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February 06, 2013, 03:34:53 PM
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Couldn't be. He's not Japanese.  Cheesy
Seriously, this should not be limited to any one in particular. I would use the pseudonym Cheese Salad, would that necessarily mean that I am a salad?

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February 06, 2013, 03:37:37 PM
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Couldn't be. He's not Japanese.  Cheesy
Seriously, this should not be limited to any one in particular. I would use the pseudonym Cheese Salad, would that necessarily mean that I am a salad?

Congratulations. You just resurrected an 18 month old thread.

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February 06, 2013, 03:40:11 PM
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I met Stallman in the London conference and he was quite clueless about bitcoin as a whole.

I doubt he's such a good actor.

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February 06, 2013, 03:42:39 PM
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Remember, when you point your finger at someone, three fingers point back at you. Besides, his exposure may lead to danger and he may have a family to consider. Think of the children! And in the final analysis, isn't there a little Satoshi in all of us?  Grin

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February 06, 2013, 04:00:53 PM
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I met Stallman in the London conference and he was quite clueless about bitcoin as a whole.

I doubt he's such a good actor.
This is my conclusion too after I heard him talking about BTC.
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February 06, 2013, 04:22:38 PM
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Couldn't be. He's not Japanese.  Cheesy
Seriously, this should not be limited to any one in particular. I would use the pseudonym Cheese Salad, would that necessarily mean that I am a salad?

Congratulations. You just resurrected an 18 month old thread.

...by misunderstanding a sarcastic post, none the less.
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February 06, 2013, 04:46:55 PM
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Hell no, Stallman is quite misguided when it comes to economics. He actually proposed that businesses should be taxed ever increasing amounts as they grow in size, to disincentivize "too big to fail." While I think he has a lot of useful things to say about copyright and patents, it is clear that he's a Statist and at odds with the Bitcoin philosophy.
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February 06, 2013, 06:27:59 PM
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Couldn't be. He's not Japanese.  Cheesy
Seriously, this should not be limited to any one in particular. I would use the pseudonym Cheese Salad, would that necessarily mean that I am a salad?

Congratulations. You just resurrected an 18 month old thread.

...by misunderstanding a sarcastic post, none the less.

Win/win!  Grin


...by misunderstanding a sarcastic post, none the less.

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February 06, 2013, 06:37:17 PM
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Couldn't be. He's not Japanese.  Cheesy
Seriously, this should not be limited to any one in particular. I would use the pseudonym Cheese Salad, would that necessarily mean that I am a salad?

Congratulations. You just resurrected an 18 month old thread.

...by misunderstanding a sarcastic post, none the less.

Win/win!  Grin


...by misunderstanding a sarcastic post, none the less.

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February 07, 2013, 04:31:44 AM
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I thought Bruce Schneier more than Richard...he does have a section on sending money using cryptography in Applied Cryptography.

I actually emailed both Eric Raymond and Bruce Schneider about bitcoin.  IIRC, Eric Raymond denied being Satoshi, yet thought the concept of bitcoin was interesting.  Bruce Schneider merely responded to note that he was aware of bitcoin, but offered no opinion on the system.  This was about two years ago.

BTW, Bruce Schneier did not deny being Satoshi in his response; and as far as I know, has not really commented publicly on Bitcoin except for a couple of minor posts last year to imply that he didn't understand it, which I don't believe.

If Satoshi is any one person, and is already even moderately famous for his existing skillset (and a man, which is also quite an assumption) then Bruce Schneier is still high on my list.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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February 07, 2013, 07:37:13 AM
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Stallman is the last person who'd hide behind a pseudonym.  If he believed in it, he'd gladly put his name on it, and deal with the courts if necessary.

This.
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February 07, 2013, 07:38:35 AM
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Jesus Christ, how have you guys not realized that Satoshi is Gavin Andresen. And Satoshi Nakamoto is just his edgy sounding nickname.

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February 07, 2013, 07:57:26 AM
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Stallman is the last person who'd hide behind a pseudonym.  If he believed in it, he'd gladly put his name on it, and deal with the courts if necessary.



What if he didn't act anonymously to protect himself, but because he came to the conclusion that Bitcoin could not succeed any other way?



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February 07, 2013, 07:58:58 AM
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Satoshi Nakamoto is not Richard Stallman and this is why:

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Bitcoin v0.1 released

Satoshi Nakamoto Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:05:49 -0800

Announcing the first release of Bitcoin, a new electronic cash
system that uses a peer-to-peer network to prevent double-spending.
It's completely decentralized with no server or central authority.


See bitcoin.org for screenshots.

Download link:
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/bitcoin/bitcoin-0.1.0.rar

Windows only for now.  Open source C++ code is included.

- Unpack the files into a directory
- Run BITCOIN.EXE
- It automatically connects to other nodes ...
Bold my emphasis.  from http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg10142.html

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February 07, 2013, 09:09:55 AM
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Satoshi develop on window?  Shocked

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February 07, 2013, 03:17:25 PM
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Jesus Christ, how have you guys not realized that Satoshi is Gavin Andresen. And Satoshi Nakamoto is just his edgy sounding nickname.

Gavin is not Satoshi.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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February 07, 2013, 06:16:34 PM
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Japanese Stallman still would've called it "GnuCoin"
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February 10, 2013, 02:54:02 PM
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SNIP
Congratulations. You just resurrected an 18 month old thread.
Just look up Bitcoin 2012 London: Richard Stallman. Maybe it was just I who resurrected you.

If you cared on the subject you would already had watched Stallman here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN6Q--zqroM
I guessed you just wanted to tell somebody 'hey resurrection' without actually doing any research beforehand.

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February 10, 2013, 03:00:07 PM
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I met Stallman in the London conference and he was quite clueless about bitcoin as a whole.

I doubt he's such a good actor.
Yeah, he must be pretty damn clueless. Watching that Bitcoin 2012 London: Richard Stallman, he only made a few comments about Bitcoin on a 43 minute speech:
0:10 Bitcoin mentioned 13:00 Wikileaks btc donation. 33:50 Bitcoin licensing copyleft non-copyleft 42:35 Bitcoin mentioned. The talk had little or nothing to do with Bitcoin.
He talked about how Bitcoin is licensed, and said that some projects he doesn't have a problem if they aren't copyleft. Did we learn anything new now?

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February 10, 2013, 03:22:28 PM
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Could be you look at it from the wrong perspective.
Maybe you should better ask: Is Richard Stallman actually Satoshi?  Tongue

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