( ̲̅:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅[̲̅ ̲̅]̲̅:̲̅:̲̅ [PRE-ANN] Cura: Proposal to De-centralize Medicine & Healthcare ( ̲̅:̲̅

[sicktoshi]

I was reading the OP and smiling waiting to reach the spec of the coin and at the end as I expected it's another scrypt clone coin lol!, (it's not a bad thing, just find it funny) I was expecting a POS + POW model at least when I was reading the patient <-> providers thingy, but nah no innovation lol!

But for the narrative I'll be following this coin

We are exploring Scrypt 2048,1,1 for memory consumption for further ASIC resistant in future forking if it gets bad. Try to see if other coins are trying to do that. Also, I am quoting from the reddit thread regarding why Cura is unique " Cura is upfront about catering to providers/patients adoption first as oppose to trying to create speculations and then merchant adoption as with other cryptos."

Also, I created a thread on /r/medicine subreddit . http://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/1wexrf/cura_proposal_to_decentralizing_medicine/ check out for my answers to concern/issues

It's still scrypt based, if it was scrypt-jane it would have been more resistant,The whole ASIC resistance argument doesn't really matter, unless scrypt market doesn't reach a certain market cap, it will be safe on it own as no company on the industrial level would consider investing R&D, Industrialisation, fab.... on scrypt coins.

" Cura is upfront about catering to providers/patients adoption first as oppose to trying to create speculations and then merchant adoption as with other cryptos."

lol? what is this even supposed to mean? so you'll have an exchange since day one? please explaine


And just to make things, clear, I'm not against your coin just expressed my amazement to the whole story line for yet another scrypt coin (you have every right to creat one, and you won't be the first or the last) and Like I said I'll be following this.

I am assume you can write another form of algo or make your own coin based on your parrot talk? Feel free. But keep in mind when you are putting down Scrypt, you are putting down about 120+ developers that are contributing to the Scrypt community. Nice going.

There are stability issues that we are concerning with other experimental types. Forking any script is easy, maintaining it and troubleshooting it is hard.

You don't have to follow Cura based on your tone, nor your understanding of previous explanation, nor taking time reading it. We at Cura will not miss you.

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[sicktoshi]

Finally signed up here to comment on this coin launch due to a ton of opportunities not yet discussed that this coin could benefit us all by...  A higher premine may be warranted if specifically used for the purposes stated below..


Setup a foundation feature that pools a portion of block rewards to actual medical research (voted on by members) or help cover costs for medical course expenses paid by aspiring students (school or elected person). If a school/doctor were to be rewarded with funds from Cura and becomes a physician, they could be more willing to grow with the causes Cura promotes and may even provide the services discussed on the first post at reduced costs.

A portion of block rewards could be used to fund development of ipad or android based medical equipment (meaning they are the devices that communicate vitals to the remote doctor/nurse) that will allow doctors/nurses to provide remote checkups for impoverished villages, disease outbreaks, or places that are affected by natural disasters.

Portions of block rewards could be provided to farmers in select communities where produce is more scarce and obesity/diabetes rates are higher. These farmers can then provide discounts to local stores to keep product expenses lower. A Cura sticker on the produce can mark items the coin directly helped.

Hope some of these ideas can be discussed further as it creates a network effect beyond direct mining.  




 
  

Can't agree more. Thank you for this wonderful suggestion BayCoins. We will definitely bring up your posting after Cura is launched.

[kuroman]

But keep in mind when you are putting down Scrypt, you are putting down about 120+ developers that are contributing to the Scrypt community. Nice going.

What are you talking about again? putting down Scrypt? stick to the point and don't derail please, I asked you a question and you failled to answer me, you are just writting some random girbish and trying to sell it at something different. Your coin is just another scrypt coin clone nothing new, nothing innovative. Again if I missed something, please explane to me and others how your coin is different from the lots as you are claiming it is don't bullshit me with cura this patient that, medicament this, what are the technical stuff you are bringing to the table.

Again for the Third time, I have nothing against your coin or scrypt coins in general, just that don't try to force your girbish text on me saying it's innovative and different and what's not, while it is just another scrypt coin (if is it not and I missed something feel free to point it for the 4th I invite you to do.)

There are stability issues that we are concerning with other experimental types. Forking any script is easy, maintaining it and troubleshooting it is hard.

You don't have to follow Cura based on your tone, nor your understanding of previous explanation, nor taking time reading it. We at Cura will not miss you.

What previous explanation? I asked to explain in my previous comment and you posted this reply with not a single explanation, so for the fifth feel free to explain.

[sicktoshi]

But keep in mind when you are putting down Scrypt, you are putting down about 120+ developers that are contributing to the Scrypt community. Nice going.

What are you talking about again? putting down Scrypt? stick to the point and don't derail please, I asked you a question and you failled to answer me, you are just writting some random girbish and trying to sell it at something different. Your coin is just another scrypt coin clone nothing new, nothing innovative. Again if I missed something, please explane to me and others how your coin is different from the lots as you are claiming it is don't bullshit me with cura this patient that, medicament this, what are the technical stuff you are bringing to the table.

Again for the Third time, I have nothing against your coin or scrypt coins in general, just that don't try to force your girbish text on me saying it's innovative and different and what's not, while it is just another scrypt coin (if is it not and I missed something feel free to point it for the 4th I invite you to do.)

There are stability issues that we are concerning with other experimental types. Forking any script is easy, maintaining it and troubleshooting it is hard.

You don't have to follow Cura based on your tone, nor your understanding of previous explanation, nor taking time reading it. We at Cura will not miss you.

What previous explanation? I asked to explain in my previous comment and you posted this reply with not a single explanation, so for the fifth feel free to explain.

Again, comprehension issue is from your end. Let me cut and paste for you on the bitcointalk release page on first page.

Keep in mind your job is a miner here on bitcointalk, nothing more.


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Reasons for Supporting Cura

Bringing cryptocurrency to a globalized healthcare
Bridging telemedicine
Supporting concierge medicine for the poor
Funding for future scientific projects
Reducing runaway healthcare inflation
Anonymous Peer to Peer payment
Catering to providers/patients adoption, first as oppose to trying to create speculations and then merchant adoption as with other cryptos.
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It is a fork of Litecoin. It is a Scrypt clonecloin similar to Dogecoin and 140 + coins over here. Mechanically algo-wise we are considering Scrypt
2048,1,1 down the road, which is new.


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Cura is different not in crypto algo but in the way it is catering to provider/patients and use as a tool for putting de-centralizing medicine into practice.  
===============

If you are not interest in Cura and its objectives, please refrain from asking further question that I honestly deemed to be moronic/idiotic and save it for those whom are interested. Cura is not just revolve around financial but also healthcare issues. The issues I brought up in the release page are mostly healthcare and social issues. There is a reason for long release bitcointalk page because it is not an easy topic to swallow.

[kuroman]

But keep in mind when you are putting down Scrypt, you are putting down about 120+ developers that are contributing to the Scrypt community. Nice going.

What are you talking about again? putting down Scrypt? stick to the point and don't derail please, I asked you a question and you failled to answer me, you are just writting some random girbish and trying to sell it at something different. Your coin is just another scrypt coin clone nothing new, nothing innovative. Again if I missed something, please explane to me and others how your coin is different from the lots as you are claiming it is don't bullshit me with cura this patient that, medicament this, what are the technical stuff you are bringing to the table.

Again for the Third time, I have nothing against your coin or scrypt coins in general, just that don't try to force your girbish text on me saying it's innovative and different and what's not, while it is just another scrypt coin (if is it not and I missed something feel free to point it for the 4th I invite you to do.)

There are stability issues that we are concerning with other experimental types. Forking any script is easy, maintaining it and troubleshooting it is hard.

You don't have to follow Cura based on your tone, nor your understanding of previous explanation, nor taking time reading it. We at Cura will not miss you.

What previous explanation? I asked to explain in my previous comment and you posted this reply with not a single explanation, so for the fifth feel free to explain.

Again, comprehension issue is from your end. Let me cut and paste for you on the bitcointalk release page on first page.

Keep in mind your job is a miner here on bitcointalk, nothing more.


=============
Reasons for Supporting Cura

Bringing cryptocurrency to a globalized healthcare
Bridging telemedicine
Supporting concierge medicine for the poor
Funding for future scientific projects
Reducing runaway healthcare inflation
Anonymous Peer to Peer payment
Catering to providers/patients adoption, first as oppose to trying to create speculations and then merchant adoption as with other cryptos.
================

It is a fork of Litecoin. It is a Scrypt clonecloin similar to Dogecoin and 140 + coins over here. Mechanically algo-wise we are considering Scrypt
2048,1,1 down the road, which is new.


===========

Cura is different not in crypto algo but in the way it is catering to provider/patients and use as a tool for putting de-centralizing medicine into practice.  
===============

If you are not interest in Cura and its objectives, please refrain from asking further question that I honestly deemed to be moronic/idiotic and save it for those whom are interested. Cura is not just revolve around financial but also healthcare issues. The issues I brought up in the release page are mostly healthcare and social issues. There is a reason for long release bitcointalk page because it is not an easy topic to swallow.

So it's a Scrypt Algo based coin as I mentioned, so to this point I didn't miss anything

Cura is different not in crypto algo but in the way it is catering to provider/patients and use as a tool for putting de-centralizing medicine into practice. 

What does this mean? why aren't you able to explain? lets put it In simple words, I mine Curas or/and acquire them, so what what Am I supposed to do with them? exchange them for medicine? is that what are you saying?, do you have or are there any medicine business directories on the works that will use cura? or is it just an ethopic dream or just a plot to get people interessted?

[sicktoshi]

So it's a Scrypt Algo based coin as I mentioned, so to this point I didn't miss anything

Cura is different not in crypto algo but in the way it is catering to provider/patients and use as a tool for putting de-centralizing medicine into practice.  

What does this mean? why aren't you able to explain? lets put it In simple words, I mine Curas or/and acquire them, so what what Am I supposed to do with them? exchange them for medicine? is that what are you saying?, do you have or are there any medicine business directories on the works that will use cura? or is it just an ethopic dream or just a plot to get people interessted?

Hey Kuroman troll, if you have problem with Cura, feel free to confront me on IRC @ curacoin on freenode since the release page is too much for that thick skull of yours. I am eagerly awaiting you.

To others, I have updated the technical plans and future plans as well. Regarding providers' office, I created a prototypes QR scanner of my own that will incorporated into Cura service, and it will use Android Phone (Raspberry Pi in the future) with front-end running on light-weight miniPC/android that will run with customed QR-backend to process Cura's wallet transaction and will divulging more details after launching.

The launching will be a short description since this pre-announcement is served as a proposal. The official link to the proposal shall be/updated at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OTUoLC5Veb5HVJeZ6CdsV0KpiwXH5orxQiU9tDFX5ic/edit for posterity.

If anyone has good input and want to join the team, contact us on IRC @ curacoin on freenode.

[iarsenaux]

Final fantasy

[sicktoshi]

Final fantasy

We rather try doing something than not doing anything  . I myself want to instill the de-centralize medicine movement.


I have update the Proposal "For Providers" and "For Patients" as well at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OTUoLC5Veb5HVJeZ6CdsV0KpiwXH5orxQiU9tDFX5ic/edit.

Also have pictures of my QR scanner prototype. Will post them with further update.

[UrsaMajorisBeta]

As a med student, i'd love to see a themed coin success.
But it requires contacts. Powerful contacts.

[sicktoshi]

As a med student, i'd love to see a themed coin success.
But it requires contacts. Powerful contacts.

It does not require powerful contacts since the goal is to start out small, gradually spreading de-centralize medicine idea.  It would be great to have powerful contacts to make adoption faster. I will contact Technology Officer for various medical associations.

It just need open-mined and some compassionate providers that want to see their patients have more options to choose.

[TheMightyX]

I fail to see what is innovative about this coin.
There is no advantage to using this coin to pay for health care over say Bitcoin or Litecoin.
How in any way does this coin improve the medical care situation?

Answer: it doesn't.

Way to prey on peoples fears bro!

[kuroman]

So it's a Scrypt Algo based coin as I mentioned, so to this point I didn't miss anything

Cura is different not in crypto algo but in the way it is catering to provider/patients and use as a tool for putting de-centralizing medicine into practice.  

What does this mean? why aren't you able to explain? lets put it In simple words, I mine Curas or/and acquire them, so what what Am I supposed to do with them? exchange them for medicine? is that what are you saying?, do you have or are there any medicine business directories on the works that will use cura? or is it just an ethopic dream or just a plot to get people interessted?

Hey Kuroman troll, if you have problem with Cura, feel free to confront me on IRC @ curacoin on freenode since the release page is too much for that thick skull of yours. I am eagerly awaiting you.

To others, I have updated the technical plans and future plans as well. Regarding providers' office, I created a prototypes QR scanner of my own that will incorporated into Cura service, and it will use Android Phone (Raspberry Pi in the future) with front-end running on light-weight miniPC/android that will run with customed QR-backend to process Cura's wallet transaction and will divulging more details after launching.

The launching will be a short description since this pre-announcement is served as a proposal. The official link to the proposal shall be/updated at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OTUoLC5Veb5HVJeZ6CdsV0KpiwXH5orxQiU9tDFX5ic/edit for posterity.

If anyone has good input and want to join the team, contact us on IRC @ curacoin on freenode.

Troll? is this how you confront people by calling them names? I don't recall disrespecting you at any moment So you avoided answering every single point I mentioned and your miracle solution is creating a QR Code prototype lol!

Indeed as mentioned above it is final fantasy, I've read your paper and it is exactly like the same as your OP thread. Only dreams with no actual technical/material solutions, real parteners like medical, paramedical or pharmaceutical organisme/community/companies ....
So are you going to answer this point or are you going to derail, and trow at me some fantasy with no facts.

It's not like I'm against your coin and I keep repeating this, you have every right to make your altcoin and this right has to be respected as I stated before, but from there to attack me over my opinion and try to bullshit me to buy into your scheme and go passive agressive in each on your comment is another story

[radfuk]

I wanted to ignore this theme as yetcoin. But can't. I see an idea. I see the true words (about actually problem). But I don't see any really methods, that allows to exclude the problems.
Why the target audience can't use another coin? What is difference? In the name only? And in the true words?
What is integration advantage over other currencies? (Hint: if the target audience doesn't runs to use anythink still, that means it's no profit to do).

Constructive.

If you want to greate a currency from the clean page I think you should be use the P-o-S system. And see to 2d generation. But even then I don't see any advantages over other currencies. I think the currency must have more interested sides to have a value. (Even existing great currencies have too small interested sides to be stable today). There should be any great innovation (that satisfy interests of TA).

Including the above facts I think it's more rationally today to wait the Ethirium and create a metacurrency over it. - So you'll economy the time and it's may be better result. (It's actually if you have no any great innovation).

Wishing success. Supporting you.

[passionsurf]

I would invest, this coin seems very interesting.

[sicktoshi]

I wanted to ignore this theme as yetcoin. But can't. I see an idea. I see the true words (about actually problem). But I don't see any really methods, that allows to exclude the problems.
Why the target audience can't use another coin? What is difference? In the name only? And in the true words?
What is integration advantage over other currencies? (Hint: if the target audience doesn't runs to use anythink still, that means it's no profit to do).

Constructive.

If you want to greate a currency from the clean page I think you should be use the P-o-S system. And see to 2d generation. But even then I don't see any advantages over other currencies. I think the currency must have more interested sides to have a value. (Even existing great currencies have too small interested sides to be stable today). There should be any great innovation (that satisfy interests of TA).

Including the above facts I think it's more rationally today to wait the Ethirium and create a metacurrency over it. - So you'll economy the time and it's may be better result. (It's actually if you have no any great innovation).

Wishing success. Supporting you.

thank you radfuk. i want patients to see Cura as an alternative insurance without restrictions. the whole reason for pushing Cura forward is the people and the service behind it. without revealing much information, i am a future clinician, not just from being a developer. i will introduce Cura to the local docs here as well as my friends also. also, i want to run a good but inexpensive (Raspberry pi) on top of Cura for great provider/patient experience in regarding to peer-to-peer transaction. i have been working with QR scanner software, building backend, and fudging around with affordable hardware for half a year prior to getting into Cura.

there are obvious roadblocks from old-timers docs but there are some supports as well. considering cryptocurrency is being debated, discussed, on FinCEN table in the financial circle, the idea of having a cryptocurrency in the medical field is obviously more obscure. but, that is also the reason why Cura must be push forward, so that de-centralized medicine gains more legitimacy and acceptance.

you guys can call me an idealist, an outsider, a minority, but regardless of all, a voice is still a voice.

i have an ongoing discussion on /r/medicine please check it out http://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/1wexrf/cura_proposal_to_decentralizing_medicine/

[TheMightyX]

I wanted to ignore this theme as yetcoin. But can't. I see an idea. I see the true words (about actually problem). But I don't see any really methods, that allows to exclude the problems.
Why the target audience can't use another coin? What is difference? In the name only? And in the true words?
What is integration advantage over other currencies? (Hint: if the target audience doesn't runs to use anythink still, that means it's no profit to do).

Constructive.

If you want to greate a currency from the clean page I think you should be use the P-o-S system. And see to 2d generation. But even then I don't see any advantages over other currencies. I think the currency must have more interested sides to have a value. (Even existing great currencies have too small interested sides to be stable today). There should be any great innovation (that satisfy interests of TA).

Including the above facts I think it's more rationally today to wait the Ethirium and create a metacurrency over it. - So you'll economy the time and it's may be better result. (It's actually if you have no any great innovation).

Wishing success. Supporting you.

thank you radfuk. i want patients to see Cura as an alternative insurance without restrictions. the whole reason for pushing Cura forward is the people and the service behind it. without revealing much information, i am a future clinician, not just from being a developer. i will introduce Cura to the local docs here as well as my friends also. also, i want to run a good but inexpensive (Raspberry pi) on top of Cura for great provider/patient experience in regarding to peer-to-peer transaction. i have been working with QR scanner software, building backend, and fudging around with affordable hardware for half a year prior to getting into Cura.

there are obvious roadblocks from old-timers docs but there are some supports as well. considering cryptocurrency is being debated, discussed, on FinCEN table in the financial circle, the idea of having a cryptocurrency in the medical field is obviously more obscure. but, that is also the reason why Cura must be push forward, so that de-centralized medicine gains more legitimacy and acceptance.

you guys can call me an idealist, an outsider, a minority, but regardless of all, a voice is still a voice.

i have an ongoing discussion on /r/medicine please check it out http://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/1wexrf/cura_proposal_to_decentralizing_medicine/

You've answered without providing an answer. So this coin will save us from the ballooning medical costs of the future because your going to tell all your doctor friends about it.
That doesn't explain why doctors couldn't use bitcoin or litecoin. They are both finite coins and are both great stores of wealth.
Atleast a PoS coin would grow in value faster and not waste electricity going forward.