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May 27, 2018, 01:12:41 PM
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I don't know, and it's impossible for any of us to say if the price is being manipulated or not. We do know that the U.S. Justice Department had open a criminal probe in order to investigate if the price is being manipulated or not. I have no idea how they will carry that investigation, but I guess we just need to keep an eye on how everything resolves.

I guess that there are some pump and dump schemes, but those should not be enough for BTC, because although bitcoin market is not huge, I would say it's big enough to be protected from that. Unless exchanges itself were doing it, since they do hold huge amounts of coins. Regulation is closing on them though, so if these things happen, and with the U.S. Justice Department getting involved as well, I would say that things should start getting better now.
It will be hard for them to manipulate price especially those coins that are listed in multiple exchanges, I don't think exchanges were capable of doing it since it will make their company less trusted. It will only be applicable if they are on top holders of that coin that can control it, but it will be always applicable for there are too many coins to prioritize with.

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May 27, 2018, 01:31:45 PM
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You know that an exchanges is a marketplace to bridge between buyer and seller
I don't think it exchange are manipulating price, because you can see the price on other exchanges.
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May 27, 2018, 01:35:51 PM
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I don't know, and it's impossible for any of us to say if the price is being manipulated or not. We do know that the U.S. Justice Department had open a criminal probe in order to investigate if the price is being manipulated or not. I have no idea how they will carry that investigation, but I guess we just need to keep an eye on how everything resolves.

I guess that there are some pump and dump schemes, but those should not be enough for BTC, because although bitcoin market is not huge, I would say it's big enough to be protected from that. Unless exchanges itself were doing it, since they do hold huge amounts of coins. Regulation is closing on them though, so if these things happen, and with the U.S. Justice Department getting involved as well, I would say that things should start getting better now.
It will be hard for them to manipulate price especially those coins that are listed in multiple exchanges, I don't think exchanges were capable of doing it since it will make their company less trusted. It will only be applicable if they are on top holders of that coin that can control it, but it will be always applicable for there are too many coins to prioritize with.
As a matter of fact crypto-exchanges are best positioned to profit from front running: they can insert their own buy order before a trader’s large buy order and sell the purchased asset right after the trader’s order is executed.
The trader ends up paying more for his purchase and the exchange has pocketed a substantial profit piggybacking on the trader. Most of the times the orders which you put by mistake like 20-30% above/below the market prices in buy/sell respectively are completed by bot orders only.
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May 27, 2018, 01:43:59 PM
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I don't know, and it's impossible for any of us to say if the price is being manipulated or not. We do know that the U.S. Justice Department had open a criminal probe in order to investigate if the price is being manipulated or not. I have no idea how they will carry that investigation, but I guess we just need to keep an eye on how everything resolves.

I guess that there are some pump and dump schemes, but those should not be enough for BTC, because although bitcoin market is not huge, I would say it's big enough to be protected from that. Unless exchanges itself were doing it, since they do hold huge amounts of coins. Regulation is closing on them though, so if these things happen, and with the U.S. Justice Department getting involved as well, I would say that things should start getting better now.
It will be hard for them to manipulate price especially those coins that are listed in multiple exchanges, I don't think exchanges were capable of doing it since it will make their company less trusted. It will only be applicable if they are on top holders of that coin that can control it, but it will be always applicable for there are too many coins to prioritize with.
As a matter of fact crypto-exchanges are best positioned to profit from front running: they can insert their own buy order before a trader’s large buy order and sell the purchased asset right after the trader’s order is executed.
The trader ends up paying more for his purchase and the exchange has pocketed a substantial profit piggybacking on the trader. Most of the times the orders which you put by mistake like 20-30% above/below the market prices in buy/sell respectively are completed by bot orders only.
Indeed, the bot inside those exchange will make traders make a huge mistakes, there's a type of trading where traders are finding ways for a lesser risk, arbitrage trading can really attract people to take advantage without knowing or noticing that it can also be some bot that tricking them to place orders and become a victim when value start to down fall again, just get that logic coming from this statement and it's a proof that exchange can deal with this type of actions, a simple moneymaking tools for their business.
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July 01, 2018, 09:07:12 PM
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Never noticed the manipulation of the token exchange rate on the top-level crypto-exchange exchanges. If you are worried about this, you can use the decentralized IDEX exchange, I think it's impossible to do it there.
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July 01, 2018, 09:27:47 PM
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Maybe I'm too naive, but... Don't you think that if they could actually manipulate the price, they would do this with their own coins first? I mean coins of the exchanges, such as BNC (Binance coin) or AURA (IDEX token). And even though IDEX is a decentralized exchange, they still can manage all of the traidings on the platform, no one has doubts about this, I hope.

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July 01, 2018, 09:30:28 PM
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Some of it definitely looks fake like the new claims about 1.6 bil daily volume, there are a lot of reports, not sure how reliable https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/83mi8r/okex_fakes_90_of_its_volume_huobi_80_cmc_has_also/
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July 01, 2018, 10:05:37 PM
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I read a couple news about price manipulations, it's a real thing and new to me, so sorry if it sounds newbie.

I am still trying to understand how this manipulation works. This could be the main reason for what is happening to prices now ?
Is just not possible buyers and sellers are the ones manipulating it and then maybe if some project decide some buyback strategies or anyway to up their prices

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July 02, 2018, 11:29:38 AM
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Probably whales are manipulating market prices and this is the time when they buy. and will hold the money injection for the coin to rise again, I think we should hold and wait for a reasonable price to sell.

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July 17, 2018, 09:52:39 AM
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In 2011 when BTC tradeable, exchange has posibility to manipulate the price of BTC because in that times there are only 1 or 2 exchange but now in the market already more than 200 exchange so i think not possible for exchange to manipulate the price of BTC. And people who possible to do that is whales and early adopter who bought BTC in cheap price in 2010 to 2011.
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July 17, 2018, 10:17:37 AM
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I read a couple news about price manipulations, it's a real thing and new to me, so sorry if it sounds newbie.

I am still trying to understand how this manipulation works. This could be the main reason for what is happening to prices now ?
Exactly, I think, you can see that there are very few countries in the world that recognize and circulate legally, which is the same as the price of bitcoin is not controlled by the government. As a result, exchanges and sharks will probably be able to control the price of bitcoins and other coin. You will find it hard to make a profit in the market at the moment.
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July 17, 2018, 10:31:23 AM
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If we will talk about general prices of altcoins its not they can make profits with every trades buy and sells on every traders account. In Bitcoin there is a possibility but not all exchange can do it, there is only a certain big exchanges like Cboe and nasdaq i don't know but they can manipulate it.

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July 17, 2018, 11:26:45 AM
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I think this will not happen, even though big exchanges are whales in the crypto market. But they will not want Bitcoin and altcoin prices to drop as this could cause them to lose a lot of money

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July 17, 2018, 11:28:38 AM
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The exchange always adjusts prices so that the most reasonable. So the exchange will never manipulate the market price. If big exchanges like Binance or Bittrex want to manipulate market prices, they can manipulate easily

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July 17, 2018, 11:31:01 AM
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I think not. Exchanges are holding a lot of Bitcoin and altcoin in the world. If they want to manipulate the price of the market then probably the market has increased a lot and not decreased in the past few months.

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July 17, 2018, 11:55:24 AM
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to some extent, they are involved in it by pumping and dumping strategies but the main reason is regulations news and miners trying to wipe away small miners. so let's see whats next in crypto
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July 17, 2018, 01:13:46 PM
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I am not sure about this but I think this is possible because in the market, there are too many people and  they can easily to increase and decrease the price and they can move the price to wherever they want butwhich is a trade in the same exchange and the whales cannot handle so many things.investigate if the price is being manipulated or not.
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July 17, 2018, 02:21:08 PM
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I believe exchanges are not fair in their dealings, their main aim is to make profit in somehow or other. They don't care about investors, in some exchanges they are even manipulating things.
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July 18, 2018, 11:27:33 AM
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From what I now tell the point I am right now, every guy who would have a significant amount of particular currency can make manipulations of the price on the exchange. One friend of mine has a big amount of coins and he performed that successfully.
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July 18, 2018, 12:06:19 PM
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I think exchanges has no capital and no capability to manipulate the market. And only billionaires can control the market.

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