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January 12, 2014, 09:41:47 PM
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I doubt he even had any coins to begin with. That whole story smelt fishy to me.

Were you reading the story near a fish market by any chance?

Yeah I suppose that anybody could come up with that cock and bull story for the media attention. Did you see the forum post (don't think that it was here) supposedly by the person who supposedly threw away this supposed hard drive, he was trying to raise funds to find the hard drive.

IIRC it was something along the lines of:

Give me 1 BTC and you will get 25 BTC back in return when I find the hard drive.

ScamCity or what haha.

Nope  lol. Was it by the guy who claimed to have lost them or someone impersonating him to try cash in on idiots? I'm guessing the latter.
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January 12, 2014, 09:45:23 PM
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Time is not linear, we only live in the present. 

Of course time is linear - it only moves in one direction.

I'd love to hear scientific reasoning (even one born out of insanity) of how you think time could move backwards.

Humans invented time by measuring how many times a certain atom vibrates in a certain amount of time.  Vibrates back and forth.  If you were to reverse time, the atom would still vibrate the same way - back and forth- and be indistinguishable from it's forward motion.  In other words, we measure time going forward (so many vibrations) regardless the way the flow of time travels.  So we can never move backwards in time.  Ever.

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January 12, 2014, 09:53:06 PM
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Humans invented time by measuring how many times a certain atom vibrates in a certain amount of time.

Yo dawg, I herd you like time.

I'm guessing that the usages of time refer to two different notions? It's all starting to get a little Inception to me.

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January 12, 2014, 09:58:22 PM
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Time is not linear, we only live in the present. 

Of course time is linear - it only moves in one direction.

I'd love to hear scientific reasoning (even one born out of insanity) of how you think time could move backwards.

Humans invented time by measuring how many times a certain atom vibrates in a certain amount of time.  Vibrates back and forth.  If you were to reverse time, the atom would still vibrate the same way - back and forth- and be indistinguishable from it's forward motion.  In other words, we measure time going forward (so many vibrations) regardless the way the flow of time travels.  So we can never move backwards in time.  Ever.

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Time does not move.  Time does not exist.  We perceive it to exist because we measure changes in revolutions around our sun or another cyclic pattern.  Time is a measurement of change, we can perceive it's presence, but it is not a thing.  Like you said, humans invented time as a way of perception.

So time cannot move backwards, for it cannot move forwards either.  You can only exist in the present moment.  Though this does not mean you can not visit a dimension exactly the same as the past.

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January 12, 2014, 10:06:04 PM
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You can only exist in the present moment.

So we are arguing the same thing - time travel is not possible.

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January 12, 2014, 10:13:54 PM
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You can only exist in the present moment.

So we are arguing the same thing - time travel is not possible.

Lol, time travel isn't possible. Sure it's theoretically possible, but not actually possible.
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January 12, 2014, 10:16:31 PM
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No, you are misinterpreting my words.  You can only exist in the present moment though you can manifest anything in that moment.  Thoughts, dreams, or even reality can shift completely to a moment in the past.

We live in an infinite universe with infinite dimensions.  Everything that has ever happened and everything that will happen is all happening right now, everywhere.  It's up to you to tune your mind to experience these other dimensions.

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January 12, 2014, 10:18:34 PM
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Well, time to (re)post my favorite time travel comic:


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January 12, 2014, 11:24:40 PM
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Why rent, when you could pre-order.

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January 12, 2014, 11:37:13 PM
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There was a documentary I was watching about this scientist who mathematically proved that his time machine would work. The only flaw with it is that if we turned it on now, we could only send stuff back to when it was turned on (as a maximum limit) , which is good enough I guess, because you could probably send future mining tech back in time. But then that'll alter that dimension and yeah...

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January 13, 2014, 12:47:34 AM
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Humans invented time by measuring how many times a certain atom vibrates in a certain amount of time.

Yo dawg, I herd you like time.

I'm guessing that the usages of time refer to two different notions? It's all starting to get a little Inception to me.

D'oh.  I posted the bold part in a hurry - obviously it is a circular reference.

"Humans invented time by taking a number of vibrations from a certain atom and calling that one second." would have been a better thing to say.   Wink

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January 13, 2014, 01:24:13 AM
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"WHAT DO WE WANT!!"

"A TIME MACHINE!!"

"WHEN DO WE WANT IT?"

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January 13, 2014, 01:25:43 AM
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Travel back to 2011, buy £1500 in BTC and exchange it back in modern day.

Millionaire!

I'd go back to 2009 and mine for a week with my 4 Block Erupters. Cheesy
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January 13, 2014, 01:32:18 AM
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I'd go back to 2009 and mine for a week with my 4 Block Erupters. Cheesy

Chances are the creator would have noticed the >50% usage on one node, realized it was a flawed concept, and discontinued development.   Undecided

The fact that it grew slowly, under the radar, is paramount to why it succeeded. 

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January 13, 2014, 01:39:56 AM
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I doubt he even had any coins to begin with. That whole story smelt fishy to me.

Were you reading the story near a fish market by any chance?

Yeah I suppose that anybody could come up with that cock and bull story for the media attention. Did you see the forum post (don't think that it was here) supposedly by the person who supposedly threw away this supposed hard drive, he was trying to raise funds to find the hard drive.

IIRC it was something along the lines of:

Give me 1 BTC and you will get 25 BTC back in return when I find the hard drive.

ScamCity or what haha.

Nope  lol. Was it by the guy who claimed to have lost them or someone impersonating him to try cash in on idiots? I'm guessing the latter.

I believe it to be the latter, but either way the premise of the offer seems utterly ridiculous. He essentially planned on giving it all away upon finding it. I would be highly surprised if anybody took him up on the offer, but then again, there are more than enough idiots around to take the bait.

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January 13, 2014, 01:41:34 AM
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Humans invented time by measuring how many times a certain atom vibrates in a certain amount of time.

Yo dawg, I herd you like time.

I'm guessing that the usages of time refer to two different notions? It's all starting to get a little Inception to me.

D'oh.  I posted the bold part in a hurry - obviously it is a circular reference.

"Humans invented time by taking a number of vibrations from a certain atom and calling that one second." would have been a better thing to say.   Wink

Haha yeah, that makes much more sense Tongue I do enjoy a good circular reference; hoop, ring, roundabout being among my favourites Wink

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January 13, 2014, 01:43:48 AM
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well if I were able to rent it, I'll never return it and I can be anything I want Grin

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January 13, 2014, 01:49:01 AM
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Causality loops are inherently unstable. It might be possible to reach a self-sustaining state, but odds are it will eventually come to rest into a state where time-travel never happened, because that is the stablest of them all.

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January 13, 2014, 01:49:59 AM
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I'd go back to 2009 and mine for a week with my 4 Block Erupters. Cheesy

Chances are the creator would have noticed the >50% usage on one node, realized it was a flawed concept, and discontinued development.   Undecided

The fact that it grew slowly, under the radar, is paramount to why it succeeded. 

You may be right. Satoshi was after all concerned about Wikileaks accepting Bitcoin.

Oh well, I could still have earned a ton of money in 2011. There were miners with 5 GH/s rigs back then. 1.3 GH/s wouldn't have been too out of place back then.

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January 13, 2014, 02:05:25 AM
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Causality loops are inherently unstable. It might be possible to reach a self-sustaining state, but odds are it will eventually come to rest into a state where time-travel never happened, because that is the stablest of them all.

Now that i'm thinking a bit more about it, it's pretty much indistinguishable from traveling into the past of a parallel reality; except that your presence there pretty much guarantee's that your double will never do that time travel.




The only time travel that won't screw with paradoxes (other than going to the future), is to travel faster than light; that way you can look back from the destination and see you leaving at the origin, but your arrival is still in the future of the origin.

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