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September 08, 2011, 12:13:01 AM
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This video was uploaded at the same time when Bitcoin was launched in Feb 2009:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNBMdDaYhZA&t=1h1m4s

Watch the next 2 minutes after the linked time. 1:02:45 is where it's at. Have we found our man?
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September 08, 2011, 12:18:23 AM
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September 08, 2011, 12:26:42 AM
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Nah, he was speaking in very general terms about some way to send money, quickly, easily and anonymously to content creators. That's not far off from what he's been evangelizing for decades, so I see no significance in his mentioning it at any particular time in 2009.
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September 08, 2011, 12:28:08 AM
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Couldn't be. He's not Japanese.  Cheesy

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September 08, 2011, 12:28:36 AM
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More evidence, here is another Stallman 2009 video in which he discusses possible anonymous currency systems:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ&t=1m50s

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September 08, 2011, 12:30:49 AM
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Sounds more like Flattr than Bitcoin
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September 08, 2011, 12:34:02 AM
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Im watching the video. I'm intrigued. You could be correct. He fits the profile in many ways. I wonder what he knows about cryptography.

"As the hacker culture at the MIT laboratory declined with the instatement of password restrictions, Stallman decided to quit his full time job in 1984 to pursue his side project, Project GNU. In 1985, he published the GNU Manifesto, which articulated his motivations for creating a free operating system compatible with UNIX. Soon after, he founded the Free Software Foundation and popularized the concept of copyleft. In 1989, Stallman also released the first program-independent license called the GNU General Public License. By this time, most elements of the GNU undertaking were complete. However, the project was stuck on the advancement of the operating kernel. Simultaneously, a Finnish developer, Linus Torvalds, created a kernel called Linux based off of GNU development tools. With the integration of Linux into the project, the GNU/Linux operating system was born.

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Stallman pioneered the concept of copyleft, and he is the main author of several copyleft licenses including the GNU General Public License, the most widely used free software license.[5] Since the mid-1990s, Stallman has spent most of his time advocating for free software, as well as campaigning against software patents, digital rights management, and what he sees as excessive extension of copyright laws. Stallman has also developed a number of pieces of widely used software, including the original Emacs,[6] the GNU Compiler Collection,[7] the GNU Debugger,[8] and various tools in the GNU coreutils.[9] He co-founded the League for Programming Freedom in 1989.

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September 08, 2011, 12:34:40 AM
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Stallman is the last person who'd hide behind a pseudonym.  If he believed in it, he'd gladly put his name on it, and deal with the courts if necessary.
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September 08, 2011, 12:35:05 AM
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I believe Satoshi will come back down here to save us all if things goes really bad for Bitcoins.
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September 08, 2011, 12:39:44 AM
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I believe Satoshi will come back down here to save us all if things goes really bad for Bitcoins.

Actually, one of the SolidCoin people has apparently been claiming that Satoshi has dumped his bitcoins and invested in SolidCoins instead.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=42069.msg512976#msg512976

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September 08, 2011, 12:40:08 AM
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Stallman is the last person who'd hide behind a pseudonym.  If he believed in it, he'd gladly put his name on it, and deal with the courts if necessary.


Agreed.
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September 08, 2011, 01:04:34 AM
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Stallman is the last person who'd hide behind a pseudonym.  If he believed in it, he'd gladly put his name on it, and deal with the courts if necessary.

Not only that, but he almost certainly would have put it under the GPL license (bitcoin is under the MIT license).

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September 08, 2011, 01:21:33 AM
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Stallman is the last person who'd hide behind a pseudonym.  If he believed in it, he'd gladly put his name on it, and deal with the courts if necessary.

Not only that, but he almost certainly would have put it under the GPL license (bitcoin is under the MIT license).

Heh... That pretty much settles it.
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September 08, 2011, 02:02:38 AM
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I believe Satoshi will come back down here to save us all if things goes really bad for Bitcoins.

Actually, one of the SolidCoin people has apparently been claiming that Satoshi has dumped his bitcoins and invested in SolidCoins instead.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=42069.msg512976#msg512976

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That's typical of the guy behind SolidCoin and just goes to show how much everyone show avoid SC like the plague. He's bad news.
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September 08, 2011, 02:22:12 AM
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This video was uploaded at the same time when Bitcoin was launched in Feb 2009:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNBMdDaYhZA&t=1h1m4s

Watch the next 2 minutes after the linked time. 1:02:45 is where it's at. Have we found our man?

Correct me if I am wrong, but Bitcoin was introduced in November 2008, not Feb 2009.

Here's Satoshi's first post, http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg09959.html
Dated November first 2008.

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Bitcoin pioneer. An apostle of Satoshi Nakamoto. A crusader for a new, better, tech-driven society. A dreamer.

More about me: http://CharlieShrem.com
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September 08, 2011, 02:31:24 AM
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Take a look at the YouTube stats of this video. Look at what link is at the top. Note the view count for that link.
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September 08, 2011, 02:39:00 AM
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Take a look at the YouTube stats of this video. Look at what link is at the top. Note the view count for that link.

Phin, step away from the conspiracy theory  Grin
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September 08, 2011, 02:45:44 AM
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I believe Satoshi will come back down here to save us all if things goes really bad for Bitcoins.

Actually, one of the SolidCoin people has apparently been claiming that Satoshi has dumped his bitcoins and invested in SolidCoins instead.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=42069.msg512976#msg512976

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That's typical of the guy behind SolidCoin and just goes to show how much everyone show avoid SC like the plague. He's bad news.

It's also easily checked.  Have any of the first 10 blocks moved?  The first ten are almost certainly Satoshi's, the genesis block definitely is.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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September 08, 2011, 02:49:04 AM
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Nah, he was speaking in very general terms about some way to send money, quickly, easily and anonymously to content creators. That's not far off from what he's been evangelizing for decades, so I see no significance in his mentioning it at any particular time in 2009.

Has RMS made any public comments about Bitcoin?  In light of his past commentaries, he should have something notable to say about Bitcoin.  If his public mentions of such cryptocurrency ideas cease after Bitcoin's metoric rise around October 2010, about the same time that Satoshi disappeared, this might be a significant link.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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September 08, 2011, 02:55:26 AM
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If RMS were Satoshi, the client code would be better.

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