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January 22, 2014, 04:19:57 PM
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The way that I read an article a few months ago, it said that China was to completely ban Bitcoin on the 30th of January.  After I saw that people were not panicking or referencing it at all, I decided to look up the news again yesterday.  From what I now understand, the Chinese exchanges have been closed from deposits for a month and are coming back on the 30th? 

These articles are worded pretty weirdly in my opinion, or maybe I am just missing something really obvious -.- 

Could somebody please clarify the situation? Smiley
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January 22, 2014, 04:57:42 PM
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The way that I read an article a few months ago, it said that China was to completely ban Bitcoin on the 30th of January.  After I saw that people were not panicking or referencing it at all, I decided to look up the news again yesterday.  From what I now understand, the Chinese exchanges have been closed from deposits for a month and are coming back on the 30th?  

These articles are worded pretty weirdly in my opinion, or maybe I am just missing something really obvious -.-  

Could somebody please clarify the situation? Smiley

What I understand is, on 30th Jan, all chinese exchange site have to be closed down completely. I might be wrong, anybody have any idea?

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January 22, 2014, 05:07:02 PM
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The way that I read an article a few months ago, it said that China was to completely ban Bitcoin on the 30th of January.  After I saw that people were not panicking or referencing it at all, I decided to look up the news again yesterday.  From what I now understand, the Chinese exchanges have been closed from deposits for a month and are coming back on the 30th?  

These articles are worded pretty weirdly in my opinion, or maybe I am just missing something really obvious -.-  

Could somebody please clarify the situation? Smiley

What I understand is, on 30th Jan, all chinese exchange site have to be closed down completely. I might be wrong, anybody have any idea?

Yeah it is weird because they say *until January 30th which makes no sense at all to me  Huh
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January 22, 2014, 05:09:13 PM
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Wrong. They're not being closed. They're closing down channels to get your money out after that date. There are workarounds like vouchers. I'm not sure it'll last though.
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January 22, 2014, 05:23:35 PM
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Wrong. They're not being closed. They're closing down channels to get your money out after that date. There are workarounds like vouchers. I'm not sure it'll last though.

Ah so that would explain the lack of panic.  Hopefully they work out regulation.
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January 22, 2014, 05:28:41 PM
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China has been co-opted by the alliance between Russia and North Korea. Putin and Kim Jong Un are taking control of the exchanges.

It has all been confirmed by reliable sources in this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412280.220
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January 22, 2014, 05:32:02 PM
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I think there's cause to panic about how close to the wind China's biggest exchange is sailing. They've had some pretty unorthodox methods to deposit and some seem to think they're faking their volume.

Having said that it seems virtually impossible to get a straightforward view of what is actually happening there. In this case the information superhighway has failed miserably.
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January 22, 2014, 05:50:04 PM
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I think there's cause to panic about how close to the wind China's biggest exchange is sailing. They've had some pretty unorthodox methods to deposit and some seem to think they're faking their volume.

Having said that it seems virtually impossible to get a straightforward view of what is actually happening there. In this case the information superhighway has failed miserably.

So do Bter and Mtgox also have to abide by these rules since they are run from China?
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January 22, 2014, 06:40:21 PM
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I think there's cause to panic about how close to the wind China's biggest exchange is sailing. They've had some pretty unorthodox methods to deposit and some seem to think they're faking their volume.

Having said that it seems virtually impossible to get a straightforward view of what is actually happening there. In this case the information superhighway has failed miserably.

So do Bter and Mtgox also have to abide by these rules since they are run from China?

these are not run or based in China
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January 22, 2014, 06:44:49 PM
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Wrong. They're not being closed. They're closing down channels to get your money out after that date. There are workarounds like vouchers. I'm not sure it'll last though.

This ^^!
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January 22, 2014, 06:51:07 PM
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You can no longer transfer your money out to a central bank account.  You can still buy and sell "BTC China credits".

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January 22, 2014, 07:20:16 PM
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Well I guess that clears everything up for me then Smiley Thanks to everyone who responded
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January 22, 2014, 07:26:28 PM
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There was a Chinese dude from China in speculation forum warning everyone that the 31st Jan China thing is the real deal and the current deposit methods are not sustainable.

I also personally know someone in China who tells me the threat is the real deal. Even though im a super bull, personally I'm not buying any new btc till this whole thing is clear, price is way too Dependant on Chinese money ATM and there is evidence of fake Chinese volumes which means current price will collapse once China is out.

The markets will get more nervous in the next week or so

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January 22, 2014, 07:49:09 PM
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There was a Chinese dude from China in speculation forum warning everyone that the 31st Jan China thing is the real deal and the current deposit methods are not sustainable.

I also personally know someone in China who tells me the threat is the real deal. Even though im a super bull, personally I'm not buying any new btc till this whole thing is clear, price is way too Dependant on Chinese money ATM and there is evidence of fake Chinese volumes which means current price will collapse once China is out.

The markets will get more nervous in the next week or so
So that is why the price is so stable lately despite all the good news. People keep cash in their pockets waiting for the smoke to clear. IMO no matter what happens with China it won't affect the price much. They knew what's comming for more than a month.

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January 22, 2014, 08:09:22 PM
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Some are predicting the Chinese will start selling off before the deadline (right now they appear to be buying) because of the difficulty to cash out thereafter, most may just sell a portion of their holdings. The trend will definitely continue after the deadline and we also have the terms of the Fed, Silk Road, auction TBA.
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January 22, 2014, 08:43:54 PM
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All ways for getting money on and off exchanges will come to a halt on the 30th. I personally have gotten a little money out of a small percentage of BTC and remains on the exchange to buy back in a little lower. Day traders will probably trade and keep volume up until the very last couple of days. Then demand for BTC in China will probably wane significantly for a few months, and I'm hoping for $530 BTC.
Also the well to do Chinese are expected to hand out a lot of cash during Chinese New Year, (little red and gold envelopes), so I think overall, China will be getting very short BTC. So cobble together everything you can, and get it on your favourite exchange! "Beep Beep Beep" as my 2 year old would say for the trucks.
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January 22, 2014, 08:48:47 PM
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There was a Chinese dude from China in speculation forum warning everyone that the 31st Jan China thing is the real deal and the current deposit methods are not sustainable.

I also personally know someone in China who tells me the threat is the real deal. Even though im a super bull, personally I'm not buying any new btc till this whole thing is clear, price is way too Dependant on Chinese money ATM and there is evidence of fake Chinese volumes which means current price will collapse once China is out.

The markets will get more nervous in the next week or so
So that is why the price is so stable lately despite all the good news. People keep cash in their pockets waiting for the smoke to clear. IMO no matter what happens with China it won't affect the price much. They knew what's comming for more than a month.
Exactly, China already got priced in. Not much will happen (in an negative way), more likely price will raise after this unclear situation. Maybe a mini-drop and then... Smiley
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January 22, 2014, 09:02:41 PM
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Mini drop is all my money on the exchange is holding out for. But I don't think we can rule out a drop towards $540 with the Fed Silkroad announcement.
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January 22, 2014, 09:28:42 PM
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All just bumps in the road, my friends.  I smell Freedom in the air.  Financial Freedom for everyone in the world.  This is the promise of Bitcoin.  This is just the beginning.

Sincerely I am, Johnny BitcoinSeed .com
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January 23, 2014, 03:48:07 AM
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I think there's cause to panic about how close to the wind China's biggest exchange is sailing. They've had some pretty unorthodox methods to deposit and some seem to think they're faking their volume.

Having said that it seems virtually impossible to get a straightforward view of what is actually happening there. In this case the information superhighway has failed miserably.

So do Bter and Mtgox also have to abide by these rules since they are run from China?

Where do you get your info? Gox is based in Tokyo. No idea who Bter are
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