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[morda]

I would like to repeat myself - haters gonna hate. HC, I'm on your side! And I want the cloud, when is the price listing available?

Perlover - I recommend you to use http://www.tarbijakaitseamet.ee/en

Tupsu aren't you from Estonia? What about you actually visit them before posting, and then you could provide some real details.

Yes. What do I look like, what I do not know yet?  I do not believe in the possibility of the Estonian electricity prices cloud service. 0.1 EUR/kWh
I do not believe this cloudcompany longevity. And really, I hate those companies business. Mining itself and doing it for money from a stranger unfullfilled preorders.

In Estonian Computer Forum They claim that their products have been in the ground and will be available for immediate purchase.  Take the money and come to buy.
I believe it. Who does not need the money immediately ? Unfortunately, I do not know anyone in estonia, who have bought from them miners. Their price plus 20% VAT makes them too expensive for me.

1) I do not make an advance payment company, whose share capital is   2 508 EUR https://ariregister.rik.ee/lihtparing.py/menetlusteave?ark=12490015
2) whose age is only 1 year and 5 months  company established  13.06.2013
3) and which is owned by a Russian

I do not play in casinos and I do not make preorders.
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Estonian law does not love Bitcoin payments .
 If company selling something for BTC , they have to pay extra  amount of 20% VAT of  BTC amount
http://www.emta.ee/index.php?id=35227  use https://translate.google.ee/

Read also  http://btc.ee/appeal.html

Its the bitcoin market so over a year & a half is good
The first two years are tough for any business.

In any EU country u need to pay vat not estonian specific and i only payed vat once so its fud  from consumer point of view

Butterfly was run by an American how did they end?

Theres barley any company that can ship a new asic miner same day with ur analogy ull never be mining with the latest hardware

and estonia has somewhere like 3rd cheapest electricty in EU very good model for cloud mining

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[johny08]

I have been testing their cloud mining. I calculated the payment it's correct. I am in 40% cex.io 20 btcguild and 40 elysius pool inside.

Everything running smoothly for days.

[oomi0010]

came here to say what johny08 said, with all the bonus poweer im getting great results

[rachman]

HashCoins have enabled my scrypt mining very quickly, had it running for a day - screenshot attached. Decent payout

[MrTeal]

Your picture looks almost fake 

This company almost looks fake.

Why are they selling "Apollo v3" which is 550 gh/s per chip at 0.9 w/gh

And "Zues v3" which is 900 gh/s per chip at 0.65 w/gh. Seems like BS if you ask me.

Apollo v3 redesigned rev 2.3 to rev 2.4 (650-700Mhz)
Zeus v3 redesigned Yoli. (850-975Mhz)

Please stop trolling us!

No one's trolling you, but your numbers don't make sense. You can't get 900GH/s of out of a GN chip at 975MHz. The theoretic maximum with no inefficiencies is 768 hashes per clock cycle. You most certainly can't do so at 0.65J/GH, even at the chip level. If you were running 15 ASICs you might be able to get reasonably close to 4500GH/s and 2800W,  but the listed specs are extremely hard to believe. In the absence of some sort of evidence I'm sure you can understand why people are skeptical.

I think I'll be seeing a Yoli board of theirs soon, so we'll know either way.

Has hashcoins sent you one of their magical Yoli boards yet that gets 900GH/s from a single chip at 0.65J/GH at the wall? It would be nice to mark that offering down as a straight up scam so no one buys it.

[cintrondigital]

HashCoins have enabled my scrypt mining very quickly, had it running for a day - screenshot attached. Decent payout

btcguild - scrypt mining? Didnt know they offered it.

[dogie]

Your picture looks almost fake 

This company almost looks fake.

Why are they selling "Apollo v3" which is 550 gh/s per chip at 0.9 w/gh

And "Zues v3" which is 900 gh/s per chip at 0.65 w/gh. Seems like BS if you ask me.

Apollo v3 redesigned rev 2.3 to rev 2.4 (650-700Mhz)
Zeus v3 redesigned Yoli. (850-975Mhz)

Please stop trolling us!

No one's trolling you, but your numbers don't make sense. You can't get 900GH/s of out of a GN chip at 975MHz. The theoretic maximum with no inefficiencies is 768 hashes per clock cycle. You most certainly can't do so at 0.65J/GH, even at the chip level. If you were running 15 ASICs you might be able to get reasonably close to 4500GH/s and 2800W,  but the listed specs are extremely hard to believe. In the absence of some sort of evidence I'm sure you can understand why people are skeptical.

I think I'll be seeing a Yoli board of theirs soon, so we'll know either way.

Has hashcoins sent you one of their magical Yoli boards yet that gets 900GH/s from a single chip at 0.65J/GH at the wall? It would be nice to mark that offering down as a straight up scam so no one buys it.

Not yet, no.

[hashcoins]

btcguild - scrypt mining? Didnt know they offered it.

Of course not. In this version of the interface are displayed pools for SHA-256 only. For scrypt we are using Ghash and Clevermining - those will be displayed in next version.

[MA3A]

 Very good information, Tupsu, on business registrations etc.
 However i tend to disagree with your accusations towards this company. Everyone who has been in Tallinn or Eestimaa knows how tight taxation and regulation is. I have a lot of friends there both Russians and Estonians many have their own businesses, some a fresh startups, some are over 20 years old and still chopping. Everyone says that _EVERY_ business, if wants to survive does the tricks to a certain point... that is towards company assets etc. It is sad that Perlover had bad experience with this company, it is a fact that cant be denied. I have not read all details but apparently there was some problem with order. I like specs of the hardware they offer and just waiting some time for company to get "mature" like Tupsu said it is quite young company and needs to earn trust. I own a multiple businesses myself and know how hard it is in the beginning a first three years or so, plus with limited funds and personnel...
 Personally i disagree on your opinion about 2007 mess in Tallinn and there are tons of various videos on youtube etc about that night... and i'm sure you know that, crowd was mixed and there were as many Estonians arrested as many Russian speaking folks.
 Now i want to compliment HASHCOINS for actually starting this company and funny thing is, if they succeed, it will be later told that ESTONIAN hi-tech company had another success in a world IT field! Just like Skype did some time ago. When not native athletes go to Olympics under the country flag and get gold medal - all good, but whats up with this trolling?
 Again, you dont have to agree or disagree with my opinion, its clearly your own business, but your post looks like trolling to me.
 P.S. I am not a resident of Russia or Estonia, but i understand situation between the two.
 Apologies for long offtop.
 It be nice if Dogie had a complimentary units to play with, it would definitely add up trust to the company. Being such a small company it takes brass balls to get everything straight and i hope they will, so i can buy their hardware. Current price is not competitive if all fees/duties/delivery will be counted but i hope for the best.
 God Bless ALL

[cintrondigital]

btcguild - scrypt mining? Didnt know they offered it.

Of course not. In this version of the interface are displayed pools for SHA-256 only. For scrypt we are using Ghash and Clevermining - those will be displayed in next version.

Thanks for clarifying.

[dogie]

btcguild - scrypt mining? Didnt know they offered it.

Of course not. In this version of the interface are displayed pools for SHA-256 only. For scrypt we are using Ghash and Clevermining - those will be displayed in next version.

Thanks for clarifying.

Scyrptguild was a thing from Jan - Sept 2014.

[cintrondigital]

btcguild - scrypt mining? Didnt know they offered it.

Of course not. In this version of the interface are displayed pools for SHA-256 only. For scrypt we are using Ghash and Clevermining - those will be displayed in next version.

Thanks for clarifying.

Scyrptguild was a thing from Jan - Sept 2014.

Im well aware of scryptguild. I only questioned because the platform showed 256MHs and the pool was btcguild.

btw dogie, im a fan of your work. thanks for everything you do!

[cintrondigital]

So far so good, I received word my Ares is scheduled for shipping tomorrow. I will update when the unit arrives.

[MrTeal]

Zeus V3 4.5 TH/s - $2999 USD https://www.hashcoins.com/buy-asic-miners/buy-zeus/

The HashCoins™ Zeus Miner is 4,5TH/s of mining power in a modern PC case . Powered by five (5) of 28nm ASICs.
Raspberry Pi included. Control your system from anywhere!

Each system contains
• Five system boards with one 28nm ASICs on each
• Performance: 4500 GH/s at nominal clock speed. (That’s 4.5 TH/s in one mining unit.)
• At the wall, this unit consumes 2800 watt / 0.65 watt per gigahash +/- 5%
• Chassis: Corsair Air 540
• Five powerful water cooling systems ( up to 140 CFM each)
• High performance power supply

Please provide some proof that this miner can meet these performance claims.

[hashcoins]

Voltage shown by cgminer equals the maximum value for 1 core. After a board is powered up it takes some time to enter the active mode. The minimum required voltage for the core to operate without errors is selected automatically.
Power consumption stated in the technical specifications was measured for the whole device as a single unit. The testing was performed in normal conditions (16-24 C) during a certain timeframe.

[Rabinovitch]

They are funny. I can't receive an answers to my questions asked on their website. May be they are ignoring me. 

[MrTeal]

Voltage shown by cgminer equals the maximum value for 1 core. After a board is powered up it takes some time to enter the active mode. The minimum required voltage for the core to operate without errors is selected automatically.
Power consumption stated in the technical specifications was measured for the whole device as a single unit. The testing was performed in normal conditions (16-24 C) during a certain timeframe.

That image reveals a blatant attempt to deceive. The GN1 chip has 4 dies, each with 96 cores on them. Each clock cycle one core can do two hashes. That gives an absolute theoretical maximum of 768 hashes per clock cycle. See page 5 of the GN Protocol document for proof.
https://hashfast.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/gn_protocol.pdf
It is a physical impossibility to get 860GH/s from a clock of 950MHz over a couple minute interval.

Also, your WU values (diff1 shares/min) don't match your hashrate. The conversion from WU to hashrate is 2^32*WU/60 (divided by 60 to give diff1/second). Your values do not match at all, and you've likely just edited cgminer to display the wrong hashrate.

I will remove my negative trust once you send a board to dogie and he confirms your numbers.

[hashcoins]

They are funny. I can't receive an answers to my questions asked on their website. May be they are ignoring me. 

Please contact us directly at info@hashcoins.com. But if you are asking funny questions - we may not respond.

[hashcoins]

I will remove my negative trust once you send a board to dogie and he confirms your numbers.

HF's document mentions 96x4x2 and 422GH/s at nominal 550MHz. GN on our board provides at least 520 GH/s at 550MHz. The screenshot shows what cgminer shows (with original HF driver) and this is what we are providing. The document by HashFast was composed for their equipment and boards and wasn't updated even after Yoli was released that was 2 steps away from discovering the whole potential of Golden Nonce. Even rev 2.1/2.2 of the boards were able, at certain manipulations with cooling and voltage, to reach results that are not documented by HashFast. That is a fact. This chip has a great potential but not everyone can revise and upgrade the board. Your claim is unjustified.

[MrTeal]

I will remove my negative trust once you send a board to dogie and he confirms your numbers.

HF's document mentions 96x4x2 and 422GH/s at nominal 550MHz. GN on our board provides at least 520 GH/s at 550MHz. The screenshot shows what cgminer shows (with original HF driver) and this is what we are providing. The document by HashFast was composed for their equipment and boards and wasn't updated even after Yoli was released that was 2 steps away from discovering the whole potential of Golden Nonce. Even rev 2.1/2.2 of the boards were able, at certain manipulations with cooling and voltage, to reach results that are not documented by HashFast. That is a fact. This chip has a great potential but not everyone can revise and upgrade the board. Your claim is unjustified.

Your claim is bullshit. Your board can not magically create more hashing engines on the chip. You can claim that your board is more efficient or allows the chip to be clocked higher, but stating that you can produce more hashes per clock than is physically possible is complete bullshit.

Can you explain why your image (linked below for posterity incase it gets deleted from imgur) doesn't conform to the expected relationship between hashrate and WU? The WU total seems to indicate they are actually running around 610GH/s or so, probably with the clock actually set to 800MHz.