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[Biffa]

Hello guys,

First reply from me here, and thank you all for the support and tips provided all over the forum.

I am planning to pre order this SHA 256 mining machine (Uranus Miner), and the company replied to the order and mentioned that they did not accept PayPal neither credit cards for the time being according to a technical issues, however, they accept bitcoins and bank wire transfer only.

So can I trust this company and send the money in advance without knowing if they really will ship the item I pre ordered it or not?

Expert advice please who dealt with this company before and received their machines already with trust.

Plain answer, No you can't. Only send them money that you can afford to never see again.

They basically made a couple of Apollo machines which were just Hashfast boards screwed into a PC case, one of which they sent to dogie for review. The rest of their sales are just rebadged Scrypt Litecoin mining machines from another company.

The Uranus (lol) is vaporware, the only 20nm mining chip ever made came from KnC and that monster, well no-one else bothered because its not worth it.

Plus they have 5 days to deliver it on time to hit their Q1 deadline.

Basically only buy from stock or once someone has proven that something exists.

[Umberg]

I ordered my miners via bank, you can look at that message: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=417623.msg9498594#msg9498594 Paid via bank, received within 2 weeks. Tried their hosting to increase hashrate "offshore" and l paid with btc - all went through fine.

[Biffa]

I ordered my miners via bank, you can look at that message: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=417623.msg9498594#msg9498594 Paid via bank, received within 2 weeks. Tried their hosting to increase hashrate "offshore" and l paid with btc - all went through fine.

Thats a rebadged scrypt miner, nothing to do with the question which is about a non existent SHA256 miner. 

[Umberg]

I ordered my miners via bank, you can look at that message: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=417623.msg9498594#msg9498594 Paid via bank, received within 2 weeks. Tried their hosting to increase hashrate "offshore" and l paid with btc - all went through fine.

Thats a rebadged scrypt miner, nothing to do with the question which is about a non existent SHA256 miner. 

I can see you're trying to sell spondoolies with your comments while all their stocks are sold out. Such claims from you need to be confirmed. Seems to me you haven't ordered anything from HC at all.

[oomi0010]

Hello guys,

First reply from me here, and thank you all for the support and tips provided all over the forum.

I am planning to pre order this SHA 256 mining machine (Uranus Miner), and the company replied to the order and mentioned that they did not accept PayPal neither credit cards for the time being according to a technical issues, however, they accept bitcoins and bank wire transfer only.

So can I trust this company and send the money in advance without knowing if they really will ship the item I pre ordered it or not?

Expert advice please who dealt with this company before and received their machines already with trust.

my order was some time ago, bank transferred them the money, they confirmed after 72h and sent it the next business day, so I deem them trustful. btw, their support answers your questions quickly so contact them.

[jimmothy]

Seems to me you haven't ordered anything from HC at all.

Why would anyone buy from these extremely shady hardware resellers especially after they were caught lying about their hardware specs?

Bitcoin mining is already risky enough. Preordering nonexistent hardware from likely scammers is just idiotic.

[Bicknellski]

Seems to me you haven't ordered anything from HC at all.

Why would anyone buy from these extremely shady hardware resellers especially after they were caught lying about their hardware specs?

Bitcoin mining is already risky enough. Preordering nonexistent hardware from likely scammers is just idiotic.

You know... that is all we want people to understand there is just too much risk in such a "purchase". It would be nice to see less people even entertain the idea of buying from shady companies especially when you can get things in stock or used for a fair and reasonable price currently. It makes ZERO sense waiting on this company.

[TheRealSteve]

I can see you're trying to sell spondoolies with your comments while all their stocks are sold out. Such claims from you need to be confirmed. Seems to me you haven't ordered anything from HC at all.

I agree that he might as well remove that from his sig, but if he's still getting something out of the referral link (all the ones on products are gone), more power to him.  Beats obnoxious signature campaign ones


The claim that it is a rebadged Scrypt miner is easily supported.  I'm sure it's been mentioned several times in this thread already, but just googling around:

Product	Alcheminer Alchemist	Mining Asics Technologies Excalibur	HashCoins Ares256
outside
board
chip

It is perhaps the most literal form of 'rebadged', although without the 're' part - they stuck a badge on top of where the Alcheminer logo would be.  Perhaps if you're bored you can prise the badge off of yours and see what's underneath.  At least MAT printed their panels and customized the chip marking.  MAT went out of business, but I doubt the customization can be blamed for that


The claim that the Uranus is currently non-existent is also easily supported, they say as much themselves:

Product under development. Uranus is now available for pre-order with an estimated delivery date Q1 2015.

Q1 ends in a week, so they still have time.  You claimed earlier that it's already been made - but as that's hearsay and HashCoins can't be bothered to update their website, the non-existent label is on them.  Takes them a few minutes to update that.  Of course then people will start wanting further proof.


None of the above is in any way related to whether you can trust that if you send them BTC in a pre-order for a product with little to no information available, that they will deliver on time and on-spec.

Given how many people get burned by pre-orders and then complain left right and center about it, the past posts' advice to just not enter into pre-orders is solid - their potential lack of prior patronage is not at issue, as the Bitcoin hardware landscape changes all the time with companies' reputation in flux.
Of course if it's money the person can stand to lose, and they're willing to wager on past performance (good and bad), it's their choice.

[00king00]

Seems to me you haven't ordered anything from HC at all.

Why would anyone buy from these extremely shady hardware resellers especially after they were caught lying about their hardware specs?

Bitcoin mining is already risky enough. Preordering nonexistent hardware from likely scammers is just idiotic.

Thanks but why Bitcoin mining is risky?

[dogie]

The claim that it is a rebadged Scrypt miner is easily supported.  I'm sure it's been mentioned several times in this thread already, but just googling around:

Just to be clear, there are chip markings on the Ares chips, but I had to blank them due to an NDA.

[TheRealSteve]

Just to be clear, there are chip markings on the Ares chips, but I had to blank them due to an NDA.

Yeah, I thought they looked a bit odd - even before the forum decided to cache only half the picture - didn't want to call anybody out.  Did I mention yet that NDAs suck?

Thanks but why Bitcoin mining is risky?

It's 'risky' in terms of getting a positive financial ROI.
I.e. you pay X for a miner, and after t time you get Y in return, where Y < X.  OR If you would have bought BTC for X, then after t time you get Z in return, where Z > Y.
( There's also fire hazard risks, with some miners, but I don't think that's what they meant )

[notlist3d]

The claim that it is a rebadged Scrypt miner is easily supported.  I'm sure it's been mentioned several times in this thread already, but just googling around:

Just to be clear, there are chip markings on the Ares chips, but I had to blank them due to an NDA.

Hmmm interesting bit of information.  Anyone have a Ares they can open up?  I just wonder if they have another brand on chips.  They did all split the chips.

Just a guess no proof in my theory at all.

[MrTeal]

The claim that it is a rebadged Scrypt miner is easily supported.  I'm sure it's been mentioned several times in this thread already, but just googling around:

Just to be clear, there are chip markings on the Ares chips, but I had to blank them due to an NDA.

Hmmm interesting bit of information.  Anyone have a Ares they can open up?  I just wonder if they have another brand on chips.  They did all split the chips.

Just a guess no proof in my theory at all.

Given that the Ares and the standard Alcheminer both have the same little barcode sticker with the one corner angled, I wouldn't be surprised if they just directly source the boards from Alcheminer.

[elrippo]

Hy there 

Uranus seems to be available now -> https://www.hashcoins.com/buy-asic-miners/buy-uranus/

Kind regards,
elrippo

[Biffa]

Hy there 

Uranus seems to be available now -> https://www.hashcoins.com/buy-asic-miners/buy-uranus/

Kind regards,
elrippo

https://www.hashcoins.com/buy-asic-miners/buy-uranus/#panel5695059932

"At this moment Uranus v1 is available for ordering with shipping date of 6-7 weeks from the date of cleared payment, according to our order schedule."

[PatMan]

Hy there  

Uranus seems to be available now -> https://www.hashcoins.com/buy-asic-miners/buy-uranus/

Kind regards,
elrippo

This has been advertised on their site for at least 6 months, it is not news. Furthermore, there is still not a single one "in the wild".

Purchase at your peril.

[elrippo]

Hy guys,

Hy there 

Uranus seems to be available now -> https://www.hashcoins.com/buy-asic-miners/buy-uranus/

Kind regards,
elrippo

https://www.hashcoins.com/buy-asic-miners/buy-uranus/#panel5695059932

"At this moment Uranus v1 is available for ordering with shipping date of 6-7 weeks from the date of cleared payment, according to our order schedule."

yeah, and did you see the * -> On the foot note -> "*Uranus is in the stage of testing and certification."

Hy there 

Uranus seems to be available now -> https://www.hashcoins.com/buy-asic-miners/buy-uranus/

Kind regards,
elrippo

This has been advertised on their site for at least 6 months, it is not news. Furthermore, there is still not a single one "in the wild".

Purchase at your peril.

Not quite. Until yesterday it was only for pre-order, now you can actually by one with 6-7 weeks delivery.

Kind regards,
elrippo

[PatMan]

Go on then, I dare you........

[00king00]

Go on then, I dare you........

I order it .. and send the money through wire transfer .. lets hope :-)

[elrippo]

Go on then, I dare you........

I order it .. and send the money through wire transfer .. lets hope :-)

Can you keep us updated of your purchase, specs and data of the running device, that would be awesome!!!