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"Common rogue from Russia with a bare ass."
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December 07, 2014, 10:44:15 PM |
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holly shit you are dumb- its just a counter - you dont think those numbers are actually tied to any machine do you? if what you are saying is true,(pb) then their would be variance over and above 99% as much as there is below --- think before you insist on being stupid
It's ALL speculation ! Until PBM come clean about it NOBODY including you or me knows precisely what's going on with their operation ! An excellent basis on which to invest in them.
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Extraordinary Claims require Extraordinary Evidence
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btcminer84
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December 07, 2014, 10:47:47 PM |
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It's ALL speculation ! Until PBM come clean about it NOBODY including you or me knows precisely what's going on with their operation !
It is purely scam operation <<< Most precisely as possible.
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odlal
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December 07, 2014, 10:50:25 PM |
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It's ALL speculation ! Until PBM come clean about it NOBODY including you or me knows precisely what's going on with their operation !
It is purely scam operation <<< Most precisely as possible. Yes perhaps !
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AirWolf
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Havelock robbed me 170BTC
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December 07, 2014, 10:52:19 PM |
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Mr. PBMINING:
I can testify that those threats are being made, however some will be empty and some may not, i think the only thing that will get the things back to normal is to FIX THE LOWERING PAYOUTS PROBLEM, PAY YOUR CUSTOMERS, AND BUSINESS AS USUAL.
We know you have the money, just do the right thing, we know who you are, so there is no going back from there, now that we know you name and how do you look like, this is the best time to act as a serious businessman and from that point forward, everything will be better for you and for us.
Don't play the victim card: Everyone is expecting to see how you deal with this, you are young and have a lot of life in front of you, but also remember that The Net Does Not Forget, so it depends on you if that lot of life in front of you will be easier or tougher, because 6000+ people badmouthing and threatening for the some years to come, not counting some ugly threats will make you desire that you have come back to this moment and acted like you were expected to act.
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HAVELOCK ROBBED ME MORE THAN 170BTC - BEWARE OF THIS THIEVES!
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December 07, 2014, 10:56:01 PM |
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holly shit you are dumb- its just a counter - you dont think those numbers are actually tied to any machine do you? if what you are saying is true,(pb) then their would be variance over and above 99% as much as there is below --- think before you insist on being stupid
It's ALL speculation ! Until PBM come clean about it NOBODY including you or me knows precisely what's going on with their operation ! how fuking dumb are you. i am not talking about a single thing that can be speculated.what i said is undeniable fact of all things not just mining.god dam it shut up stop lie trolling.if its down 10 % there would be days above 10%. thats true for everything in the world ever.that is not up for debate stop talking , go to a thread for yourself and name it "fantasy made up bull shit thread- where mathimatical facts are not real!!!"
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odlal
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December 07, 2014, 11:06:54 PM |
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holly shit you are dumb- its just a counter - you dont think those numbers are actually tied to any machine do you? if what you are saying is true,(pb) then their would be variance over and above 99% as much as there is below --- think before you insist on being stupid
It's ALL speculation ! Until PBM come clean about it NOBODY including you or me knows precisely what's going on with their operation ! how fuking dumb are you. i am not talking about a single thing that can be speculated.what i said is undeniable fact of all things not just mining.god dam it shut up stop lie trolling.if its down 10 % there would be days above 10%. thats true for everything in the world ever.that is not up for debate stop talking , go to a thread for yourself and name it "fantasy made up bull shit thread- where mathimatical facts are not real!!!" Ah but Mathematics is what us Humans use as a representation of the Universe ... have you heard of Quantum Physics by the way ? It sort of puts a different light on things that way Like for example you think of your Body as a whole but actually it's made up of a vast number of Electrons and Protons etc which are in themselves mostly empty space ... so it depends on the context as to whether or not Maths can be said to be Factual ! But that's getting off the topic somewhat My point stands though : You do not and cannot KNOW how their Payouts are calculated, but yes you are free to make an Educated Guess just like everyone else ...
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Syke
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December 07, 2014, 11:14:40 PM |
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My point stands though : You do not and cannot KNOW how their Payouts are calculated, but yes you are free to make an Educated Guess just like everyone else ...
It used to be posted on the website but have since removed it so they can change the terms of the contract anytime they want. https://web.archive.org/web/20140719195343/http://www.pbmining.com/At Piggyback Mining, we cover the electricity costs and all pool fees.
Oh, look, they removed that from the website also. Anyone who ordered a contract before that was removed from the website is being stolen from.
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Buy & Hold
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btcminer84
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December 07, 2014, 11:17:56 PM |
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@ odlal, gadur and (m)other fuckers: GH/s means Hash power (Gigahashes per second). The difficulty is another important factor to put into the calculation. It is as simple as that. Plus the time (604800 seconds per week) and the time to find the block based on the difficulty, GH/s and time frame. Thats all. But PBMining is skimming since a few weeks.
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kotwica666
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December 07, 2014, 11:19:53 PM |
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all right. but where is the evidence? just asking?
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galdur
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December 07, 2014, 11:21:29 PM |
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@ odlal, gadur and (m)other fuckers: GH/s means Hash power (Gigahashes per second). The difficulty is another important factor to put into the calculation. It is as simple as that. Plus the time (604800 seconds per week) and the time to find the block based on the difficulty, GH/s and time frame. Thats all. But PBMining is skimming since a few weeks.
OK, so this skimming is evidently widespread in the cloudmining industry. Have you pointed this out yet in other threads ?
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December 07, 2014, 11:23:39 PM |
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holly shit you are dumb- its just a counter - you dont think those numbers are actually tied to any machine do you? if what you are saying is true,(pb) then their would be variance over and above 99% as much as there is below --- think before you insist on being stupid
It's ALL speculation ! Until PBM come clean about it NOBODY including you or me knows precisely what's going on with their operation ! how fuking dumb are you. i am not talking about a single thing that can be speculated.what i said is undeniable fact of all things not just mining.god dam it shut up stop lie trolling.if its down 10 % there would be days above 10%. thats true for everything in the world ever.that is not up for debate stop talking , go to a thread for yourself and name it "fantasy made up bull shit thread- where mathimatical facts are not real!!!" Ah but Mathematics is what us Humans use as a representation of the Universe ... have you heard of Quantum Physics by the way ? It sort of puts a different light on things that way Like for example you think of your Body as a whole but actually it's made up of a vast number of Electrons and Protons etc which are in themselves mostly empty space ... so it depends on the context as to whether or not Maths can be said to be Factual ! But that's getting off the topic somewhat My point stands though : You do not and cannot KNOW how their Payouts are calculated, but yes you are free to make an Educated Guess just like everyone else ... you are the dumbest mother fucker on earth,you know what a gh pays out , we know if the payout is below that, we know that the payout was exactly 99% eversingle time. then with 99% every time the gh started to be taken away,we know that, we know that pb and when i say pb i am refering to you (because nobody gets robbed and defends the person stealing. so you are pb) we know that pb started to take away from the payout. we know that people started to notice. and we know you are a made up person who just said a bunch of shit that didnt make sense. we know that if it were mining based the payout would not be 99% and less than 99% without being over 99% as well . so we can say with absolute certainty that the way the calculations were performed were wrong. we dont have to wait for an explanation of what happend to know with certanty that you pb were wrong. if what you said was true btc per hour would vary and it does not. the pb calculations would not pass a p-test and the null hypothesis would be rejected
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galdur
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December 07, 2014, 11:25:07 PM |
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Payouts per gh per day SHA
PBM 1000 = skimming
Genesis Mining 1000 = skimming
AMHASH1 800 = skimming
Hashie 750 = skimming
GAW 700 = skimming
Can´t have it both ways.
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galdur
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December 07, 2014, 11:28:34 PM |
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So, is this skimming scandal being discussed around these threads ?
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btcminer84
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December 07, 2014, 11:31:53 PM |
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@ investor respect, I totally agree with you in all points posted in this threads.
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galdur
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December 07, 2014, 11:32:47 PM |
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How about this:
PBM 1000 = skimming
Genesis Mining 1000 = just because
AMHASH1 800 = that´s how it is
Hashie 750 = high electricity costs
GAW 700 = you dumbass don´t get it
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btcminer84
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December 07, 2014, 11:38:17 PM |
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PBMining is scam due to the reduced payouts. forum members like odlal, pbmining, galdur and those forists are Jason "PBMining.com" Boyko itself.
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galdur
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December 07, 2014, 11:39:34 PM |
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PBMining is scam due to the reduced payouts. forum members like odlal, pbmining and galdur other "new" forum members are Jason "PBMining.com" Boyko itself.
How about putting your finger more on the skimming argument.
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galdur
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December 07, 2014, 11:48:46 PM |
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Let´s say Genesis Mining started paying 900 tomorrow.
Would this mean that they started skimming and therefore
are a scam ?
What if they paid 1100 two months ago and it fell to 1000
a month ago? Would they have been running a scam for two
months now?
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galdur
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December 07, 2014, 11:52:09 PM |
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I sincerely hope that asking for definition of loose terms
being thrown around isn´t considered rude.
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jimmothy
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December 07, 2014, 11:52:48 PM |
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How about this:
PBM 1000 = skimming
Genesis Mining 1000 = just because
AMHASH1 800 = that´s how it is
Hashie 750 = high electricity costs
GAW 700 = you dumbass don´t get it
Do you not understand how contracts work? AMhash, hashie, GAW, Hashnest, Cointerra, cex.io , zeushash and so on, all have daily fees clearly disclosed. PBmining has never had fees and always paid the theoretical yield (zero variance and zero electricity costs)
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