What would you have done?

[maxman190]

This is the only active forum I know and I needed to vent my anger, hope you guys don't mind.

I was walking home with my slightly retarded older brother when this bald guy with dirty clothing and clothing in a laundry bag on a bike that goes through the trash. He suddenly started riding his bike slowly behind us and dragging his feet so we can hear that he's behind us. He started saying softly, "Go back to Hong Kong... Go back to Hong Kong..." My and brother are Chinese nationality but are born in America. I told my brother to go ahead of me and go home. That dude started dragging his feet again. I turned my head slightly, so that I can see him in my peripheral vision and he would snicker and laugh whenever I did it. After my first head turn, he started dragging his feet louder and I turned around again and he started snickering. I have brass knuckles in my pocket for self-defense, I wanted to hit that guy so bad. (Brass knuckles are illegal in New York, so I didn't want to get into trouble). What would you guys have done? Is it legal to hit someone for racial/ethnic slurs directed at you and mentally retarded brother? This happened in front of cameras and it would of shown that I initiated the attack.

[Holliday]

This is the only active forum I know and I needed to vent my anger, hope you guys don't mind.

I was walking home with my slightly retarded older brother when this bald guy with dirty clothing and clothing in a laundry bag on a bike that goes through the trash. He suddenly started riding his bike slowly behind us and dragging his feet so we can hear that he's behind us. He started saying softly, "Go back to Hong Kong... Go back to Hong Kong..." My and brother are Chinese nationality but are born in America. I told my brother to go ahead of me and go home. That dude started dragging his feet again. I turned my head slightly, so that I can see him in my peripheral vision and he would snicker and laugh whenever I did it. After my first head turn, he started dragging his feet louder and I turned around again and he started snickering. I have brass knuckles in my pocket for self-defense, I wanted to hit that guy so bad. (Brass knuckles are illegal in New York, so I didn't want to get into trouble). What would you guys have done? Is it legal to hit someone for racial/ethnic slurs directed at you and mentally retarded brother? This happened in front of cameras and it would of shown that I initiated the attack.

I would have avoided conflict at all costs. Enter a public store or something. I would certainly not let someone follow behind me.

Of course, I wouldn't be in NY where I am basically not allowed to carry a firearm for self-defense.

[maxman190]

This is the only active forum I know and I needed to vent my anger, hope you guys don't mind.

I was walking home with my slightly retarded older brother when this bald guy with dirty clothing and clothing in a laundry bag on a bike that goes through the trash. He suddenly started riding his bike slowly behind us and dragging his feet so we can hear that he's behind us. He started saying softly, "Go back to Hong Kong... Go back to Hong Kong..." My and brother are Chinese nationality but are born in America. I told my brother to go ahead of me and go home. That dude started dragging his feet again. I turned my head slightly, so that I can see him in my peripheral vision and he would snicker and laugh whenever I did it. After my first head turn, he started dragging his feet louder and I turned around again and he started snickering. I have brass knuckles in my pocket for self-defense, I wanted to hit that guy so bad. (Brass knuckles are illegal in New York, so I didn't want to get into trouble). What would you guys have done? Is it legal to hit someone for racial/ethnic slurs directed at you and mentally retarded brother? This happened in front of cameras and it would of shown that I initiated the attack.

I would have avoided conflict at all costs. Enter a public store or something. I would certainly not let someone follow behind me.

Of course, I wouldn't be in NY where I am basically not allowed to carry a firearm for self-defense.

I did enter a store, I stood by the entrance and made a bodyguard stance when he came in and picked through the garbage while I just glared at him until he left.

[Vod]

This is the only active forum I know and I needed to vent my anger, hope you guys don't mind.

I was walking home with my slightly retarded older brother when this bald guy with dirty clothing and clothing in a laundry bag on a bike that goes through the trash. He suddenly started riding his bike slowly behind us and dragging his feet so we can hear that he's behind us. He started saying softly, "Go back to Hong Kong... Go back to Hong Kong..." My and brother are Chinese nationality but are born in America. I told my brother to go ahead of me and go home. That dude started dragging his feet again. I turned my head slightly, so that I can see him in my peripheral vision and he would snicker and laugh whenever I did it. After my first head turn, he started dragging his feet louder and I turned around again and he started snickering. I have brass knuckles in my pocket for self-defense, I wanted to hit that guy so bad. (Brass knuckles are illegal in New York, so I didn't want to get into trouble). What would you guys have done? Is it legal to hit someone for racial/ethnic slurs directed at you and mentally retarded brother? This happened in front of cameras and it would of shown that I initiated the attack.

So you were going to attack a person with an illegal concealed weapon?  That would make you the attacker, not the victim.

Nothing gives you the right to touch another person, unless it is in self defence.

Having your feelings hurt does not require defence.

[pedrog]

You could just told him to go back to England or Ireland or somewhere in Europe.

[maxman190]

This is the only active forum I know and I needed to vent my anger, hope you guys don't mind.

I was walking home with my slightly retarded older brother when this bald guy with dirty clothing and clothing in a laundry bag on a bike that goes through the trash. He suddenly started riding his bike slowly behind us and dragging his feet so we can hear that he's behind us. He started saying softly, "Go back to Hong Kong... Go back to Hong Kong..." My and brother are Chinese nationality but are born in America. I told my brother to go ahead of me and go home. That dude started dragging his feet again. I turned my head slightly, so that I can see him in my peripheral vision and he would snicker and laugh whenever I did it. After my first head turn, he started dragging his feet louder and I turned around again and he started snickering. I have brass knuckles in my pocket for self-defense, I wanted to hit that guy so bad. (Brass knuckles are illegal in New York, so I didn't want to get into trouble). What would you guys have done? Is it legal to hit someone for racial/ethnic slurs directed at you and mentally retarded brother? This happened in front of cameras and it would of shown that I initiated the attack.

So you were going to attack a person with an illegal concealed weapon?  That would make you the attacker, not the victim.

Nothing gives you the right to touch another person, unless it is in self defence.

Having your feelings hurt does not require defence.

What about feeling threatened? Does that require defense? What if my brother was scared out of his mind because this is the first time happening to him? So, yes, I was going to fucking attack the person with an illegal fucking weapon. Who the fuck knows what he's hiding in his bike or pockets. He was so close to me that he could of sniffed my ass. It was like he wanted to shank me, do I wait until he stabs me before I can touch him in self defense?

[Kiki112]

just ignore him,that's the best you can do
or if you really want to hit him you need  to provoke the attack, make fun of him,tell him to go back to Europe (because he's white )
if he attacks you, you can kick his sorry ass

but as I said if he isn't so annoying try to ignore him,because what he really wants is to mess with you and don't let him to succeed

[techgeek]

People are just dumb. Just ignore it, because its just too heavy to give a fuck.

Your going to end up punching a lot of people lol.

[Frost000]

Just turn around and say "fuck off". From there, if he escalates and starts shoving you, you can go medieval on him.

Not with the brass knuckles, though.

[guybrushthreepwood]

This is the only active forum I know and I needed to vent my anger, hope you guys don't mind.

I was walking home with my slightly retarded older brother when this bald guy with dirty clothing and clothing in a laundry bag on a bike that goes through the trash. He suddenly started riding his bike slowly behind us and dragging his feet so we can hear that he's behind us. He started saying softly, "Go back to Hong Kong... Go back to Hong Kong..." My and brother are Chinese nationality but are born in America. I told my brother to go ahead of me and go home. That dude started dragging his feet again. I turned my head slightly, so that I can see him in my peripheral vision and he would snicker and laugh whenever I did it. After my first head turn, he started dragging his feet louder and I turned around again and he started snickering. I have brass knuckles in my pocket for self-defense, I wanted to hit that guy so bad. (Brass knuckles are illegal in New York, so I didn't want to get into trouble). What would you guys have done? Is it legal to hit someone for racial/ethnic slurs directed at you and mentally retarded brother? This happened in front of cameras and it would of shown that I initiated the attack.

So you were going to attack a person with an illegal concealed weapon?  That would make you the attacker, not the victim.

Nothing gives you the right to touch another person, unless it is in self defence.

Having your feelings hurt does not require defence.

My sentiments exactly. He's a racist wanker with misplaced hatred, but don't pre-empt violence with violence. Only use it if it's your last resort.  And why do you need Brass Knuckles, don't all you guys know karate? lol I'm just kidding. Don't carry brass knuckles unless you feel like you really need them, but be prepared to face the consequences if caught.

[Foxpup]

What about feeling threatened? Does that require defense? What if my brother was scared out of his mind because this is the first time happening to him? So, yes, I was going to fucking attack the person with an illegal fucking weapon. Who the fuck knows what he's hiding in his bike or pockets. He was so close to me that he could of sniffed my ass. It was like he wanted to shank me, do I wait until he stabs me before I can touch him in self defense?

Self-defence law does not care about your feelings, only about actual and threatened assaults (and an insult is not a threat). Neither does the law allow you to attack someone because you don't know what he's hiding, or because he's standing close to you, or because "it was like he wanted to shank you". He has to actually pull out the knife or threaten to stab you before you can use force to defend yourself.

Besides, forget about the law for a moment, and consider the facts. Suppose he actually does have a knife and he really does want to stab you, your attack gives him a perfectly legal excuse to do so. He will stab you, and in court he'll deny that he ever provoked you (you can't prove he did, remember), he'll say he was only carrying the knife because he uses it at his job, and then claim self-defence because you attacked him first (which you did). Assuming you survive, you're the one who'll be going to jail.

[CoinGeneral]

Are you serious that you actually got mad at this? A homeless person digging through trash insulting you and you get pissed? Really? That shit wouldn't have affected me at all.

I think you need to get out more. This simple, very easy encounter has you riled up. I wonder what would happen if something that was actually serious occurred.

[Lethn]

It doesn't matter if he insulted your dead mother, you don't ever punch a person out of anger, you just mock them like I do or move along and if they attack you that's when you can fight back mind you, people tend to just move along themselves if they ever get on the receiving end of my mocking

[TheButterZone]

Go back, give him some chopsticks, that appear to be stained with blood.

[Haidang1796]

but anyway, did you hit that guy, and then tell us the story? . You cannot really prove that this guy is saying bad things about you, cause you didnt recored, but if you hit him then watching the camera, people would probably think you create trouble, and whether you were right or wrong, you'll lost at least something
So in my opinion, I'd rather keep ignoring it, or if you want to pay back, just say some random things about racist that might piss the guy off

[hilariousandco]

It doesn't matter if he insulted your dead mother, you don't ever punch a person out of anger, you just mock them like I do or move along and if they attack you that's when you can fight back mind you, people tend to just move along themselves if they ever get on the receiving end of my mocking

Sounds like you're quite the Insult Assassin there. Something tells me you wouldn’t decide to mock someone who was twice the size of you. And being on the internet doesn't count  .

[Lethn]

It doesn't matter if he insulted your dead mother, you don't ever punch a person out of anger, you just mock them like I do or move along and if they attack you that's when you can fight back mind you, people tend to just move along themselves if they ever get on the receiving end of my mocking

Sounds like you're quite the Insult Assassin there. Something tells me you wouldn’t decide to mock someone who was twice the size of you. And being on the internet doesn't count  .

You don't know me very well size doesn't mean shit to me

To quote Minsc from Baldurs Gate 2: The bigger they are! The harder I hit!

[hilariousandco]

It doesn't matter if he insulted your dead mother, you don't ever punch a person out of anger, you just mock them like I do or move along and if they attack you that's when you can fight back mind you, people tend to just move along themselves if they ever get on the receiving end of my mocking

Sounds like you're quite the Insult Assassin there. Something tells me you wouldn’t decide to mock someone who was twice the size of you. And being on the internet doesn't count  .

You don't know me very well size doesn't mean shit to me

To quote Minsc from Baldurs Gate 2: The bigger they are! The harder I hit!

The fact that you are quoting Baldurs Gate leads me to be doubtful of such claims  .

[SebastianJu]

Fear isnt a reason to attack legally. Otherwise even the scary look of a person could justify beating him. I think the guy only enjoyed fearing you. And it worked fine for him.
I think i would have tried not showing him that im concerned and trying not to escalate it. Going away from him into the shop was the right decision. Such scumbags arent worth that you turn your life negative because that would have happened when you attacked him or when you escalated it and he attacked you. Its simply not worth it. "Does the moon care when the dogs bark at it." Your above that and only fight back when needed. Though i know of course that its really hard in such situations because one normally doesnt have these every day so its a high adrenaline situation for nearly every person.
I know in TV people get shown to beat for "protecting honour" or similar stupid reasons but in real life these guys ends worse than the beaten. For a reason.

[PrintMule]

To quote Minsc from Baldurs Gate 2: The bigger they are! The harder I hit!

The fact that you are quoting Baldurs Gate leads me to be doubtful of such claims  .

LOL! My thoughts exactly!

On topic: it's much easier for two guys to make fun of a single person than vice-versa. You could've escalated if your up for that, by a strong "fuck off" or by making fun of him with your brother. "Can you believe this bald hobo? Should we knife his sorry ass?" so he may decide to walk slower.

But if you need to do that - means you have a problem with self-confidence. You should give 0 fucks about such slurs.

Everyone so sensitive nowadays in the united states of political correctness.