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May 22, 2018, 06:00:03 AM Last edit: June 10, 2018, 05:08:07 AM by pkmoney Merited by TMAN (5), yogg (3), Vod (2), aysg76 (2), bill gator (1), funsponge (1), rattle99 (1) |
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"I don't mind if a newbie posts like this but someone with ranked "Hero Member" is not acceptable at all.
Have a look on this guy- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=903739;sa=showPosts
All most every of his/her post is limited within a few characters and he/she doesn't know how to write english correctly.
I don't know whether there is any thread dedicated to Shit Poster Would appreciate to have the link of that thread."Planning to create a childthread for this list in which I will list only Full Member as you can see a lot of full members have been included in the list. What's your thoughts on it? Last Added - 10th June 2018- Full Member - Dazedconfused11Total Findings= 222 Legendary 3 Hero Member 2 Sr Member 15 Full Member Spammers, Shitposters List by Welsh- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2832305.msg29034329#msg29034329Newbies can never get high rank with shitposting. This thread is for those who got higher rank (Full Member or Above) before the merit system. I strongly believe that this thread will help all the people who want a spam free forum. Bounty managers can also utilize this thread for preventing low quality applicants.You can suggest below if you find any shitposter. I will merit (depend on availability ) your post if you can suggest a shitposter here.Current Spendable merit- 4
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actmyname
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May 22, 2018, 06:01:44 AM |
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Should be banned. Useless oneliner posts that are made within minutes of one another add nothing to the forum. And someone that posts only those kinds of replies is not someone that is good for the forum.
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LogitechMouse
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May 22, 2018, 10:12:03 AM |
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Should be banned. Useless oneliner posts that are made within minutes of one another add nothing to the forum. And someone that posts only those kinds of replies is not someone that is good for the forum.
Its a shame for that user to have a high rank and yet, he is posting one liner shit posts. Maybe he can be negged or banned for shitposting. I saw some users who have negative trust here because of shitposting. They don't contribute to the forum
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yogg
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May 22, 2018, 11:36:52 AM |
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These posts add absolutely nothing to the forum, even worse, they have to be stored in a database, consuming resources .. When all shit posts adds up, I bet this gives crazy numbers. I have left a feedback.
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pawel7777
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May 22, 2018, 12:02:34 PM |
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He's wearing eterbank signature. Gee, I wonder if their signature campaign rules have anything to do with his posting behaviour: At least 10 post per week are required in bitcointalk forum, only constructive posts count (but we won’t be rigorous in our evaluation). https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3249010.0
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pkmoney (OP)
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May 22, 2018, 01:32:59 PM |
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He's wearing eterbank signature. Gee, I wonder if their signature campaign rules have anything to do with his posting behaviour: At least 10 post per week are required in bitcointalk forum, only constructive posts count (but we won’t be rigorous in our evaluation). https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3249010.0They will not be rigorous? So, they are encouraging shit poster. This is ridiculous.
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May 23, 2018, 10:42:53 AM |
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This is one of the very few reason why merit is not pleasing to the eyes of the newbies, and/or members that are about to rank up. Pretty sure if merit was implemented from the very start, one wouldn't really post like this. At least if you want a merit that is.
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May 25, 2018, 02:55:08 AM Last edit: May 25, 2018, 09:02:48 AM by HCP |
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I'm sure it has probably been mentioned on a Meta thread somewhere... But perhaps we need some rules (guidelines?) governing the running of campaigns... Especially ones that "pay to post". Having said that, is there actually a way to make campaign managers more accountable for the output of their campaign participants? If there are viable solutions... should we make them (the managers) accountable? Or should we simply continue to name and shame the users who are shitposting?
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pkmoney (OP)
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May 25, 2018, 03:29:04 AM |
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This is one of the very few reason why merit is not pleasing to the eyes of the newbies, and/or members that are about to rank up. Pretty sure if merit was implemented from the very start, one wouldn't really post like this. At least if you want a merit that is.
Is merit the only thing for which we are trying to post quality contents? Of course, no. It's a matter of the standard of our community.
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May 25, 2018, 05:54:17 AM |
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He's wearing eterbank signature. Gee, I wonder if their signature campaign rules have anything to do with his posting behaviour: [quote ]At least 10 post per week are required in bitcointalk forum, only constructive posts count (but we won’t be rigorous in our evaluation).https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3249010.0I can't imagine I just read that as a requirement for a campaign and to imagine that a manager would pay for such a participant is what is even more disgusting. Reading through is posts, just show some people are not willing to learn or change to add value. I don't see anything stopping him from just contributing but I guess its going to be a bought account. I have known about shit posters but Hero Member is way out of it and should be discouraged not only him but the manager of the campaign. The problem I see here is not the minimum amount to post at all, I have seen someone made over 80 posts in a week and not one was spam. Short, concise, straight to the point and meaningful at that.
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May 25, 2018, 06:04:19 AM |
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I'm sure it has probably been mentioned on a Metal thread somewhere... But perhaps we need some rules (guidelines?) governing the running of campaigns... Especially ones that "pay to post". Having said that, is there actually a way to make campaign managers more accountable for the output of their campaign participants? If there are viable solutions... should we make them (the managers) accountable? Or should we simply continue to name and shame the users who are shitposting? There's really only two ways to prevent the current abuse. Either, we tackle the issue by imposing guidelines/rules that are enforced by the staff members or we take things into our own hands, and tag campaign managers. I feel like the first suggestion would be the best, and the second suggestion wouldn't likely affect them as the people who hire them don't really care about the quality of the campaign, and only getting their name out there. I'm not sure what theymos thinks about tackling the abuse via moderation, but I imagine he will treat it the same as spam. Although, I would argue that they are offering an incentive for bad quality posts, and therefore are the same as threads offering an incentive just on a much wider scale.
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Cobalt9317
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May 25, 2018, 01:40:44 PM |
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Like what I'm talking to it really stands out see? emoticon of laughing but there's nothing funny about the post if you read it comprehensively. I can barely understand what s/he means but I reckon it's generally about bitcoin and price volatity of it.
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bill gator
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May 25, 2018, 01:46:46 PM |
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You should maintain this list and make little improvements here and there. There would be a lot of utility in a community compiled list of high-ranking shitposters. At the very least we could attempt to reform the users that are not acting maliciously through gentle suggestion. The users that have gone unseen by DT members that are acting maliciously can get tagged, bagged and snagged. The first suggestion that pops into my head would be placing their usernames somewhere within your OP. Creating a table might be useful, but simply adding the usernames attached would be helpful. I want an easy way to read through the list, especially once it becomes filled with more users. I've placed this thread on my Watchlist, will definitely poke my head in here if I come across anyone to suggest and it'll be interesting to see how it develops.
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pkmoney (OP)
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May 25, 2018, 03:03:22 PM |
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You should maintain this list and make little improvements here and there. There would be a lot of utility in a community compiled list of high-ranking shitposters. At the very least we could attempt to reform the users that are not acting maliciously through gentle suggestion. The users that have gone unseen by DT members that are acting maliciously can get tagged, bagged and snagged. The first suggestion that pops into my head would be placing their usernames somewhere within your OP. Creating a table might be useful, but simply adding the usernames attached would be helpful. I want an easy way to read through the list, especially once it becomes filled with more users. I've placed this thread on my Watchlist, will definitely poke my head in here if I come across anyone to suggest and it'll be interesting to see how it develops.
I will update if I find any, of course. I always keep an eye on high ranked user in any thread. On my phone now, it's little hard to form it as a good looking one. Will reform the list when I will be on my computer.
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May 25, 2018, 10:24:44 PM |
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If you want I've got a list here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2832305.msg29034329#msg29034329You can manually check them, and see if you want to add any of them to your list if you are going to be updating it regularly as I'm finding it difficult to keep regular updates due to the fact I'll only ever add users to that list with archive evidence which can be extremely tedious to do. Especially formatting it all. So feel free to use any of them on that list as I'm only going to be aiming to update every now, and then. Here you go have a free legendary member to add to the list: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=357163
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digaran
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May 26, 2018, 01:18:45 AM |
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These posts add absolutely nothing to the forum, even worse, they have to be stored in a database, consuming resources .. When all shit posts adds up, I bet this gives crazy numbers. I have left a feedback.
Did he scam you? otherwise you shouldn't tag anybody for "shitposting" only you could tag them temporarily and then remove it after a while. keep at it yogg, DT2 slave tag is upon you especially after you tagged me. FortunJack signature: check. Talking shit to digaran: check. Green trust member: check. Fighting shitposters like a DT2 wannabe: check. Now that you are going to tag people for this, you should tag all the shitposters.
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pkmoney (OP)
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May 26, 2018, 09:21:25 AM |
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Creating a table might be useful, but simply adding the usernames attached would be helpful.
Created a table with username, link of profile and posts. Forgot adding another column with Tagged. In that column, i will ensure whether listed person is tagged by someone or not.
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Heisenberg_Hunter
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May 27, 2018, 11:23:02 AM Last edit: May 29, 2018, 07:05:17 PM by Heisenberg_Hunter |
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bill gator
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May 27, 2018, 01:01:05 PM |
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I like the new formatting, OP, it makes it much easier to read your thread. I know it takes a lot of work, and I've been overwhelmed by simple formatting in the past, but it certainly is worth it. Can I ask why certain usernames are bold? I would think that the merit abusers might be the better candidates to have their names written in bold, but you may already have a reasoning for this. Tables often are accompanies by legends. Merit should have been implemented in Jan of 2017. Almost all the sr. and full member shitposters have registered during 2017.
Hindsight certainly is 20/20, isn't it? Formatting certainly does get tedious, and once you've given it a try you can appreciate all of the effort that goes into certain threads being maintained. The way you formatted the start of your post is solid.
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pkmoney (OP)
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May 27, 2018, 02:03:19 PM |
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How to find a shitposter easily :
1. Visit Alternate cryptocurrencies > Altcoin Discussion 2. Go to any spam-megathread which has 1k+ replies for shit questions 3. Visit the last 50-100 pages. Almost all the accounts have 1-liner - 2-liner posts
I will have a look and of course, I will find out and most of them will be listed here. But it will take time. Also, I don't have enough time to spend with my laptop. Most of the time, I spend my time here from my mobile. Can I ask why certain usernames are bold? I would think that the merit abusers might be the better candidates to have their names written in bold, but you may already have a reasoning for this.
It was a bug I thought to bold the whole list but later, I changed my mind. But from now, usernames with bold will be an indicator of abusing merit.
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I think you will find that this list will become increasingly filled with Full Members, maybe more so than you'd be willing to keep track of. When this happens, it might be a good idea (or maybe even now) to switch the thread to only list Sr. Member and above, so that you do not overwhelm yourself with the sheer amount of Full Members you are bound to come across that fit your criteria. If you can keep up with it, then by all means, keep it going, but I would like to see someone from DT or a moderator putting this list to solid use; maybe once it becomes more extensive that might be the case.
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I'm sure it has probably been mentioned on a Meta thread somewhere... But perhaps we need some rules (guidelines?) governing the running of campaigns... Especially ones that "pay to post". Having said that, is there actually a way to make campaign managers more accountable for the output of their campaign participants? If there are viable solutions... should we make them (the managers) accountable? Or should we simply continue to name and shame the users who are shitposting? I don't think it's necessarily the pay-for-post aspect of campaigns (though that certainly contributes to the problem) but lax campaign management and not enough rules put in place for the participants. I don't think managers are checking posts manually for length OR quality, and I seriously doubt whether many of these altcoin bounty managers even have the language skills necessary to properly evaluate quality posts. From what I've seen, a lot of them are just as ignorant as the shitposters are. I would love it if all campaigns were like Chipmixer, only accepting people who've proven themselves to NOT be shitposters, not enforcing a minimum number of posts per week or minimum character lengths. Unfortunately if all campaigns were like them, there wouldn't be enough applicants to fill them.
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May 28, 2018, 09:33:49 AM |
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How are you managing the list by formatting the links? It may consume a lot of time
P.S : Merit should have been implemented in Jan of 2017. Almost all the sr. and full member shitposters have registered during 2017.
Finding them is the easy part, but archiving their posts, and then formatting that is very tedious. It's why the list hasn't been updated as much as I would like. I've still got a load of accounts in a text document that need reviewing, archiving and then finally put on the list. I would do it without the archive bit, but I like to provide evidence where ever possible.
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Heisenberg_Hunter
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May 28, 2018, 03:00:04 PM |
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Hindsight certainly is 20/20, isn't it?
Yes. Some possible suggestions which can prevent the generation of spam to large extent 1. If the creation of topic in Altcoin Discussion and Bitcoin Discussion is restricted to Newbies-Members it would prevent almost huge spam generated in the boards. Yes, it would be difficult for a newbie if he signs up in the forum for getting an assistance to restore his lost keys or coins. There is a separate section in Bitcoin board for Technical Support, so a newbie who needs an assistance for his btc can post there. A creation of separate board for Altcoin Technical Support may solve the problem in Altcoin Section for newbies. 2. Locking of shit topics if it reaches 500-750+ replies. Its really good to see that Mods respond to the locking of mega-spam threads. I myself has successfully reported around 5-10 topics which was locked by mprep and hilariousandco. I don't think managers are checking posts manually for length OR quality, and I seriously doubt whether many of these altcoin bounty managers even have the language skills necessary to properly evaluate quality posts. From what I've seen, a lot of them are just as ignorant as the shitposters are.
If almost all the Altcoin bounty managers were like ALU team, it would force members to post at least 2-3 lines of replies related to topic. Tagging alt account are becoming worthless nowadays, I frequently see some of the campaigns are accepting Negative Trust accounts These members are participating along with their alts. P.S : OP is your's a bought account? Archived for reference You were suddenly active after 4 years of inactivity (May 06,2014- May 06,2018)
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pkmoney (OP)
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May 28, 2018, 03:34:57 PM Last edit: May 29, 2018, 07:10:46 AM by pkmoney |
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P.S : OP is your's a bought account? Archived for reference You were suddenly active after 4 years of inactivity (May 06,2014- May 06,2018) It's really suspicious I was out of virtual life for this period as I had to spend most of my time for my study, specially struggling with managing my fees. BTW, Why I would buy a "Member" ranked id while I need merit for higher rank. Make sense? I think you will find that this list will become increasingly filled with Full Members, maybe more so than you'd be willing to keep track of. When this happens, it might be a good idea (or maybe even now) to switch the thread to only list Sr. Member and above, so that you do not overwhelm yourself with the sheer amount of Full Members you are bound to come across that fit your criteria. If you can keep up with it, then by all means, keep it going, but I would like to see someone from DT or a moderator putting this list to solid use; maybe once it becomes more extensive that might be the case.
From your suggestion, I have come up with a decision. I want to keep track of all the members rank with Full member or above. That's why I will split the thread by creating 3 more new threads where I will list Full Member, Sr Member, Hero Member, Legendary separately. I hope this will help me to manage the list easily. Don't know whether this list will help anyone else or not, but it will help the bounty managers who are conscious of our forum standard.
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pkmoney (OP)
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June 05, 2018, 10:57:45 AM |
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1.Planning to create a childthread for this list in which I will list only Full Member as you can see a lot of full members have been included in the list.
2. Also I want to create a column in which I will list whether the listed person get tagged or not.
3. Will do a merit giveaway.
What's your thoughts on it? I would appreciate to hear.
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June 05, 2018, 11:02:46 AM |
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1.Planning to create a childthread for this list in which I will list only Full Member as you can see a lot of full members
How about doing a spreadsheet, it's probably easier if the list is getting too long.
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June 05, 2018, 11:24:55 AM |
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1.Planning to create a childthread for this list in which I will list only Full Member as you can see a lot of full members
How about doing a spreadsheet, it's probably easier if the list is getting too long. List is getting too long of course. Don't know whether people will have eyes on the spreadsheet or not. I will create one. Seems spreadsheet will be easier to handle.
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June 06, 2018, 07:31:55 PM |
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How can a shit poster gets bounty campaign! I have no idea. They are destroying good managers reputation.
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pkmoney (OP)
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June 07, 2018, 06:50:56 AM |
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How can a shit poster gets bounty campaign! I have no idea. They are destroying good managers reputation. Because most of the bounty managers doesn't check the posts. They only count the posts. Also, it is not possible to check one by one. However, we do have some serious bounty managers who take care of those shitposters.
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June 07, 2018, 09:11:20 AM |
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How are you managing the list by formatting the links? It may consume a lot of time
P.S : Merit should have been implemented in Jan of 2017. Almost all the sr. and full member shitposters have registered during 2017.
Finding them is the easy part, but archiving their posts, and then formatting that is very tedious. It's why the list hasn't been updated as much as I would like. I've still got a load of accounts in a text document that need reviewing, archiving and then finally put on the list. I would do it without the archive bit, but I like to provide evidence where ever possible. I think that archiving their post history is the best way to go, as you will efficiently archived 20 posts per archived page of the user. The user UID will also be shown on the original link which will quickly identify the alleged spammer as well. You must also double check if there accounts are also blacklisted in the SMAS blacklist or not, it will save you a lot of time in skipping some of this names.
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June 07, 2018, 12:43:46 PM |
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Random thought : In the title, it says that you have updated this thread 05/06/18 and this is a bit misleading. Maybe it might be more effective to simple state the month outright June 5th, 2018 or even 5th June, 2018. The way it is currently, makes me as an American, read it as though it hasn't been updated for over a month. We write our dates differently, might give some people the impression that you don't maintain the thread and discourage them from taking place in it.
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June 07, 2018, 01:16:31 PM |
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Random thought : In the title, it says that you have updated this thread 05/06/18 and this is a bit misleading. Maybe it might be more effective to simple state the month outright June 5th, 2018 or even 5th June, 2018. The way it is currently, makes me as an American, read it as though it hasn't been updated for over a month. We write our dates differently, might give some people the impression that you don't maintain the thread and discourage them from taking place in it.
Thanks for pointing out it. I have corrected it. I had written in that way because of the limitation of characters. Now I have fixed it in another way.
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June 08, 2018, 06:59:16 AM Last edit: June 11, 2018, 07:02:27 PM by Heisenberg_Hunter |
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June 10, 2018, 08:55:19 PM Last edit: June 10, 2018, 09:34:34 PM by Jannat76 |
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How to find a shitposter easily :
You can also get it from the local language Thread
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