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September 05, 2011, 02:44:33 PM
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hi jackjack

i like your fork very much - and i think its a good thing that you did not fork the blockchain.

BUT: CoinHunter,RealSolid and OldMiner are really bad for bitcoin (and for solidcoin in the longterm); as they are continuing to tell anybody how bad bitcoin is (they just dont realize that people will start thinking ALL cryptocurrencies are bad).

so my idea: is it feasable to fork the blockchain in a future block?

i am pretty sure most people will use your fork.
if you dont have the ressources to manage this fork properly i am sure you'll find many people in this forum (including me) which would like to assist you.


Lets vote!

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September 05, 2011, 02:45:38 PM
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I answered that just before his post, you didn't see it or it doesn't answer your question?

That's doable but I want to be sure there's a majority of people wanting this change
So in a week I can post a poll and see the results

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September 05, 2011, 02:49:27 PM
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Looking forward to it.   Smiley
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September 05, 2011, 02:57:16 PM
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No need to vote, no need to fork.

jackjack has helpfully provided an open source version of a closed source client. Thankyou.

If jackjack wants to make an alternative blockchain, he is welcome to do so. I'm sure he would do it well & I'd be interested to see it.

jackjack has expressed no desire to do this, and certainly no desire to try to resurrect SolidCoin.

Can we just thank him for his client & let him go back to all the useful things he already does ?

If someone really wants to fork SolidCoin, that is their choice.
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September 05, 2011, 03:05:25 PM
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jackjack has expressed no desire to do this,

Or ignore the part where he said he would assist and it be put to a vote.

Thanks jackjack btw.

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September 05, 2011, 03:23:03 PM
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I answered that just before his post, you didn't see it or it doesn't answer your question?

That's doable but I want to be sure there's a majority of people wanting this change
So in a week I can post a poll and see the results

ok, i missed that.

thank you very much for your work!
looking forward to see

(btw. the phrase "That's doable but I want to be sure there's a majority of people wanting this change" just gave me the feeling you are the right person for this job!)
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September 05, 2011, 03:30:10 PM
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I'd re-enable handling orphan blocks (add a size limit on the orphan blocks list if you are afraid of orphan floods), or the SC network will soon be quite dead (it's already starting to fork ...).

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September 05, 2011, 04:20:24 PM
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Are there any binaries yet?

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September 05, 2011, 06:54:50 PM
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I'd re-enable handling orphan blocks (add a size limit on the orphan blocks list if you are afraid of orphan floods), or the SC network will soon be quite dead (it's already starting to fork ...).

Anyone want to offer a bounty to fix this?

If we actually fix things in the open source client we might end up with something better than coinhunters broken BitCoin.


I'd offer a bounty myself but I sent my last .50BTC to the spaghetti monster guy when he created the open source fork.
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September 05, 2011, 08:37:30 PM
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Y'all probably want this:
  https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/491

However, I don't think you can fix all the problems that a fixed transaction fee cause; the real problem is that basic economics says that you need to let the price of a scare resource change, ideally in a market, to match the underlying real costs.

(bitcoin's fee structure isn't right either, and fixing it to create a market between miners and clients is high on the TODO list)

How often do you get the chance to work on a potentially world-changing project?
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September 05, 2011, 10:29:57 PM
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Actually his basic idea of doing a fix fee, and making it that 'high' was to get higher income to miners.

As the whole basic plan was:

- Shorter time for blocks
- lower increase in difficulty
- way higher difficulty drop than raise
- additional higher income through the fees (which bring way more once there are enough transactions)

This all was about being able to mine faster, get the coins faster and reach the coin max faster - which btw was lower so each mined coin would in the end be more worth.

What he then later realised that just by mining you don't make money, you NEED someone who is willing to buy them, cause either speculation or being able to use them for someting.
This was when he - at least he said he did - contacted ruxum and mtgox. Cause just by producing something you don't make money. And i realy hoped - after he realized that - that this will become some project with possibly perspectives for the future.

But in the end everyone should realize that all this was born out of the wish to maximize potential income through mining. All this "improvements" where miner focused!
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September 05, 2011, 10:41:12 PM
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Code:
~/soldcoin/src$ make -f ../build/makefile.unix solidcoind
g++ -c -O2 -Wno-invalid-offsetof -Wformat -g -D__WXDEBUG__ -DNOPCH -DUSE_SSL -DUSE_UPNP=0 -o ../obj/nogui/util.o util.cpp
Assembler messages:
Fatal error: can't create ../obj/nogui/util.o: No such file or directory
make: *** [../obj/nogui/util.o] Error 1

I'm probably late to this but I fixed and published this problem. Look into my last posts, it should appear within the last week or so.

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September 05, 2011, 11:32:00 PM
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I'd re-enable handling orphan blocks (add a size limit on the orphan blocks list if you are afraid of orphan floods), or the SC network will soon be quite dead (it's already starting to fork ...).

"It's already starting to fork"  . Haha, what a laugh. I was wondering why you had never really helped out the Bitcoin project but it's becoming obvious. You don't know C++ well.

To the OP it is fine if you want to develop a "open source" alternative to my "open source" program. Good luck with outpacing my development though. Just wondering when you are going to add more vuln. fixes, network improvements and multiwallet support like that which is due out in SolidCoin in a few days? Thanks for the support of SolidCoin, and good luck with your project.

Try SolidCoin or talk with other SolidCoin supporters here SolidCoin Forums
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September 05, 2011, 11:35:14 PM
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I'd re-enable handling orphan blocks (add a size limit on the orphan blocks list if you are afraid of orphan floods), or the SC network will soon be quite dead (it's already starting to fork ...).

"It's already starting to fork"  . Haha, what a laugh. I was wondering why you had never really helped out the Bitcoin project but it's becoming obvious. You don't know C++ well.

To the OP it is fine if you want to develop a "open source" alternative to my "open source" program. Good luck with outpacing my development though. Just wondering when you are going to add more vuln. fixes, network improvements and multiwallet support like that which is due out in SolidCoin in a few days? Thanks for the support of SolidCoin, and good luck with your project.

I think this is funny because now Coinhunter is thanking Artforz for his support of solidcoin.

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September 05, 2011, 11:41:21 PM
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I also forgot to add, make sure your new client is compatible with the API changes that exchanges and businesses will be using soon. I'm not sure how you can get those specs until I've released them, but nevertheless you can probably try! Smiley

Try SolidCoin or talk with other SolidCoin supporters here SolidCoin Forums
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September 05, 2011, 11:43:08 PM
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I also forgot to add, make sure your new client is compatible with the API changes that exchanges and businesses will be using soon. I'm not sure how you can get those specs until I've released them, but nevertheless you can probably try! Smiley

Have fun getting those to become relevant if the open-source client has more than 51% of the mining user base. Which is likely since pools often apply patches that didn't come from you. Smiley

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September 05, 2011, 11:45:45 PM
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I also forgot to add, make sure your new client is compatible with the API changes that exchanges and businesses will be using soon. I'm not sure how you can get those specs until I've released them, but nevertheless you can probably try! Smiley

Have fun getting those to become relevant if the open-source client has more than 51% of the mining user base. Which is likely since pools often apply patches that didn't come from you. Smiley

Yeah the only problem with that is I have solved the 51% problem and that is also coming out very soon. Oops, did SolidCoin just protect itself a lot better than Bitcoin? Smiley

Furthermore when anyone new to SolidCoin google searches for it, guess which site they'll be getting? So yes please go convince the mining pools to abandon the official version in favour of some featureless fork of SolidCoin from an earlier version because they'll be removed off the site, no longer get new visitors and earn the distrust of the whole SC community. ie They'll die like SCGuild and Bitparking.

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September 05, 2011, 11:51:42 PM
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I also forgot to add, make sure your new client is compatible with the API changes that exchanges and businesses will be using soon. I'm not sure how you can get those specs until I've released them, but nevertheless you can probably try! Smiley

Have fun getting those to become relevant if the open-source client has more than 51% of the mining user base. Which is likely since pools often apply patches that didn't come from you. Smiley

Yeah the only problem with that is I have solved the 51% problem and that is also coming out very soon. Oops, did SolidCoin just protect itself a lot better than Bitcoin? Smiley

Furthermore when anyone new to SolidCoin google searches for it, guess which site they'll be getting? So yes please go convince the mining pools to abandon the official version in favour of some featureless fork of SolidCoin from an earlier version because they'll be removed off the site, no longer get new visitors and earn the distrust of the whole SC community. ie They'll die like SCGuild and Bitparking.

Yeah bitparking is dying with its 3 other exchanges and three other pools. So is btcguild with their giant bitcoin mining pool. They are definitely dying.

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September 05, 2011, 11:55:14 PM
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CoinHunter, you really need to drop that aura of arrogance.

If you've done any reflection in the past several days I think you might realize it's a good idea.

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September 06, 2011, 12:02:22 AM
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CoinHunter, you really need to drop that aura of arrogance.

If you've done any reflection in the past several days I think you might realize it's a good idea.

I think the only 'reflection' he's been doing is watching himself masturbate in the mirror to stroke his ego at the same time he's stroking his tiny cock.

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