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November 30, 2014, 05:54:27 PM
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It doesn't matter what page you open in this thread, you'll see the same discussion throughout every page.

And I'm sure it will continue in 2015 as well, you guys are consistent, that I have to admit.

Yup, the same arguments will be stated again and again from both sides until either PBMining finally is able to prove their mining or the business goes belly up.

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November 30, 2014, 05:58:55 PM
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On one acc, I have 1350 GHS, according to the dashboard, I should get 0.10143842
I received this amount. To the satoshi. So no difference between the dashboard and the payout.

But I also believe I should have received around 0.1179. Strange...

So u have got 86% of the theoretical yield. Looks like all the payments are within the range of 80% to 90%. Is it the historical data or PB mining used to pay 100% at some point of time ? Can u guys plz check your previous week's payment and report here ?

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November 30, 2014, 06:06:41 PM
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Too many red flags here as I said before get your money back and mine with a company that can prove there hash and have a proven track record.

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November 30, 2014, 06:07:53 PM
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Last week was approx. 0.110. But there was a diff jump in between.
To be honest, I never checked the numbers. I mean, I would have remarked
if payout is only like 70 % or less. But I admit I might have missed
wrong payouts before,  if they were in the +/- 15% range.
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November 30, 2014, 06:45:21 PM
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On one acc, I have 1350 GHS, according to the dashboard, I should get 0.10143842
I received this amount. To the satoshi. So no difference between the dashboard and the payout.

But I also believe I should have received around 0.1179. Strange...

So u have got 86% of the theoretical yield. Looks like all the payments are within the range of 80% to 90%. Is it the historical data or PB mining used to pay 100% at some point of time ? Can u guys plz check your previous week's payment and report here ?

Can someone tell me why I got -0.010100 btc after mining for a week in cex.io?  I have 500 ghs.
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November 30, 2014, 06:54:47 PM
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On one acc, I have 1350 GHS, according to the dashboard, I should get 0.10143842
I received this amount. To the satoshi. So no difference between the dashboard and the payout.

But I also believe I should have received around 0.1179. Strange...

So u have got 86% of the theoretical yield. Looks like all the payments are within the range of 80% to 90%. Is it the historical data or PB mining used to pay 100% at some point of time ? Can u guys plz check your previous week's payment and report here ?

Can someone tell me why I got -0.010100 btc after mining for a week in cex.io?  I have 500 ghs.

meh. let me guess.

because you were foolish enough to fund a 500GH/s worker on the cex.io pool ?

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November 30, 2014, 06:58:27 PM
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On one acc, I have 1350 GHS, according to the dashboard, I should get 0.10143842
I received this amount. To the satoshi. So no difference between the dashboard and the payout.

But I also believe I should have received around 0.1179. Strange...

So u have got 86% of the theoretical yield. Looks like all the payments are within the range of 80% to 90%. Is it the historical data or PB mining used to pay 100% at some point of time ? Can u guys plz check your previous week's payment and report here ?

Can someone tell me why I got -0.010100 btc after mining for a week in cex.io?  I have 500 ghs.

cex has had some bad luck lately and they had a 9h block last nigh which resulted in that maintenance costs where approx 4.4x bigger than the reward
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November 30, 2014, 06:58:48 PM
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Can it (pbminings bad payouts today) be explained by bad solo (or pool) luck? Nobody knows how they are supposed
to mine, so if they claim they had bad luck this week, there's no way to refute that claim.
I'm not so sure how probable it is with 4.3 PHs to have such a bad luck that could explain this -15%. I tend to believe
it's not entirely impossible, but maybe someone can make a short calculation..
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November 30, 2014, 07:02:54 PM
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Can it (pbminings bad payouts today) be explained by bad solo (or pool) luck? Nobody knows how they are supposed
to mine, so if they claim they had bad luck this week, there's no way to refute that claim.
I'm not so sure how probable it is with 4.3 PHs to have such a bad luck that could explain this -15%. I tend to believe
it's not entirely impossible, but maybe someone can make a short calculation..

victim + ponzi = scam


you're welcome.

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November 30, 2014, 07:06:42 PM
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Can it (pbminings bad payouts today) be explained by bad solo (or pool) luck? Nobody knows how they are supposed
to mine, so if they claim they had bad luck this week, there's no way to refute that claim.
I'm not so sure how probable it is with 4.3 PHs to have such a bad luck that could explain this -15%. I tend to believe
it's not entirely impossible, but maybe someone can make a short calculation..

victim + ponzi = scam


you're welcome.

It can well be defined as a mining variance by PB. How much is the return of CEX/AM Hash last week against a certain hash power ? Do u have any data ?

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November 30, 2014, 07:07:57 PM
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Can it (pbminings bad payouts today) be explained by bad solo (or pool) luck? Nobody knows how they are supposed
to mine, so if they claim they had bad luck this week, there's no way to refute that claim.

AFAIK (corrections are welcome), pbmining prior to today always paid the theoretical yield down to a few digits. Perhaps some of you who have not recently purchased a contract, can dig up some older payments and dates and post them so we can check.
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November 30, 2014, 07:11:16 PM
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Can it (pbminings bad payouts today) be explained by bad solo (or pool) luck? Nobody knows how they are supposed
to mine, so if they claim they had bad luck this week, there's no way to refute that claim.
I'm not so sure how probable it is with 4.3 PHs to have such a bad luck that could explain this -15%. I tend to believe
it's not entirely impossible, but maybe someone can make a short calculation..

victim + ponzi = scam


you're welcome.

It can well be defined as a mining variance by PB. How much is the return of CEX/AM Hash last week against a certain hash power ? Do u have any data ?

but pbmining already stated earlier in this thread, quite categorically, that the rewards are based on fixed calculations. They even posted the actual calculation formula which they use. Posted way back in the spring.

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November 30, 2014, 07:11:48 PM
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On one acc, I have 1350 GHS, according to the dashboard, I should get 0.10143842
I received this amount. To the satoshi. So no difference between the dashboard and the payout.

But I also believe I should have received around 0.1179. Strange...

So u have got 86% of the theoretical yield. Looks like all the payments are within the range of 80% to 90%. Is it the historical data or PB mining used to pay 100% at some point of time ? Can u guys plz check your previous week's payment and report here ?

Can someone tell me why I got -0.010100 btc after mining for a week in cex.io?  I have 500 ghs.

meh. let me guess.

because you were foolish enough to fund a 500GH/s worker on the cex.io pool ?

Why is it foolish to point to CEX ? Are not they legit ?

He has got -0.010100BTC instead of 0.04367671BTC Cheesy

...this is height. At least in this case PB has outperformed CEX... LoLz Tongue

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November 30, 2014, 07:13:40 PM
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On one acc, I have 1350 GHS, according to the dashboard, I should get 0.10143842
I received this amount. To the satoshi. So no difference between the dashboard and the payout.

But I also believe I should have received around 0.1179. Strange...

So u have got 86% of the theoretical yield. Looks like all the payments are within the range of 80% to 90%. Is it the historical data or PB mining used to pay 100% at some point of time ? Can u guys plz check your previous week's payment and report here ?

Can someone tell me why I got -0.010100 btc after mining for a week in cex.io?  I have 500 ghs.

meh. let me guess.

because you were foolish enough to fund a 500GH/s worker on the cex.io pool ?

Why is it foolish to point to CEX ? Are not they legit ?

He has got -0.010100BTC instead of 0.04367671BTC Cheesy

...this is height. At least in this case PB has outperformed CEX... LoLz Tongue

haha, aye.


i just don't trust any pool (apart from using a p2pool node) that declares that they are 0%
there is no such thing.

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November 30, 2014, 07:13:46 PM
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Can it (pbminings bad payouts today) be explained by bad solo (or pool) luck? Nobody knows how they are supposed
to mine, so if they claim they had bad luck this week, there's no way to refute that claim.
I'm not so sure how probable it is with 4.3 PHs to have such a bad luck that could explain this -15%. I tend to believe
it's not entirely impossible, but maybe someone can make a short calculation..

victim + ponzi = scam


you're welcome.

It can well be defined as a mining variance by PB. How much is the return of CEX/AM Hash last week against a certain hash power ? Do u have any data ?

but pbmining already stated earlier in this thread, quite categorically, that the rewards are based on fixed calculations. They even posted the actual calculation formula which they use. Posted way back in the spring.

Its good if someone can point to that link...

Can it (pbminings bad payouts today) be explained by bad solo (or pool) luck? Nobody knows how they are supposed
to mine, so if they claim they had bad luck this week, there's no way to refute that claim.

AFAIK (corrections are welcome), pbmining prior to today always paid the theoretical yield down to a few digits. Perhaps some of you who have not recently purchased a contract, can dig up some older payments and dates and post them so we can check.


This data is actually the need of the moment.

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November 30, 2014, 07:20:29 PM
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Here is some of my payments I have received

9.11
513,3GHs
https://blockchain.info/tx/0af4647985b9e1d7e4d9767c8bba27b9678f84390b596c93c53532177f23ac1d

16.11
550,8GHs
https://blockchain.info/tx/ef19fee6af7bb739c1c8743cca620b6f5725f4f35fd28cda993cd5ca5c59ce72

23.11
555,8GHs
https://blockchain.info/tx/4e21d59f789db80d242f841aa20d4278b9e737438c7d815b3410fbd567c96af8

30.11
555,8GHs
https://blockchain.info/tx/5947d006cb9d7fd82548487652bc75882465d840b300b5e00cc44a07835ba4b7
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November 30, 2014, 07:20:59 PM
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How much is the return of CEX/AM Hash last week against a certain hash power ? Do u have any data ?

You can view the historical data for AMHash on the Havelock website. Just click the Dividends tab.

Code:
Announcement Date 	Payment Date 	Amount (BTC/Unit)
2014-11-30 2014-11-30 0.00000816
2014-11-29 2014-11-29 0.00000806
2014-11-28 2014-11-28 0.00000807
2014-11-27 2014-11-27 0.00000807
2014-11-26 2014-11-26 0.00000813
2014-11-25 2014-11-25 0.00000822
2014-11-24 2014-11-24 0.00000805
2014-11-23 2014-11-23 0.00000791
2014-11-22 2014-11-22 0.00000784
2014-11-21 2014-11-21 0.00000784
2014-11-20 2014-11-20 0.00000802
2014-11-19 2014-11-19 0.00000817
2014-11-18 2014-11-18 0.00000847
2014-11-17 2014-11-17 0.00000859
2014-11-16 2014-11-16 0.00000842
2014-11-15 2014-11-15 0.00000850
2014-11-14 2014-11-14 0.00000873
2014-11-13 2014-11-13 0.00000879
2014-11-12 2014-11-12 0.00000845
2014-11-11 2014-11-11 0.00000830
2014-11-10 2014-11-10 0.00000824
2014-11-09 2014-11-09 0.00000805
2014-11-08 2014-11-08 0.00000795
2014-11-07 2014-11-07 0.00000799
2014-11-06 2014-11-06 0.00000788
2014-11-05 2014-11-05 0.00000822
2014-11-04 2014-11-04 0.00000895
2014-11-03 2014-11-03 0.00000901
2014-11-02 2014-11-02 0.00000894
2014-11-01 2014-11-01 0.00000898
2014-10-31 2014-10-31 0.00000927

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November 30, 2014, 07:27:40 PM
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I cant make out from those transactions how much you were paid, because I dont know your address. The transaction contains 100s of payouts.
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November 30, 2014, 07:54:05 PM
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Can it (pbminings bad payouts today) be explained by bad solo (or pool) luck? Nobody knows how they are supposed
to mine, so if they claim they had bad luck this week, there's no way to refute that claim.
I'm not so sure how probable it is with 4.3 PHs to have such a bad luck that could explain this -15%. I tend to believe
it's not entirely impossible, but maybe someone can make a short calculation..

victim + ponzi = scam


you're welcome.

It can well be defined as a mining variance by PB. How much is the return of CEX/AM Hash last week against a certain hash power ? Do u have any data ?

but pbmining already stated earlier in this thread, quite categorically, that the rewards are based on fixed calculations. They even posted the actual calculation formula which they use. Posted way back in the spring.

Its good if someone can point to that link...

post has been deleted. it was on or around 5th March 2014


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November 30, 2014, 08:10:56 PM
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Someone should write to PB's support. It makes no sense for them to go down with payouts to 85%,
in case they are legit as well as in the case they are a ponzi. I can only think of a technical
error as of now.
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