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Short Summary for Bio’s:

Cura [CUR] is a cryptocurrency introduced with the goal of reducing today’s runaway healthcare cost inflation. It promotes globally decentralized health care by three means: 1) Decreasing insurance corporations’ financial control and  2) Making medicine accessible to everyone 3) Providing a method to control health inflation

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Introduction

Greetings. This is a pre-announcement for Cura, an upcoming cryptocurrency that will tackle the social subjects of telemedicine, insurance, concierge medicine, and automation. It will altogether pave the way for a better decentralized but personalized healthcare system.

Cura is not about innovation of cryptocurrency itself, therefore we have selected Scrypt as the mining algorithm to keep the bar to entry low, and benefit from the large pre-existing community.

Cura is about innovating modern healthcare through cryptocurrency by:
giving the freedom of choice back to the providers and patients,
reducing the influence of insurance companies and breaking their tight grip on providers and patients,
promoting telemedicine around the world in poor, rural, and emerging economy areas,
giving freedom to concierge treatments,
giving incentive to miners that are backing the Cura Network

Cura is where modern medicine and cryptocurrency come together.

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Meaning

Cura, pronounces CURE-RA, is the name of a Roman goddess whose name means "Care" or "Concern" in Latin. The Cura logo depicts Hippocrates, the father of Western medicine. The phrase "Primum non nocere" is the Hippocratic Oath and means “Do no harm”, the most basic tenet of healthcare.

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Motivation

Telemedicine, Insurance, Concierge Medicine for the Poor
                                                        
According to the American Medical Association, telemedicine is the use of electronic information to improve patients’ status [1]. In recent years, with the advancement of computers and electronics, telemedicine has been utilized around the world in rural areas and in developing countries. Whether it’s reading an EKG, evaluating radiologic images, refilling prescriptions, providing surgical consultations or robotic maneuvering, telemedicine is revolutionizing modern healthcare. While telemedicine continues to improve and proliferate, there are still underlying barriers, as telemedicine is mostly conducted between affiliated hospitals, and even less so across global healthcare networks and private providers, mostly due to fiat currency differences and restrictions.

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In the United States alone, there are about 42 million people uninsured [2]. Even for those who have health insurance, there is a surging inflation, well beyond the general inflation, of insurance premium vs. workers’ earnings [3]. Compounding that fact is that hospitals are charging ever-increasing fees on in-patient procedures [4], leading to unsustainable medical costs in the near future. Even in those countries with socialized medicine, while everyone is eligible to be treated, the system can be inefficient and slow due to the large numbers of patients to be treated through a centralized, bureaucratically controlled system.
  
With the increasing inflation and government deficit, graduating healthcare providers are facing insurmountable debts today. Compounding that is the fact that insurance companies are denying more medical claims, forcing some providers to abandon primary care to enter specialized careers or concierge for the riches. In the U.S, Obamacare’s premium plans only create more problems, and gets further from having an adequate solution.

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Freedom To Choose

It is natural that the people should have the right to have their health to be taken care of, not being decided, approved, or restricted by an insurance company just because of their current or previous medical conditions. Everyone should have open access to a health care provider, no matter where they are.  

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Why Use Cura

 Miners <-->Investors <-->Patients <--> Providers, Hospitals and Clinics

Miners: Coin rewards for backing the Cura Network

Investors: For those who are not interested in mining but want to invest and trade Cura

Patients: Will be able to pay for telemedicine via Cura obtained from markets or by contributing to the network and mining them.

Providers: Will be able to receive Cura around the world and carry out telemedicine work. Also will be able to exchange with fiat currency if needed.

3rd parties: Hospitals and clinics. For major in-patient cases, will be able to change their stance due to Cura adoption of patients and providers and decrease their reliance on insurance companies. Therefore, out-of-control health inflation will likely decrease.

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Advantages over other coins:
Scrypt instead of SHA256

- Fast transactions and confirmations
- Affordability
- Some resistant to ASIC hardwares
- Mining friendly to newcomers

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Technical Details

POW: Scrypt
Upper cap: 50 billions
Random block reward
Starting difficulty: 0
Retarget: 180

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Release Date: Soon
Funding: Donation

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Cura Resources:
Github: https://github.com/curaCoin
Website: TBA
Gmail/Google/Youtube: OfficialCuracoin@gmail.com
Facebook: www.facebook.com/Curacoin
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Curacoin
Subreddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Curacoin/
Charity: TBA
SDN topics: Pre-Allo http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/pre-ann-cura-proposal-to-de-centralize-medicine-healthcare.1052331/
Reddit topics: http://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/1wexrf/cura_proposal_to_decentralizing_medicine/

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Reasons for Supporting Cura

Bringing cryptocurrency to a globalized healthcare
Bridging telemedicine
Supporting concierge medicine for the poor
Funding for future scientific projects
Reducing runaway healthcare inflation
Anonymous Peer to Peer payment
Catering to providers/patients adoption, first as oppose to trying to create speculations and then merchant adoption as with other cryptos.

Future Plan

Lightweight Wallet Client
QR paper wallet / Android Mobile Wallet App  
QR-backend with QR Scanner for Providers’ Office
Establishing nonprofit funding for researching


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Who We Are

Collective dissident of insurance power
Supporters of telemedicine and concierge medicine

Cura References:

[1]Wikipedia: Telemedicine
[2]http://kff.org/uninsured/fact-sheet/key-facts-about-the-uninsured-population/
[3]http://kaiserfamilyfoundation.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/ehbs-cumulative-increases-in-health-insurance-premiums-workers-contributions-to-premiums-inflation-and-workers-earnings-1999-2012-healthcosts.png
http://www.ibtimes.com/mit-technology-has-not-helped-lower-us-health-care-costs-contrary-1449656
[4]http://www.ifhp.com/s/2012-iFHP-Price-Report-FINAL-April-3.pdf

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We would love to hear your input. There will be a post on studentdoctornetwork (SDN) for medical students, residents, and attending physicians as well to foster discussions. To lessen the grips of insurance and promotion of concierge medicine, Cura need to be adopted.  More details regarding Cura to follow when the launching is near.  

Also the Cura team is looking for motivated individuals to join Cura or spreading the adoption of Cura. Our team are anonymous individuals are working together on IRC channel freenode. Please send your inquiry to sicktoshi@gmail.com

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 Resistant to ASICs


Eh.... no.


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sound good  Smiley

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watching this 1
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Sorry - not watching this   :-(
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Not understanding the correlation between this coin and healthcare costs, or the benefit over fiat in the telemedicine market. Could you elaborate on the actual solution this coin provides or will provide?
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Not understanding the correlation between this coin and healthcare costs, or the benefit over fiat in the telemedicine market. Could you elaborate on the actual solution this coin provides or will provide?


it means that the dev is sick and needs to use cryptocurrency to buy meds.
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Bad name!

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Resistant to ASICs


Eh.... no.



Posting 5 seconds after this Pre-Announcement. Should try a little bit of thorough reading next time.
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I'll keep my eye on this one,

BTW i'm also a member of SDN and a PGY1

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Not understanding the correlation between this coin and healthcare costs, or the benefit over fiat in the telemedicine market. Could you elaborate on the actual solution this coin provides or will provide?


it means that the dev is sick and needs to use cryptocurrency to buy meds.

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keep in mind.
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Resistant to ASICs


Eh.... no.



+1.

Scrypt is not ASIC resistant anymore.
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Resistant to ASICs


Eh.... no.



+1.

Scrypt is not ASIC resistant anymore.

The terminology still stands. Notice it is not Asic-Proof but Asic-Resistant, offering higher resistant compared to traditional SHA-256. What you meant to say was Scrypt is not Asic-Proof anymore, but it is being resist-ive to some degrees against Asic.

If we are here to argue about the nitpicking details of what is Asic-Resistant, which is not the main topic or reason for this thread, then I suggest we should take a closer look of social issue at hand regarding the declining healthcare system in America and practical application of tele-medicine around the world, and how cryptocurrency can help overcoming barriers. 
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Healthcare Is One Of The Highest Expenses An Individual Will Pay For During Their Life.

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reducing the influence of insurance companies and breaking their tight grip on providers and patients,
just FYI, most developed countries except for the US have universal healthcare i.e. "medicaid for all".  

many of the problems you list are not shared by the rest of the world outside the US.  

Many of us outside of USA consider one's health to be an intrinsic human right rather than something that should be paid for individually, out of pocket.  

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Cura > Obamacare

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Cura > Obamacare
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Cura > Obamacare
lol..

Watching this coin. good luck

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Follow coin  Smiley
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 Grin I like it! I really like the name...

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We will start working on the project next week. I will do more thorough research/changing proposal a bit before releasing to studentdoctor network site. Also, the soft upper cap is 500 billions but I am thinking of following Dogecoin's route of around 3% inflation once the maximum is reached. My reasoning is to make it affordable. Let me know what you guys think.
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If I mine this does it mean I can opt-out of Obamacare without the penalty?  Roll Eyes

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If I mine this does it mean I can opt-out of Obamacare without the penalty?  Roll Eyes

Definitely No penalty  Wink , you don't have to pay for extra premiums either.

Another point I want to bring up for miners/investors (since this is Bitcointalk after all) is, although Cura is catering a niche market (medicine/pharma), if there is adoption, the market is hughe, only even if it in U.S alone.  
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I'll keep my eye on this one,

BTW i'm also a member of SDN and a PGY1

Glad to hear someone has similar forward-thinking regarding cryptocurrency  Wink

I just posted a thread on SDN pre-allo: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/pre-ann-cura-proposal-to-de-centralize-medicine-healthcare.1052331/

And they think ALL bitcointalk people are matured people  Cheesy


Also, I have started working on source-code.
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When does it launch?
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When does it launch?

At the latest would be in two weeks. We have to do testings for bugs.
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Looking forward into seeing this coin succeeding Smiley

It is being developed from mature and experienced people, plus that its topic is great.

Health is #1 for people and this could do a real good in our shitty world Smiley
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Finally signed up here to comment on this coin launch due to a ton of opportunities not yet discussed that this coin could benefit us all by...  A higher premine may be warranted if specifically used for the purposes stated below..


Setup a foundation feature that pools a portion of block rewards to actual medical research (voted on by members) or help cover costs for medical course expenses paid by aspiring students (school or elected person). If a school/doctor were to be rewarded with funds from Cura and becomes a physician, they could be more willing to grow with the causes Cura promotes and may even provide the services discussed on the first post at reduced costs.

A portion of block rewards could be used to fund development of ipad or android based medical equipment (meaning they are the devices that communicate vitals to the remote doctor/nurse) that will allow doctors/nurses to provide remote checkups for impoverished villages, disease outbreaks, or places that are affected by natural disasters.

Portions of block rewards could be provided to farmers in select communities where produce is more scarce and obesity/diabetes rates are higher. These farmers can then provide discounts to local stores to keep product expenses lower. A Cura sticker on the produce can mark items the coin directly helped.

Hope some of these ideas can be discussed further as it creates a network effect beyond direct mining.  




 
  
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Finally signed up here to comment on this coin launch due to a ton of opportunities not yet discussed that this coin could benefit us all by...  A higher premine may be warranted if specifically used for the purposes stated below..


Setup a foundation feature that pools a portion of block rewards to actual medical research (voted on by members) or help cover costs for medical course expenses paid by aspiring students (school or elected person). If a school/doctor were to be rewarded with funds from Cura and becomes a physician, they could be more willing to grow with the causes Cura promotes and may even provide the services discussed on the first post at reduced costs.

A portion of block rewards could be used to fund development of ipad or android based medical equipment (meaning they are the devices that communicate vitals to the remote doctor/nurse) that will allow doctors/nurses to provide remote checkups for impoverished villages, disease outbreaks, or places that are affected by natural disasters.

Portions of block rewards could be provided to farmers in select communities where produce is more scarce and obesity/diabetes rates are higher. These farmers can then provide discounts to local stores to keep product expenses lower. A Cura sticker on the produce can mark items the coin directly helped.

Hope some of these ideas can be discussed further as it creates a network effect beyond direct mining.  
  

Yeah good ideas, far from being implemented yet tho Smiley I think with that niche this coin will gain a nice value and we people can use that to do good things for the world too !
All that is needed is community to accept and promote it and adoption will come Smiley
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People from Poland will have fun with this name Smiley
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People from Poland will have fun with this name Smiley

I like zhe concept.. i´m in
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Finally signed up here to comment on this coin launch due to a ton of opportunities not yet discussed that this coin could benefit us all by...  A higher premine may be warranted if specifically used for the purposes stated below..


Setup a foundation feature that pools a portion of block rewards to actual medical research (voted on by members) or help cover costs for medical course expenses paid by aspiring students (school or elected person). If a school/doctor were to be rewarded with funds from Cura and becomes a physician, they could be more willing to grow with the causes Cura promotes and may even provide the services discussed on the first post at reduced costs.

A portion of block rewards could be used to fund development of ipad or android based medical equipment (meaning they are the devices that communicate vitals to the remote doctor/nurse) that will allow doctors/nurses to provide remote checkups for impoverished villages, disease outbreaks, or places that are affected by natural disasters.

Portions of block rewards could be provided to farmers in select communities where produce is more scarce and obesity/diabetes rates are higher. These farmers can then provide discounts to local stores to keep product expenses lower. A Cura sticker on the produce can mark items the coin directly helped.

Hope some of these ideas can be discussed further as it creates a network effect beyond direct mining.  



good ideas.. we need to think on everything possible for the betterment of people in need and better future



 
  

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CURA pronounces CURE-RA

CURA pronounces CURA, in spanish.

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Watching this coin, has an interesting concept and hopefully enough for it to take off.

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Just a quick update the original thread posting on pre-allopathic got banned  due to "advertising". Here is a Google Cache of the few thread (it was 2 pages long http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Ob891iMfM1AJ:forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/pre-ann-cura-proposal-to-de-centralize-medicine-healthcare.1052331/+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)

At any rate, there will be another thread on Pre-Allopathic thread. Also there will be another post on SDN's Allopathic thread and dental, because I want to spread the De-centralized Medicine belief.

Again for clarification purpose, the software is open-source with various people contribute to the project and we at Cura does not ask for money, and neither is it costs anything to use the software.

I will also promoting discussion on www.reddit.com/r/medicine and IRC channels as well. Also, my consultant is exploring the possibility of implement Scrypt 2048,1,1 for further ASIC resistant (if he could not come up in time, there will be eventually forking down the road in case Asic explodes)

Keep on the discussion because I feel de-centralize medicine is an important issue for most people.
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January 29, 2014, 12:23:06 AM
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I was reading the OP and smiling waiting to reach the spec of the coin and at the end as I expected it's another scrypt clone coin lol!, (it's not a bad thing, just find it funny) I was expecting a POS + POW model at least when I was reading the patient <-> providers thingy, but nah no innovation lol!

But for the narrative I'll be following this coin
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I was reading the OP and smiling waiting to reach the spec of the coin and at the end as I expected it's another scrypt clone coin lol!, (it's not a bad thing, just find it funny) I was expecting a POS + POW model at least when I was reading the patient <-> providers thingy, but nah no innovation lol!

But for the narrative I'll be following this coin

We are exploring Scrypt 2048,1,1 for memory consumption for further ASIC resistant in future forking if it gets bad. Try to see if other coins are trying to do that. Also, I am quoting from the reddit thread regarding why Cura is unique " Cura is upfront about catering to providers/patients adoption first as oppose to trying to create speculations and then merchant adoption as with other cryptos."

Also, I created a thread on /r/medicine subreddit . http://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/1wexrf/cura_proposal_to_decentralizing_medicine/ check out for my answers to concern/issues
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I was reading the OP and smiling waiting to reach the spec of the coin and at the end as I expected it's another scrypt clone coin lol!, (it's not a bad thing, just find it funny) I was expecting a POS + POW model at least when I was reading the patient <-> providers thingy, but nah no innovation lol!

But for the narrative I'll be following this coin

We are exploring Scrypt 2048,1,1 for memory consumption for further ASIC resistant in future forking if it gets bad. Try to see if other coins are trying to do that. Also, I am quoting from the reddit thread regarding why Cura is unique " Cura is upfront about catering to providers/patients adoption first as oppose to trying to create speculations and then merchant adoption as with other cryptos."

Also, I created a thread on /r/medicine subreddit . http://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/1wexrf/cura_proposal_to_decentralizing_medicine/ check out for my answers to concern/issues

It's still scrypt based, if it was scrypt-jane it would have been more resistant,The whole ASIC resistance argument doesn't really matter, unless scrypt market doesn't reach a certain market cap, it will be safe on it own as no company on the industrial level would consider investing R&D, Industrialisation, fab.... on scrypt coins.

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" Cura is upfront about catering to providers/patients adoption first as oppose to trying to create speculations and then merchant adoption as with other cryptos."

lol? what is this even supposed to mean? so you'll have an exchange since day one? please explaine


And just to make things, clear, I'm not against your coin just expressed my amazement to the whole story line for yet another scrypt coin (you have every right to creat one, and you won't be the first or the last) and Like I said I'll be following this.
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I was reading the OP and smiling waiting to reach the spec of the coin and at the end as I expected it's another scrypt clone coin lol!, (it's not a bad thing, just find it funny) I was expecting a POS + POW model at least when I was reading the patient <-> providers thingy, but nah no innovation lol!

But for the narrative I'll be following this coin

We are exploring Scrypt 2048,1,1 for memory consumption for further ASIC resistant in future forking if it gets bad. Try to see if other coins are trying to do that. Also, I am quoting from the reddit thread regarding why Cura is unique " Cura is upfront about catering to providers/patients adoption first as oppose to trying to create speculations and then merchant adoption as with other cryptos."

Also, I created a thread on /r/medicine subreddit . http://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/1wexrf/cura_proposal_to_decentralizing_medicine/ check out for my answers to concern/issues

It's still scrypt based, if it was scrypt-jane it would have been more resistant,The whole ASIC resistance argument doesn't really matter, unless scrypt market doesn't reach a certain market cap, it will be safe on it own as no company on the industrial level would consider investing R&D, Industrialisation, fab.... on scrypt coins.

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" Cura is upfront about catering to providers/patients adoption first as oppose to trying to create speculations and then merchant adoption as with other cryptos."

lol? what is this even supposed to mean? so you'll have an exchange since day one? please explaine


And just to make things, clear, I'm not against your coin just expressed my amazement to the whole story line for yet another scrypt coin (you have every right to creat one, and you won't be the first or the last) and Like I said I'll be following this.

I am assume you can write another form of algo or make your own coin based on your parrot talk? Feel free. But keep in mind when you are putting down Scrypt, you are putting down about 120+ developers that are contributing to the Scrypt community. Nice going.

There are stability issues that we are concerning with other experimental types. Forking any script is easy, maintaining it and troubleshooting it is hard.

You don't have to follow Cura based on your tone, nor your understanding of previous explanation, nor taking time reading it. We at Cura will not miss you.
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January 29, 2014, 01:31:28 AM
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Finally signed up here to comment on this coin launch due to a ton of opportunities not yet discussed that this coin could benefit us all by...  A higher premine may be warranted if specifically used for the purposes stated below..


Setup a foundation feature that pools a portion of block rewards to actual medical research (voted on by members) or help cover costs for medical course expenses paid by aspiring students (school or elected person). If a school/doctor were to be rewarded with funds from Cura and becomes a physician, they could be more willing to grow with the causes Cura promotes and may even provide the services discussed on the first post at reduced costs.

A portion of block rewards could be used to fund development of ipad or android based medical equipment (meaning they are the devices that communicate vitals to the remote doctor/nurse) that will allow doctors/nurses to provide remote checkups for impoverished villages, disease outbreaks, or places that are affected by natural disasters.

Portions of block rewards could be provided to farmers in select communities where produce is more scarce and obesity/diabetes rates are higher. These farmers can then provide discounts to local stores to keep product expenses lower. A Cura sticker on the produce can mark items the coin directly helped.

Hope some of these ideas can be discussed further as it creates a network effect beyond direct mining.  




 
  

Can't agree more. Thank you for this wonderful suggestion BayCoins. We will definitely bring up your posting after Cura is launched.
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But keep in mind when you are putting down Scrypt, you are putting down about 120+ developers that are contributing to the Scrypt community. Nice going.

What are you talking about again? putting down Scrypt? stick to the point and don't derail please, I asked you a question and you failled to answer me, you are just writting some random girbish and trying to sell it at something different. Your coin is just another scrypt coin clone nothing new, nothing innovative. Again if I missed something, please explane to me and others how your coin is different from the lots as you are claiming it is don't bullshit me with cura this patient that, medicament this, what are the technical stuff you are bringing to the table.

Again for the Third time, I have nothing against your coin or scrypt coins in general, just that don't try to force your girbish text on me saying it's innovative and different and what's not, while it is just another scrypt coin (if is it not and I missed something feel free to point it for the 4th I invite you to do.)

There are stability issues that we are concerning with other experimental types. Forking any script is easy, maintaining it and troubleshooting it is hard.

You don't have to follow Cura based on your tone, nor your understanding of previous explanation, nor taking time reading it. We at Cura will not miss you.

What previous explanation? I asked to explain in my previous comment and you posted this reply with not a single explanation, so for the fifth feel free to explain.
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But keep in mind when you are putting down Scrypt, you are putting down about 120+ developers that are contributing to the Scrypt community. Nice going.

What are you talking about again? putting down Scrypt? stick to the point and don't derail please, I asked you a question and you failled to answer me, you are just writting some random girbish and trying to sell it at something different. Your coin is just another scrypt coin clone nothing new, nothing innovative. Again if I missed something, please explane to me and others how your coin is different from the lots as you are claiming it is don't bullshit me with cura this patient that, medicament this, what are the technical stuff you are bringing to the table.

Again for the Third time, I have nothing against your coin or scrypt coins in general, just that don't try to force your girbish text on me saying it's innovative and different and what's not, while it is just another scrypt coin (if is it not and I missed something feel free to point it for the 4th I invite you to do.)

There are stability issues that we are concerning with other experimental types. Forking any script is easy, maintaining it and troubleshooting it is hard.

You don't have to follow Cura based on your tone, nor your understanding of previous explanation, nor taking time reading it. We at Cura will not miss you.

What previous explanation? I asked to explain in my previous comment and you posted this reply with not a single explanation, so for the fifth feel free to explain.



Again, comprehension issue is from your end. Let me cut and paste for you on the bitcointalk release page on first page.

Keep in mind your job is a miner here on bitcointalk, nothing more.


=============
Reasons for Supporting Cura

Bringing cryptocurrency to a globalized healthcare
Bridging telemedicine
Supporting concierge medicine for the poor
Funding for future scientific projects
Reducing runaway healthcare inflation
Anonymous Peer to Peer payment
Catering to providers/patients adoption, first as oppose to trying to create speculations and then merchant adoption as with other cryptos.
================

It is a fork of Litecoin. It is a Scrypt clonecloin similar to Dogecoin and 140 + coins over here. Mechanically algo-wise we are considering Scrypt
2048,1,1 down the road, which is new.


===========

Cura is different not in crypto algo but in the way it is catering to provider/patients and use as a tool for putting de-centralizing medicine into practice.  
===============

If you are not interest in Cura and its objectives, please refrain from asking further question that I honestly deemed to be moronic/idiotic and save it for those whom are interested. Cura is not just revolve around financial but also healthcare issues. The issues I brought up in the release page are mostly healthcare and social issues. There is a reason for long release bitcointalk page because it is not an easy topic to swallow.
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But keep in mind when you are putting down Scrypt, you are putting down about 120+ developers that are contributing to the Scrypt community. Nice going.

What are you talking about again? putting down Scrypt? stick to the point and don't derail please, I asked you a question and you failled to answer me, you are just writting some random girbish and trying to sell it at something different. Your coin is just another scrypt coin clone nothing new, nothing innovative. Again if I missed something, please explane to me and others how your coin is different from the lots as you are claiming it is don't bullshit me with cura this patient that, medicament this, what are the technical stuff you are bringing to the table.

Again for the Third time, I have nothing against your coin or scrypt coins in general, just that don't try to force your girbish text on me saying it's innovative and different and what's not, while it is just another scrypt coin (if is it not and I missed something feel free to point it for the 4th I invite you to do.)

There are stability issues that we are concerning with other experimental types. Forking any script is easy, maintaining it and troubleshooting it is hard.

You don't have to follow Cura based on your tone, nor your understanding of previous explanation, nor taking time reading it. We at Cura will not miss you.

What previous explanation? I asked to explain in my previous comment and you posted this reply with not a single explanation, so for the fifth feel free to explain.



Again, comprehension issue is from your end. Let me cut and paste for you on the bitcointalk release page on first page.

Keep in mind your job is a miner here on bitcointalk, nothing more.


=============
Reasons for Supporting Cura

Bringing cryptocurrency to a globalized healthcare
Bridging telemedicine
Supporting concierge medicine for the poor
Funding for future scientific projects
Reducing runaway healthcare inflation
Anonymous Peer to Peer payment
Catering to providers/patients adoption, first as oppose to trying to create speculations and then merchant adoption as with other cryptos.
================

It is a fork of Litecoin. It is a Scrypt clonecloin similar to Dogecoin and 140 + coins over here. Mechanically algo-wise we are considering Scrypt
2048,1,1 down the road, which is new.


===========

Cura is different not in crypto algo but in the way it is catering to provider/patients and use as a tool for putting de-centralizing medicine into practice.  
===============

If you are not interest in Cura and its objectives, please refrain from asking further question that I honestly deemed to be moronic/idiotic and save it for those whom are interested. Cura is not just revolve around financial but also healthcare issues. The issues I brought up in the release page are mostly healthcare and social issues. There is a reason for long release bitcointalk page because it is not an easy topic to swallow.

So it's a Scrypt Algo based coin as I mentioned, so to this point I didn't miss anything

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Cura is different not in crypto algo but in the way it is catering to provider/patients and use as a tool for putting de-centralizing medicine into practice. 

What does this mean? why aren't you able to explain? lets put it In simple words, I mine Curas or/and acquire them, so what what Am I supposed to do with them? exchange them for medicine? is that what are you saying?, do you have or are there any medicine business directories on the works that will use cura? or is it just an ethopic dream or just a plot to get people interessted?
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So it's a Scrypt Algo based coin as I mentioned, so to this point I didn't miss anything

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Cura is different not in crypto algo but in the way it is catering to provider/patients and use as a tool for putting de-centralizing medicine into practice.  

What does this mean? why aren't you able to explain? lets put it In simple words, I mine Curas or/and acquire them, so what what Am I supposed to do with them? exchange them for medicine? is that what are you saying?, do you have or are there any medicine business directories on the works that will use cura? or is it just an ethopic dream or just a plot to get people interessted?




Hey Kuroman troll, if you have problem with Cura, feel free to confront me on IRC @ curacoin on freenode since the release page is too much for that thick skull of yours. I am eagerly awaiting you.

To others, I have updated the technical plans and future plans as well. Regarding providers' office, I created a prototypes QR scanner of my own that will incorporated into Cura service, and it will use Android Phone (Raspberry Pi in the future) with front-end running on light-weight miniPC/android that will run with customed QR-backend to process Cura's wallet transaction and will divulging more details after launching.

The launching will be a short description since this pre-announcement is served as a proposal. The official link to the proposal shall be/updated at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OTUoLC5Veb5HVJeZ6CdsV0KpiwXH5orxQiU9tDFX5ic/edit for posterity.

If anyone has good input and want to join the team, contact us on IRC @ curacoin on freenode.
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Final fantasy
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Final fantasy

We rather try doing something than not doing anything  Wink. I myself want to instill the de-centralize medicine movement.


I have update the Proposal "For Providers" and "For Patients" as well at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OTUoLC5Veb5HVJeZ6CdsV0KpiwXH5orxQiU9tDFX5ic/edit.

Also have pictures of my QR scanner prototype. Will post them with further update.
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As a med student, i'd love to see a themed coin success.
But it requires contacts. Powerful contacts.

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January 31, 2014, 09:40:19 PM
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As a med student, i'd love to see a themed coin success.
But it requires contacts. Powerful contacts.

It does not require powerful contacts since the goal is to start out small, gradually spreading de-centralize medicine idea.  It would be great to have powerful contacts to make adoption faster. I will contact Technology Officer for various medical associations.

It just need open-mined and some compassionate providers that want to see their patients have more options to choose.
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January 31, 2014, 09:56:40 PM
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I fail to see what is innovative about this coin.
There is no advantage to using this coin to pay for health care over say Bitcoin or Litecoin.
How in any way does this coin improve the medical care situation?

Answer: it doesn't.

Way to prey on peoples fears bro!
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So it's a Scrypt Algo based coin as I mentioned, so to this point I didn't miss anything

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Cura is different not in crypto algo but in the way it is catering to provider/patients and use as a tool for putting de-centralizing medicine into practice.  

What does this mean? why aren't you able to explain? lets put it In simple words, I mine Curas or/and acquire them, so what what Am I supposed to do with them? exchange them for medicine? is that what are you saying?, do you have or are there any medicine business directories on the works that will use cura? or is it just an ethopic dream or just a plot to get people interessted?




Hey Kuroman troll, if you have problem with Cura, feel free to confront me on IRC @ curacoin on freenode since the release page is too much for that thick skull of yours. I am eagerly awaiting you.

To others, I have updated the technical plans and future plans as well. Regarding providers' office, I created a prototypes QR scanner of my own that will incorporated into Cura service, and it will use Android Phone (Raspberry Pi in the future) with front-end running on light-weight miniPC/android that will run with customed QR-backend to process Cura's wallet transaction and will divulging more details after launching.

The launching will be a short description since this pre-announcement is served as a proposal. The official link to the proposal shall be/updated at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OTUoLC5Veb5HVJeZ6CdsV0KpiwXH5orxQiU9tDFX5ic/edit for posterity.

If anyone has good input and want to join the team, contact us on IRC @ curacoin on freenode.

Troll? is this how you confront people by calling them names? I don't recall disrespecting you at any moment So you avoided answering every single point I mentioned and your miracle solution is creating a QR Code prototype lol!

Indeed as mentioned above it is final fantasy, I've read your paper and it is exactly like the same as your OP thread. Only dreams with no actual technical/material solutions, real parteners like medical, paramedical or pharmaceutical organisme/community/companies ....
So are you going to answer this point or are you going to derail, and trow at me some fantasy with no facts.

It's not like I'm against your coin and I keep repeating this, you have every right to make your altcoin and this right has to be respected as I stated before, but from there to attack me over my opinion and try to bullshit me to buy into your scheme and go passive agressive in each on your comment is another story
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January 31, 2014, 10:51:59 PM
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I wanted to ignore this theme as yetcoin. But can't. I see an idea. I see the true words (about actually problem). But I don't see any really methods, that allows to exclude the problems.
Why the target audience can't use another coin? What is difference? In the name only? And in the true words?
What is integration advantage over other currencies? (Hint: if the target audience doesn't runs to use anythink still, that means it's no profit to do).

Constructive.

If you want to greate a currency from the clean page I think you should be use the P-o-S system. And see to 2d generation. But even then I don't see any advantages over other currencies. I think the currency must have more interested sides to have a value. (Even existing great currencies have too small interested sides to be stable today). There should be any great innovation (that satisfy interests of TA).

Including the above facts I think it's more rationally today to wait the Ethirium and create a metacurrency over it. - So you'll economy the time and it's may be better result. (It's actually if you have no any great innovation).

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I would invest, this coin seems very interesting.
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I wanted to ignore this theme as yetcoin. But can't. I see an idea. I see the true words (about actually problem). But I don't see any really methods, that allows to exclude the problems.
Why the target audience can't use another coin? What is difference? In the name only? And in the true words?
What is integration advantage over other currencies? (Hint: if the target audience doesn't runs to use anythink still, that means it's no profit to do).

Constructive.

If you want to greate a currency from the clean page I think you should be use the P-o-S system. And see to 2d generation. But even then I don't see any advantages over other currencies. I think the currency must have more interested sides to have a value. (Even existing great currencies have too small interested sides to be stable today). There should be any great innovation (that satisfy interests of TA).

Including the above facts I think it's more rationally today to wait the Ethirium and create a metacurrency over it. - So you'll economy the time and it's may be better result. (It's actually if you have no any great innovation).

Wishing success. Supporting you.

thank you radfuk. i want patients to see Cura as an alternative insurance without restrictions. the whole reason for pushing Cura forward is the people and the service behind it. without revealing much information, i am a future clinician, not just from being a developer. i will introduce Cura to the local docs here as well as my friends also. also, i want to run a good but inexpensive (Raspberry pi) on top of Cura for great provider/patient experience in regarding to peer-to-peer transaction. i have been working with QR scanner software, building backend, and fudging around with affordable hardware for half a year prior to getting into Cura.

there are obvious roadblocks from old-timers docs but there are some supports as well. considering cryptocurrency is being debated, discussed, on FinCEN table in the financial circle, the idea of having a cryptocurrency in the medical field is obviously more obscure. but, that is also the reason why Cura must be push forward, so that de-centralized medicine gains more legitimacy and acceptance.

you guys can call me an idealist, an outsider, a minority, but regardless of all, a voice is still a voice.

i have an ongoing discussion on /r/medicine please check it out http://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/1wexrf/cura_proposal_to_decentralizing_medicine/
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February 03, 2014, 11:37:59 AM
 #56

I wanted to ignore this theme as yetcoin. But can't. I see an idea. I see the true words (about actually problem). But I don't see any really methods, that allows to exclude the problems.
Why the target audience can't use another coin? What is difference? In the name only? And in the true words?
What is integration advantage over other currencies? (Hint: if the target audience doesn't runs to use anythink still, that means it's no profit to do).

Constructive.

If you want to greate a currency from the clean page I think you should be use the P-o-S system. And see to 2d generation. But even then I don't see any advantages over other currencies. I think the currency must have more interested sides to have a value. (Even existing great currencies have too small interested sides to be stable today). There should be any great innovation (that satisfy interests of TA).

Including the above facts I think it's more rationally today to wait the Ethirium and create a metacurrency over it. - So you'll economy the time and it's may be better result. (It's actually if you have no any great innovation).

Wishing success. Supporting you.

thank you radfuk. i want patients to see Cura as an alternative insurance without restrictions. the whole reason for pushing Cura forward is the people and the service behind it. without revealing much information, i am a future clinician, not just from being a developer. i will introduce Cura to the local docs here as well as my friends also. also, i want to run a good but inexpensive (Raspberry pi) on top of Cura for great provider/patient experience in regarding to peer-to-peer transaction. i have been working with QR scanner software, building backend, and fudging around with affordable hardware for half a year prior to getting into Cura.

there are obvious roadblocks from old-timers docs but there are some supports as well. considering cryptocurrency is being debated, discussed, on FinCEN table in the financial circle, the idea of having a cryptocurrency in the medical field is obviously more obscure. but, that is also the reason why Cura must be push forward, so that de-centralized medicine gains more legitimacy and acceptance.

you guys can call me an idealist, an outsider, a minority, but regardless of all, a voice is still a voice.

i have an ongoing discussion on /r/medicine please check it out http://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/1wexrf/cura_proposal_to_decentralizing_medicine/

You've answered without providing an answer. So this coin will save us from the ballooning medical costs of the future because your going to tell all your doctor friends about it.
That doesn't explain why doctors couldn't use bitcoin or litecoin. They are both finite coins and are both great stores of wealth.
Atleast a PoS coin would grow in value faster and not waste electricity going forward.
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