^^ THIS with the exception of long pig. I don't know what it is but based on the previous comments from that person I'm sure it has nothing to do with YHWH or his followers. Probably another ad hominem but I'm not looking it up to know for sure.

[dstevens]

Whatever is the case. No one can deny that it is now technologically feasible to satisfy revelations 13:17.  Where before we could use cash to avoid such a law, in a bitcoin protocol world, every single transaction can be tracked.

I suspect that control won't come from the protocol itself. The control will come from laws that implement scanners which require a private key plus ID proof (maybe fingerprint but eventually DNA). One reason for this could be to "prevent terrorism".

We are many years from that day but no one can deny that the technology exists today. Already I note that people are producing encrypted private keys using the grain of wood as the encoding mechanism. Soon it will be fingerprints then the next step is to use DNA.

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your assuming that all other currencies are rejected worldwide and bitcoin emerges the dominant and sole means of currency with that.... which i really dont think is that likely as long as there is real and solid GOLD SILVER AND OTHER PRECIOUS METALS available on the planet.