A guy posts what is actually a very important topic concerning bitcoin: Masonic control of the current banking system, and gets trolled hard.
Well, the people on this thread pooh-poohing this topic might be idiots but are more likely their disinfo agents. You're an absolute moron if you can't tell the masons run the US monetary system - they put their symbols on the money itself. George Washington, Major in the British Army and 33rd degree Grandmaster is on the $1 bill.
Now bring your asshole ad hominem posts about me being a conspiracy theorist and "looney" - its all you really have. You shitheads certainly can't argue with any substance - any character in your respective families died off 2 generations ago.
<sigh>
How about some historical facts, and lets see if you guys can assemble
another kind of theory of what freemasonary is actually about.
(taken from a website with a bias, but true nonetheless, emphasis is mine)
http://watch.pair.com/mason.html"One recent historical account of Freemasonry, THE TEMPLE & THE LODGE, boast instead of the profound influence of Freemasonry on the founding documents, (while carefully trying to avoid creating the impression of a Masonic conspiracy):
"Of the fifty-six signatories of the Declaration of Independence, only nine can definitely be identified as Freemasons, while ten others may possibly have been. Of the general officers in the Continental Army, there were so far as documentation can establish, thirty-three Freemasons out of seventy-four. Granted the known Freemasons were, as a rule, more prominent, more instrumental in shaping the course of events than their unaffiliated colleagues...
"On 11 June, (the Continental) Congress appointed a committee to draft a declaration of independence. Of the five men on this committee, two - Franklin and...Robert Livingston - were Freemasons, and one, Robert Sherman, is believed, though not confirmed, to have been. The other two, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams - were not, despite subsequent claims to the contrary. The text of the declaration was composed by Jefferson. It was submitted to Congress and accepted on 4 July 1776. The nine signatories who can now be established as proven Freemasons, and the ten who were possibly so, included such influential figures as Washington, Franklin and, of course, the president of the Congress, John Hancock. The army, moreover, remained almost entirely in Freemasonic hands...As we shall see, it is in the Constitution that the influence of Freemasonry is most discernible...
"At last, on 25 May 1787, the Constitutional Convention opened in Philadelphia and commenced its efforts to devise the machinery of government for the new nation. The first voice to make itself heard in any significantly influential way was a characteristically Freemasonic one, that of Edmund Randolph.. Randolph...a member of a Williamsburg lodge, had become Washington's aide-de-camp. Subsequently he was to become Attorney-General, then governor of Virginia and Grand Master of Virginia's Grand Lodge. During Washington's presidency, he was to serve as the first Attorney-General of the United States, then the first Secretary of State.
"...There were ultimately five dominant and guiding spirits behind the Constitution - Washington, Franklin, Randolph, Jefferson and John Adams. Of these, the first three were active Freemasons, but men who took their Freemasonry extremely seriously - men who subscribed fervently to its ideals, whose entire orientation had been shaped and conditioned by it. And Adam's position, though he himself is not known to have been a Freemason was virtually identical to theirs. When he became president, moreover, he appointed a prominent Freemason, John Marshall, as first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court." (1)
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Now, feel free to research the lives of these men on your own, particularly those names that you do not know, and ask yourself, "do the lives these men led imply that they were party to some grand cabal to subjugate humanity?". If the answer to that question is no, ask yourself why that might be.
Furthermore... (
http://www.rosslyntemplars.org.uk/) I am going to assert (because I can't prove it) that Freemasonry (in general) is a branch of the Knights Templar. Freemasonry as we know of it today was officially founded on June 24th, 1717. (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry) However, there exists known documents that used the Masonic codes at least as far back as 1390 (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masonic_manuscripts) therefore blowing the OP's assertion that they were founded with the Bank of England to hell. The Scotish Freemasonry (the oldest form known) is also known to be deeply tied to the Rosslyn Chapel (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosslyn_Chapel) as Masonic symbolism is all over the stonework of the chapel. The Rosslyn Chaple was commishined by the Sinclair family, who were deeply tied to the Knights Templar prior to the breakup of that order in 1305 (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar#Arrests.2C_charges.2C_and_dissolution). Prior to that event, the Knights were deeply involved in finance across all of Europe & the Middle East. (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Knights_Templar#Bankers) Therefore, the OP's assertion that MAsons are tied to international banking is likely true, but not necessarily malicious, for they used full reserve & gold standard banking, and regarded anything less as fraud. Furthermore, a different branch of those KT that were fleeing persecution in the 1300's found refuge in what is now Switzerland. (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%BCtlischwur) This involves the classic story of William Tell, which conviently leaves out much detail concerning his miltary forces, who managed to defeat a tyranical regent in open battle using local & foreign troops agaisnt a much larger force. Tactics were never discused, but the fleeing KT would, of course, been quite a powerful & well trained group of mercs to have on your side. In return, it's reasonable to assume that those same KT found political refuge in those mountain cantons. It's also true that for hundreds of years Switzerland was the nexus of
secret & gold standard international banking & finance. Incidentally, Switzerland was not only the first nation on Earth to recognize the independent soverignty of the US, but was the first to lend it money for it's war effort; and the last to surrender the gold standard. Again, not the kind of actions one might expect from a grand cabal bent towards world domination via finance, particularly centered around the
Bank of England.
Furthermore, it's more than possible that the organization is older still than the KT, for there is some evidence that the secrecy of the organization extends all the way to the foundation of the actual Temple of Soloman, makning the term "freemasons" an inside joke. (blocklayers & stonecutters are 'masons' you see, and they are 'freed' men)
I could easily go on, and I have another challenge for you guys. While it's true that masons are sworn to not discuss Freemasonry with anyone not in the order, they are most certainly permitted to tell you what it's
not. It's the 'negative affirmation' method of discovery. You can ask about the facts that I've presented, and then ask "is it true?" If it is, they cannot answer you. If they believe that it is false, they can. Here are some other questions to ask...
"Are Freemasons Diests?" You might have to explain this term. The answer will be "no". Freemasonry requires a sworn belief in a monotheistic God, although it is not, itself, a religion; and theological discussions are generally verboten inside a masonic temple. They really are not about that.
"Do the masonic ceremonies refer to the original Temple of Soloman?" They cannot answer this question.
And I dare anyone to claim that i'm some kind of agent of disinformation.
