[ANN] *PXL COIN* Mandatory Client Update / now supports Kimoto Gravity Well!

[Winky]

Since the dev is inactive the coin is dying. It´s a great idea, so i don´t understand why he isn´t more active. Thumbs down for you, Tripmode.

[dzimbeck]

Look this will NEVER make it if you make people sell their shares BACK to the company. Its a greedy business model!!! Also consider that people are in BITCOIN to make more Bitcoins! They only want to buy some coin that can leverage their bitcoins! I saw the OP and I think it can be improved.

The improvement works like this:
You need a way of registering a wallets balance by the amount of pixels they control. This way, the users of your ads can hold their position on your site
without having to RESELL it to the site! You can still approve the message but a person parking adspace can AT LEAST resell it! Bitcoin is a store of value and if you suck the value out of an early investor you are giving no incentive to advertise. Ads need to be resellable or buyers of ads will be left feeling stupid

If you register wallet balances on your site and those shares allow for the creation of ads, you can charge a fee for maintaining the ads. That way, you still
make your money. The problem with you charging pixels turns it into a ponzi. Since the size of the pixel space wont grow but if value grows then the site owner dumps pixels back in the market inflating it and then demand will not match supply. Just because you say you wont do it does not make people believe you.

THE SOLUTION:
*Register Wallets for FREE for ad space. That way a wallet can sell their ad space. On the blockchain its easy to see who owns what. If a person wants to
sell their coins their wallet balance is different and they lose their AD position. Much better. Now you have an AD that can increase in value and be resold.

*Early investors you need to reimburse their PXLs and register their wallets. So if they transfer them, they lose control of the AD. If they want to sell their
pixels then anyone can replace their AD since the wallet it deregistered. Yes I know you may not want to reimburse original investors but they were the ones
that deserve it the most. After all, they took the risk and supported the idea.

If you dont change your business model someone else will do exactly that. The reason the coins value has no volume and is deflated is because your business
model does not allow for a pixel consumer so make money off an existing ad. Once the coin contains any value the original investor feels like a moron since all
he has is an expensive ad which the owner of the website can dump on the market at any time.

Consumers are naive but they are not THAT stupid. You as a developer stand to make MUCH MORE MONEY if the ads can be resold. Also what is more important? Make a few grand off this pump+dump or having a business model that can be scaled???

Once you change your model, you will succeed.

[Palmdetroit]

Look this will NEVER make it if you make people sell their shares BACK to the company. Its a greedy business model!!! Also consider that people are in BITCOIN to make more Bitcoins! They only want to buy some coin that can leverage their bitcoins! I saw the OP and I think it can be improved.

The improvement works like this:
You need a way of registering a wallets balance by the amount of pixels they control. This way, the users of your ads can hold their position on your site
without having to RESELL it to the site! You can still approve the message but a person parking adspace can AT LEAST resell it! Bitcoin is a store of value and if you suck the value out of an early investor you are giving no incentive to advertise. Ads need to be resellable or buyers of ads will be left feeling stupid

If you register wallet balances on your site and those shares allow for the creation of ads, you can charge a fee for maintaining the ads. That way, you still
make your money. The problem with you charging pixels turns it into a ponzi. Since the size of the pixel space wont grow but if value grows then the site owner dumps pixels back in the market inflating it and then demand will not match supply. Just because you say you wont do it does not make people believe you.

THE SOLUTION:
*Register Wallets for FREE for ad space. That way a wallet can sell their ad space. On the blockchain its easy to see who owns what. If a person wants to
sell their coins their wallet balance is different and they lose their AD position. Much better. Now you have an AD that can increase in value and be resold.

*Early investors you need to reimburse their PXLs and register their wallets. So if they transfer them, they lose control of the AD. If they want to sell their
pixels then anyone can replace their AD since the wallet it deregistered. Yes I know you may not want to reimburse original investors but they were the ones
that deserve it the most. After all, they took the risk and supported the idea.

If you dont change your business model someone else will do exactly that. The reason the coins value has no volume and is deflated is because your business
model does not allow for a pixel consumer so make money off an existing ad. Once the coin contains any value the original investor feels like a moron since all
he has is an expensive ad which the owner of the website can dump on the market at any time.

Consumers are naive but they are not THAT stupid. You as a developer stand to make MUCH MORE MONEY if the ads can be resold. Also what is more important? Make a few grand off this pump+dump or having a business model that can be scaled???

Once you change your model, you will succeed.

Not a bad idea, way back when this was first releases someone suggested coin destruction and I brought it up with Trip, at the time he thought it would make pixels too expensive, but now maybe we can revisit  destruction, this idea above, or maybe someone has another good suggestion.

BTW Last time I chatted with Trip he was getting sick and will try to get a hold of him to see whats up, I just do PXL code dev and not the owner of PXL, I can only make suggestions of what is possible from the code point of view. I also know there is the PXL China out there somewhere with another site to be doing ads, maybe this can be built up too - maybe sites with the most traffic can get PXLs in exchange for more traffic and visibility. Really lots of options of what an be done with PXL

[Tripmode]

I am here and reading all the suggestions. I am working on a marketing strategy with someone right now and ready for the next "wave" of interest in the coin. I know the coin value is down right now as there are lots of coins now and people jump around, but I am confident in our model. There will be no changes to it anytime soon.

As for the notion that it is a "greedy" model where all the coins go back to the devs: was the original "million dollar homepage" greedy? Obviously our model is designed for the dev to profit. But maintaining the website and adding all the images and applying changes is a lot of work. And as the site gains interest someone will have to pay for bandwidth. So the model does allow the devs to "profit" in return for hard work maintaining the site, paying expenses, etc.

And other people can profit as well, specifically early adopters who get coins early at a cheap price.  Isn't that how all coins work? Get in early to make a profit?

Also the hope is that advertisers will "profit" as well with a solid ROI on there investment.

This is supposed to be a "win" for everyone - advertisers, miners, coin investors, devs - it's basic economics and capitalism

Anyway I will have some announcements soon. We have a guerrilla marketing campaign planned and will also do some traditional marketing as well and will need help from the community. Stay tuned and get those cheap coins while you can!

[Tripmode]

Also for the record I have not sold a single PXL for BTC from coins earned from the site. I do have deals with people involved on the development of the coin and website where they get a small percent of the sales from the site and I have made payments to those people. I do not know what they have done with their coins.

But as I said originally, profits have not been sold yet. I am sitting on a good chunk of coins. Eventually they will have to be sold as the model requires it - when that day comes I will let everyone know our plan to responsiblely sell coins to the market. Like I said we will do it in a way that does not cause a big negative effect on the coin.

[Tripmode]

Early investors you need to reimburse their PXLs and register their wallets. So if they transfer them, they lose control of the AD. If they want to sell their
pixels then anyone can replace their AD since the wallet it deregistered. Yes I know you may not want to reimburse original investors but they were the ones
that deserve it the most. After all, they took the risk and supported the idea.

How did early adopters take any risk? The first 400k coins were instamined in 48 hours. I have a feeling those people who mined all those coins sold them and did well. People who bought in early understood the risk as all coins are extremely volatile and subject to wild price swings. People who holds the coins are doing so in the hope that the site gets wildly popular and some day a PXL will be worth a dollar. Remember when this model was the "million dollar homepage" advertisers paid a dollar per pixel. So there his historical price data to back up the notion that PXL could be worth a dollar. I just fail to see the "risk" anyone took and why they are so important that they need to be hugely rewarded.

If you dont change your business model someone else will do exactly that. The reason the coins value has no volume and is deflated is because your business
model does not allow for a pixel consumer so make money off an existing ad. Once the coin contains any value the original investor feels like a moron since all
he has is an expensive ad which the owner of the website can dump on the market at any time.

Once you change your model, you will succeed.

How can we "dump" his ad. If you buy an ad it is on the site forever. There is no other internet advertising where you can place an as forever. And I fail to see how an ad is expensive. For a few dollars right now you get a permanent ad. That buys you just a few clicks on AdWords. It's pretty cheap if you ask me ...

Also what you fail to see is that the devs are adding value to the coin by maintaining and marketing the website. By adding ads (content) it generates more traffic and interest. This is how the coin grows. Someone has to do the work and pay for bandwidth/marketing. It just donesnt magically happen itself. So the dev profits but rememebr the economic definition of profit is "the reward for efficient allocation of resources". If we are profiting we are doing what the market wants, which fules growth for all parties: the advertisers, miners, coin investors, devs. Everyone wins. That's the model.

[dzimbeck]

He can dump his coins. If a person purchasing an ad has to sell his pxl back then the dev can dump those coins once the price goes up. Thats why it has no volume because its just another shitcoin but even worse than a shitcoin because the dev wants you to give the cions back to him for an advertisement on his page. Nobody is going to do that since they would rather pump+dump more profitable coins. Murraycoin has more volume than this coin. I bet you if I made Fishfacebuttnosecoin it would have more volume. Coins that actually have a purpose will do the best. Coins that are original. The dev just admitted no changes will be made to his business model so there you go. It will remain as the lowest volume coin on coinmarketcap. If the Advertisements have no equity then the project is pointless.

If the PXL can not be converted into an ad then the Advertisement is NOT a store of value it defeats the point of owning crypto. If the dev thinks otherwise
he is very very delusional.

The commenter above ADMITS! "This project will help the devs get rich" ...

I think not. And no whale will do anything with this coin because in order to pump it, he needs to convince other whales to buy it so he can dump it. Nobody will buy it knowing that pxl are resold to the dev for ad space. The ads need equity.

Here is the analogy. Its like buying a house but instead of living in it, you give the title to some random guy and he lives in it instead and he can sell it whenever he wants and you just sit with a dumb look on your face. The only option you have it to put a pixelated ad on his unoriginal webpage. The million dollar webpage has been done before. Its not original.

A page where advertisements are a STORE OF VALUE has NOT BEEN DONE. Its is ORIGINAL.

But I can see that the commenter earlier is delusional and thinks that this will somehow make him rich. If he gets rich I only pity him for not captivating the spirit of originality. Dogecoin was more original. If I spend 100 dollars on PXL and it appreciates to 10000 dollars why the hell would I buy ad space with it? What will happen before that is, the people who profited earlier will dump their coins on the market for BTC and pxl will go to dust. Why would they give it for free to the dev so he can dump on the market at any time?? Thats insane.

There is a reason why this coin has a 20 dollar daily volume and that will never change because the Advertisements have no equity.

[dzimbeck]

I also noticed another comment you just made about "all the hard work of maintaining the site"... well yeah changing out images on a bitmap is not that hard. If you charge a percentage you will easily cover that expense. You can even contract that out to india for a dollar an hour. You would still make great money and probably better money since ads with equity have no limit on the increase in equity. But ads without equity are part of a pump and dump. I do web developement and its not as hard as you are making it out to be. You are insinuating value and lying to yourself in the process. I'm not the one you are effectively trying to convince. If you re-read your statements then you may notice the person you just marketed to was yourself. lol... The million dollar webpage was a viral meme type thing. It was original. This is not a win win because if an advertiser buys pxl and posts his ad, he has no equity other than a temporary spot in a very small sub-sector of a predominantly anti-corp target market. If however, you give the ads equity it solves the problem since they have resale value. But I'm not here to argue. I am not going to be revisiting this page I have put in my 2 cents. Good luck.

[Tripmode]

We have added 6 new images to the site - and some rather large ones! Thank you everyone for your business.

[blade87]

How is this not on coinmarketcap yet?

[Zombie123]

Wow thats the worst answer i was expecting, Thanks for clarifying I will sell all my coins as soon as possible. Yes all developers need money for the time invested but there is a limit to their greed.
The good thing is you are upfront about it but that does not cut it. You are favoring the buyers of the coin but not the miner. You devs mostly seems to forget miner are an important part of altcoin as well. Good luck with your coin.

[Winky]

Wow thats the worst answer i was expecting, Thanks for clarifying I will sell all my coins as soon as possible. Yes all developers need money for the time invested but there is a limit to their greed.
The good thing is you are upfront about it but that does not cut it. You are favoring the buyers of the coin but not the miner. You devs mostly seems to forget miner are an important part of altcoin as well. Good luck with your coin.

Couldn´t say it better. With this current model pxlcoin is a total ripoff by the dev. Sorry, but the coin could be so much more. And it is so much work to upload the images? There are only ~40 images on the site yet.

[dzimbeck]

I am glad you guys agree. I only brought it up because I almost advertised on his site. So I want to clarify one last time...

I bought pxl and wanted to place an ad. So I went on the site and saw I have to give 1 pxl per pixel (basically 100% of what I invested). Lets say I buy an ad that is 1000 pxl. Now I am an advertiser. Here is the problem: If the value goes up, I can not sell my pxl. I just gave it to the dev. That is what I mean by no equity! If the dev simply charges %5 to upload an AD and registers the wallet balance (advertiser needs to maintain the purchased 1000 pxl image with 1000 pxl but he pays 5% so lets say 50 pxl to the dev for maintaining his ad.) Now if the price goes up, the person advertising www.whatever.com can SELL his pxl. The dev will see this sale and remove the advertisement since the last holder lost position.

How does it currently work?
If I buy an ad for www.whatever.com I have to give all the pxl back to the dev. So if its 1000 pxl I give 1000 pxl. If the value goes up, the advertiser cant sell his pxl BECAUSE HE GAVE IT TO THE DEV!!! That makes no sense at all. It defeats the purpose of crypto. I am sure the dev is a nice guy but the model makes no sense. What makes it even worse is the dev can dump on the market whenever he wants. That causes inflation because now there are more PXL than there is pixels in circulation! Inflation will make the price drop and so will any dev dumps to profit. In order for any coin to increase in value it needs to be deflationary. Also miners get screwed because the dev will recontrol all their hard earned mined coins. Even bagholders are screwed because the dev will hold millions of pixels that he can sell at any time. That is what I mean by no equity. Now the dev says he wont dump the coins. So even if buyers take that huge leap of faith, it still wont work because any ADVERTISER WILL NOT PAY FOR AN AD THAT HE CAN NOT RESELL ESPECIALLY WHEN HE GIVES HIS PXL BACK TO DEV.

The fix?
Any prospective advertiser can resell his ad. So all he needs to do is pay the dev a fee for upload or a percentage. Dev will know who owns what by wallet balance since a wallet with a balance of 1000 pxl can be entitled to a 1000 pxl ad. (he would just pay a small fee to the dev to maintain or upload it) if the value of the coin increases the dev profits anyway and so does the miners and buyers since the dev is not controling the market by possessing a majority of its volume. His fees being smaller, would actually allow the dev to reap bigger profits since it would allow the market to expand. Peercoin is a fantastic example of this theory since they implement .01 ppc fee but its destroy through inflation. So the market maintains its value but can still increase in high magnitude.

Funny thing is, even if the dev wanted to make money off the current model he cant because he controls too much of the market. So the second he starts selling he devalues his own currency. That really is what a ponzi is. Wether or not the dev realizes it, its very similar to a ponzi because he effectively controls almost 100% of the market share. That damages miners beyond belief. He said earlier that he will "warn" people before he sells??? That makes no sense either because then people will dump the coin. That would destroy its value and the dev would not profit. He is either the one dumping or the one being dumped on! Now think about this for a second. Which would you rather be??

[Tripmode]

How is this not on coinmarketcap yet?

The coin is listed - they only list the top 100 coins ok the first page. There is a link to show ALL coins. When you click that you will see we are listed

[johnywalker]

Please advise. What are the best nodes for pxlcoind.conf ?
I am using two right now and it is not synced.

[Tripmode]

Please advise. What are the best nodes for pxlcoind.conf ?
I am using two right now and it is not synced.

Try adding this to pxlcoin.conf

addnode=76.74.178.235
addnode=69.90.132.227
addnode=69.90.132.42
addnode=115.28.161.45
addnode=69.90.132.232
addnode=96.237.61.23

[pyrofade]

Trip, how's that marketing strategy coming up?

[Tripmode]

Trip, how's that marketing strategy coming up?

Good, we are advertising on CoinURL. I also have a press release almost ready to send to a bunch of blogs and website - and not just crypto related sites. All news and tech sites.

I will post a copy of the press release here when I am done with the final draft.

If anyone has any connections in the press please let me know!

[niothor]

Checking the last 10-20 pages of the forum for less exposed coins , run into this , not too much talk lately , is this coin abandoned or this thing going on?

[volkantipi]

which're in the pool? I'm here, but does not confirm.

http://pool.pxlcoin.com/