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January 26, 2014, 11:07:48 AM
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This is the thief's address:

16CLrCq8c1M8qsCYNP5r21AejMWUgZS7uk

Let's keep hunting!

Starting from that address, which has now a balance of 0 BTC, if you follow all the transactions involving the money, you will go through numerous addresses which in turn sent the whole amount (thus remaining with a 0 balance) to the next one. Why is that?

@ OP: why did you wait almost 2 days to report the theft?

the money is actually going down bcos they are spending it... spent coins are even harder to trace...

theres only 48 BTC left

https://blockchain.info/address/1MWkEYti5YjspJmnWY1r48Tj9kQjgPUtxG


looks like a lot of transactions propagating from a 0 location (this shows up as somewhere in the ocean under ghana on the world map because thats where 0 longitude and 0 latitude are.. ie NO location).. this sometimes means the transaction comes from blockchain.info itself (ie a blockchain.info wallet).. if it is indeed a blockchain.info wallet, you could try to contact blockchain.info and ask them to freeze the wallet if you can prove the money was yours in the first place. I have no idea if they will help you or not but its worth a shot.


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January 26, 2014, 11:22:32 AM
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First off sorry dude that really sucks. Secondly even if you could find out the person responsible, it's gonna be really tough to get the coins back. I know of several people in here who got scammed out of coins a few months ago. We were able to find out his exact address and identity because he scammed me on eBay too. With that said I reported it to the police but they are not all that excited to jump on a bitcoin case. They did take the report, but I still have yet to see any indication they've even questioned this guy
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January 26, 2014, 11:26:26 AM
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Whoever helps recover the loss will be rewarded with half of the recovered BTC, that is 45 BTC's, I promise.
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January 26, 2014, 11:43:26 AM
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Whoever helps recover the loss will be rewarded with half of the recovered BTC, that is 45 BTC's, I promise.

The chance of getting back your btc is very slim indeed.
Anyway, good luck OP.
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January 26, 2014, 11:59:52 AM
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I know, but maybe someone would take the challenge for good.
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January 26, 2014, 12:03:42 PM
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I don't know if this is related, but I had two very odd transactions in my bitcoin QT wallet (0.8.5), which is encrypted (with a strong password) and locked, when I started my wallet this morning:

I received 2.28702289 BTC with transaction ID 00d5a7f30eb82873ce9d4950c4a084be47d25d5ce39bd0f245c763fb756ca197 at 25.01.2014 21:35. I was not expecting this payment.

I then apparently SENT 2.4700226 BTC to 1LensmQKWbFM5UJjWEokWgZLNWZGZqn4rX with transaction ID 4c10dfc08ea4f7a49a7bf871b1e1dacba56d95e69819bb32eec85fac20e1ef08 at 26.01.2014 12:27

This latter transaction currently has status 5/unconfirmed.

I do not have any malware or key loggers on my PC according to my antivirus software. the wallet software was not even active when the transaction was supposedly executed - I launched it at around 12:45.
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January 26, 2014, 12:22:06 PM
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Haa, you mean you received BTCs from an unkown payer? Odd indeed.
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January 26, 2014, 12:25:54 PM
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Hey, I have to say that I have no antivirus nor firewall (using Windows7)...

I've donwloaded at least 10 xxcoin-qt (bitcoin-qt, litecoin-qt, etc...)

All of them have some coins.

Stop believing antivirus.

These attacks comes from a way that all these security suites are not capable to stop ir detect.

There are several ways to bypass these programs.

I'm a developer.

I cant explain here in just a few words how many methods to do this exists.

But there are a lot of different methods that can be used together.

If you want to be your own bank, remember to secure it



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January 26, 2014, 12:29:11 PM
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ElGrandJefe,
Is this your address?
1NxdocxSrybTnr4ihzHFMwT88aTyCnqcKx
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January 26, 2014, 12:32:54 PM
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This recently happend to me to , are you sure you haven't been keylogged or anything?
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January 26, 2014, 12:35:19 PM
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This recently happend to me to , are you sure you haven't been keylogged or anything?

You too? No, I am not sure.
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January 26, 2014, 12:48:45 PM
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Haa, you mean you received BTCs from an unkown payer? Odd indeed.
Yes, and a somewhat larger amount was deducted 12 hours later.

ElGrandJefe,
Is this your address?
1NxdocxSrybTnr4ihzHFMwT88aTyCnqcKx
Yes, that's me.
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January 26, 2014, 12:51:30 PM
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So many transactions happened, but you did not do anything?
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January 26, 2014, 01:04:21 PM
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I started my wallet software for the first time in 5 days, then the two transactions showed up within 5 minutes of each other, as my wallet was updating the block chain. I usually don't keep my wallet software open unless I am making a transfer or expect one. Otherwise I update my block chain around once per week.

There were only two transactions.
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January 26, 2014, 01:10:19 PM
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I agree! The use of Bitcoin must be made foolproof! We can't expect the general public to embrace it if the process of safely storing your money is so damn USER-UNFRIENDLY!


I don't agree. If you are unable to secure your own Bitcoins properly, use a 3rd party online wallet and hope they don't get hacked. That is how our entire fiat banking system works, after all.

Bitcoin allows an individual with a modicum of computer skills to store their bitcoins more securely than has ever been possible - far more secure than any online or physical bank. I'm getting pretty sick and tired of people listing this incredibly powerful attribute as something that needs to be fixed for the benefit of all the careless people out there.  There is no push-button security system that will allow you to easily access to your bitcoins and keep them perfectly safe - they are diametrically opposed principles, and balancing between the two requires a deep understanding of how both work.  If you can't be bothered, give your coins to a bank/online wallet you trust. If you can't be bothered and can't trust anyone, tough luck.

And yes, I do believe in banks - security deposit boxes are great for holding encrypted flash drives with backups, just remember to use a keyfile...
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January 26, 2014, 01:16:29 PM
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For everyone who has had coins stolen from their wallet, what sort of passwords are you using? Are they long/random/lots of characters and numbers?
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January 26, 2014, 01:26:20 PM
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I agree! The use of Bitcoin must be made foolproof! We can't expect the general public to embrace it if the process of safely storing your money is so damn USER-UNFRIENDLY!


I don't agree. If you are unable to secure your own Bitcoins properly, use a 3rd party online wallet and hope they don't get hacked. That is how our entire fiat banking system works, after all.



Currently fiat is backed by armys though.  Bitcoin is new & at best backed by the rich early adopters.

More safe easy hassle free storage is needed if we want retarded sheep public (90%) to embrace it.
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January 26, 2014, 02:43:42 PM
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Make paper wallets and use them as repositories for large amounts... store them in a safe deposit box and/or encrypt images of the wallets in truecrypt archives, never storing more than 5 BTC in any one wallet.  Sorry about your loss. It's one of the risks of using crypto currencies at this point. Mainstream acceptance is still a ways off given the technical knowledge required to secure large amounts of cash.

Also people who attack the 'retarded sheep public' thinking themselves somehow enlightened and better than everyone else, I'll never understand that... you are NO better than anyone... get off your high horse.
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January 26, 2014, 02:57:30 PM
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I would also say to keep any progress made on finding this guy private. When I got scammed the guy was in fact posting on the thread trying to throw people off his trail. It's possible the guy who scammed you has seen this thread and that might motivate them to act more quickly if they think you've got some information on them
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January 26, 2014, 03:03:39 PM
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Also people who attack the 'retarded sheep public' thinking themselves somehow enlightened and better than everyone else, I'll never understand that... you are NO better than anyone... get off your high horse.

Those who invest/contribute/use crypto are fighting the good fight.

Those who know about crypto or similar yet choose fiat vs it dont represent me, i dont care for them, they dont care for me.
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