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January 22, 2014, 05:46:09 PM
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It's funny.  This performance is still far higher than that of banks, yet the bitching.

Nobody likes uncertainty. The OP was concerned the transaction wouldn't happen and his coins would disappear. Education, education, education.
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January 22, 2014, 06:14:30 PM
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The foundation is trying to get some documents out the door that handle this problem.  The bitcoin wiki is cool but being as comprehensive as it is, it doesn't draw attention to problems people are likely to have. 

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January 22, 2014, 08:19:13 PM
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No, the priority is very very low

This^

Your transaction's priority is

(5000000 * 123)/223 =2757847.53363

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Just wait for some time, it will get confirmed.

A few months ago I sent a 0-fee transaction with a priority of 100M, it took several hours to confirm. This one could take weeks.
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January 22, 2014, 11:13:16 PM
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It's funny.  This performance is still far higher than that of banks, yet the bitching.

Nobody likes uncertainty. The OP was concerned the transaction wouldn't happen and his coins would disappear. Education, education, education.

I would say it is lack of documentation which makes it really hard for ambitious users like me, who want to do all the fancy stuff people talk about at conferences, but who do not have connections. The wiki is not comprehensive at all. for example I did not see the formula for the priority. I would like to get educated on things. But with the documentation as poor as it is, I sometimes feel I'd need to sit on Mike Hearns lap to get the info I need.
Example: For ages everybody is talking about multi-sig, yet the only valuable document is this document of Gavin which is really from the stone ages.

Sry, dont  want to bitch around, but I am a bit disapointed about the accesibility of open-source. How many people are really running bitcoin? Maybe a hundred. I thought it was much more.
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January 23, 2014, 02:56:05 AM
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It's funny.  This performance is still far higher than that of banks, yet the bitching.

Nobody likes uncertainty. The OP was concerned the transaction wouldn't happen and his coins would disappear. Education, education, education.

I would say it is lack of documentation which makes it really hard for ambitious users like me, who want to do all the fancy stuff people talk about at conferences, but who do not have connections. The wiki is not comprehensive at all. for example I did not see the formula for the priority. I would like to get educated on things. But with the documentation as poor as it is, I sometimes feel I'd need to sit on Mike Hearns lap to get the info I need.
Example: For ages everybody is talking about multi-sig, yet the only valuable document is this document of Gavin which is really from the stone ages.

Sry, dont  want to bitch around, but I am a bit disapointed about the accesibility of open-source. How many people are really running bitcoin? Maybe a hundred. I thought it was much more.

In the last 24 hours three pools got 69% of total blocks. Are they leaving to the small pools blocks with zero fee transactions?
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January 23, 2014, 05:09:08 AM
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It's funny.  This performance is still far higher than that of banks, yet the bitching.

Nobody likes uncertainty. The OP was concerned the transaction wouldn't happen and his coins would disappear. Education, education, education.

I would say it is lack of documentation which makes it really hard for ambitious users like me, who want to do all the fancy stuff people talk about at conferences, but who do not have connections. The wiki is not comprehensive at all. for example I did not see the formula for the priority. I would like to get educated on things. But with the documentation as poor as it is, I sometimes feel I'd need to sit on Mike Hearns lap to get the info I need.
Example: For ages everybody is talking about multi-sig, yet the only valuable document is this document of Gavin which is really from the stone ages.

Sry, dont  want to bitch around, but I am a bit disapointed about the accesibility of open-source. How many people are really running bitcoin? Maybe a hundred. I thought it was much more.

The only way to learn is lurking here. I'm still learning myself. The problem with documentation is that only the source code truly defines the protocol do there isn't total agreement.

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January 23, 2014, 05:17:43 AM
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I agree the official wiki should be kept fully up to date with current bitcoin protocol. That's pretty basic communication.
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January 23, 2014, 05:23:56 AM
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I agree the official wiki should be kept fully up to date with current bitcoin protocol. That's pretty basic communication.

Well then, why haven't you kept it fully up to date?  It is a wiki after all.  It is up to people who care about it (such as yourself) to maintain it.  If you don't, then it will be out of date.
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January 23, 2014, 05:38:15 AM
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I agree the official wiki should be kept fully up to date with current bitcoin protocol. That's pretty basic communication.

Well then, why haven't you kept it fully up to date?  It is a wiki after all.  It is up to people who care about it (such as yourself) to maintain it.  If you don't, then it will be out of date.

Why don't you do it then? Smiley
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January 23, 2014, 05:41:24 AM
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I agree the official wiki should be kept fully up to date with current bitcoin protocol. That's pretty basic communication.

Well then, why haven't you kept it fully up to date?  It is a wiki after all.  It is up to people who care about it (such as yourself) to maintain it.  If you don't, then it will be out of date.

Why don't you do it then? Smiley

Exactly.

When it comes to open source, it does no good to complain and say that "something should be done."  If you want something done, then do it.
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January 23, 2014, 08:19:50 PM
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There also is no damn protocol.

Ask darkwallet what they think about the protocol.  It's not the same answer you get from just anyone you ask.

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