Rotchilds and Wallestreet stopping the market rise ?

[anushkasachith888]

I think bitcoin and other altcoin prices should be going up by now. but it doesn't happen. I guess Rothschilds are on it. Bankers, and, Wall Street, they're all on it. I feel like we're being forced to stop and wait for them to get on and take control of the next leg of the journey. Meanwhile, we are still patient.

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[mrtryonebiggums]

Could be true but like all conspiracy theories there is no way to prove or disprove that train of thought. That is why they are fun to theorize about, but in actuality proving them is a whole other ordeal.

[batang_bitcoin]

I think bitcoin and other altcoin prices should be going up by now. but it doesn't happen.

Look at the market rise now bitcoin from $7,100 --> $7,500 so I guess it's happening. And you shouldn't be disappointed if the rise isn't happening so quick.

I guess Rothschilds are on it. Bankers, and, Wall Street, they're all on it. I feel like we're being forced to stop and wait for them to get on and take control of the next leg of the journey. Meanwhile, we are still patient.

Can't give names but for sure there's a manipulation behind it.
We are riding their boat so if their boat starts to move then we are already good to go and we have to wait for their signal.

[KingScorpio]

I think bitcoin and other altcoin prices should be going up by now. but it doesn't happen. I guess Rothschilds are on it. Bankers, and, Wall Street, they're all on it. I feel like we're being forced to stop and wait for them to get on and take control of the next leg of the journey. Meanwhile, we are still patient.

jes they are hating cryptoeconomics and the industry. they are now arming up their "watchdogs" against the so called "securities"

this is a huge issue actually without securities and security shaped assets the blockchain industry becomes like bunch of idiots competing against each other for market attention with their disgusting propaganda coins.

i am writing an article about that issue its not finished yet but soon:

https://www.cryptoproductivity.com/single-post/2018/05/29/Securities-A-meaningful-emerging-Battlefield-against-the-Banking-Cartells-and-their-lobbism-and-the-real-deal-for-Cryptoeconomics

without security shaped digital assets the industry cant successfully decentralise the financial system away from the creepy banksters and their rothshield masters.

[Febo]

I think bitcoin and other altcoin prices should be going up by now. but it doesn't happen. I guess Rothschilds are on it. Bankers, and, Wall Street, they're all on it. I feel like we're being forced to stop and wait for them to get on and take control of the next leg of the journey. Meanwhile, we are still patient.

They cant do anything if they don't have any Bitcoin. First they need to buy Bitcoins and push price up to millions and only then they can start manipulate the market.

[davis196]

I think bitcoin and other altcoin prices should be going up by now. but it doesn't happen.

Look at the market rise now bitcoin from $7,100 --> $7,500 so I guess it's happening. And you shouldn't be disappointed if the rise isn't happening so quick.

I guess Rothschilds are on it. Bankers, and, Wall Street, they're all on it. I feel like we're being forced to stop and wait for them to get on and take control of the next leg of the journey. Meanwhile, we are still patient.

Can't give names but for sure there's a manipulation behind it.
We are riding their boat so if their boat starts to move then we are already good to go and we have to wait for their signal.

I price increase with 400 USD is not what I call "growth".The BTC price goes up and down by 500 USD every day.Anyway,first there were Wall Street and now Rohtschilds.I`m waiting for more conspiracy theories about the btc price manipulation,including aliens,the roman catholic church and Vladimir Putin.
Can we stop those rumors?

[Pursuer]

you are trying to come up with a conspiracy theory but the fact is that there is no incentive for them to do this and also there are bigger whales in bitcoin that a new person or group wanting to come in would be considered a small fish unless they spend a couple of millions over a long period of time because they need to get in first and buy from the rest of us.

not to mention that price of bitcoin will eventually rise back up like it always does after a bear market period ends.
as for altcoins I disagree with what you said, they should NOT rise anytime soon. a lot of them need to get dumped a lot more before they can be considered "out of a bubble"

[BitcoinNewbie15]

you are trying to come up with a conspiracy theory but the fact is that there is no incentive for them to do this and also there are bigger whales in bitcoin that a new person or group wanting to come in would be considered a small fish unless they spend a couple of millions over a long period of time because they need to get in first and buy from the rest of us.

not to mention that price of bitcoin will eventually rise back up like it always does after a bear market period ends.
as for altcoins I disagree with what you said, they should NOT rise anytime soon. a lot of them need to get dumped a lot more before they can be considered "out of a bubble"

These conspiracy theories are very likely false. The whole "keeping the price low so they can accumulate" idea hasn't made much sense to me. People have been saying that for every price drop since $200. Why would Billionaires keep the price low so they can buy and make a few million? Hardly worth their time/effort.

[BrewMaster]

why now? where were you when price was rising. i mean price went from around $900 to $20000 in 2017 in only 13 months and you weren't saying anything about Rotchilds and Wallstreets pumping the price up fakely but you are here now that price is going down saying "they" are pushing it down!
if you don't believe they pumped it then you shouldn't believe they are dumping it either.

[TheQuin]

if you don't believe they pumped it then you shouldn't believe they are dumping it either.

It really is funny to watch the tinfoil hatters at work. Whenever the market goes down there has to be an evil force at work. In this case, let's use the antisemitic trope of the Rothschilds and everyone's goto baddies, Wall Street in general. Oh well, it does make a change from Tether being blamed for pumping it up, I'm starting to miss that.

[Denker]

I think bitcoin and other altcoin prices should be going up by now. but it doesn't happen. I guess Rothschilds are on it. Bankers, and, Wall Street, they're all on it. I feel like we're being forced to stop and wait for them to get on and take control of the next leg of the journey. Meanwhile, we are still patient.

LOL.
Come on man! Please don't come around with those Rothschild nonsense.
And just because YOU think the price should be going, doesn't mean the market is of the same opinion.
There may be some price manipulation going on at the moment, but always remember that this could happen or has already happened in the other direction as well. The market is still very tiny and big investors of course can play the market for a while.

[crairezx20]

I think this is not the reason why the price stop increasing I think this is not a time right now to see the bitcoin price to increase again maybe we should wait for more days or weeks and maybe the market movement will change.
The movement of the price right now is increased in the past few hours and I think the reason why the price was increasing a bit it's because of the article from Forbes, according to the article China has no plan to ban bitcoin and cryptocurrency except for ICO's.
Since bitcoin is unpredictable the possibility of the price increase us 50/50 so the only thing that we can do is to buy when the price is drop then sell if the price increase more than 10% to 25% to make profit.

[HabBear]

I guess Rothschilds are on it. Bankers, and, Wall Street, they're all on it. I feel like we're being forced to stop and wait for them to get on and take control of the next leg of the journey. Meanwhile, we are still patient.

"I feel" is not fact.

The Rothschilds have significantly less influence in the global market place than they did 200 years ago, they're reputation fuels their mystique.

And presuming the Rothschild family or whales on Wall Street could influence the market - how would they do it?

How could they influence the price being down or stagnant? They can't influence it through participating in the market, because if they buy any they'd drive the price up. So would they be conducting a global campaign to keep people disinterested in Bitcoin? Sounds like a lot of effort for something that already exists.

The general public still feels that cryptocurrency and Bitcoin is a fad. The reason the price is down is because the industry is still incubating ideas that will force the general public to turn their head our direction and get on board!

[Samarkand]

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It really is funny to watch the tinfoil hatters at work. Whenever the market goes down there has to be an evil force at work. In this case, let's use the antisemitic trope of the Rothschilds and everyone's goto baddies, Wall Street in general. Oh well, it does make a change from Tether being blamed for pumping it up, I'm starting to miss that.

Don´t worry, just give the DOJ and the CTFC some more time.

This article was published a few days ago:
https://modernconsensus.com/cryptocurrencies/bitcoin/bitfinex-tether-investigation/

Two Bloomberg stories about bitcoin published within an hour of each other on Thursday seemed
barely related. But to those who follow the space closely, they are really the same story—and it’s perhaps the
biggest story in crypto, one that may yet turn out to be the Enron of the cryptocurrency world, if not worse.

The first piece, which went live at 4 a.m. Eastern Time, said the Department of Justice is conducting
a criminal probe into bitcoin price manipulation. The feds are said to be looking at the practices of spoofing
and executing wash trades to move the price of the cryptocurrency.

While the total tether market cap is under $3 billion, it’s still an integral part of the cryptocurrency trading market.
Devaluing—or outright removing it—could potentially cripple trading in the $20 billion-per-day market and cut the
$330 billion in total market cap for all crypto.

But according to another story published by Bloomberg exactly one hour after the piece about the DOJ investigation,
Bitfinex and Tether found banking in Puerto Rico. The piece never mentioned ING, even though ING confirmed to Reuters that Bitfinex was an accountholder.

The Tether situation is probably not over yet if you ask me. I just think
that these investigations take time, especially when so many jurisdictions
and so many different entities (from Panamanian firms, to a Puerto Rican bank, to
a Hong Kong exchange and even US government agencies) are involved.

[TheQuin]

Don´t worry, just give the DOJ and the CTFC some more time.

You missed the important quote:

The Bloomberg story said there was an investigation into how those two practices were used to rig bitcoin, but missing in the entire piece was the “who”—as in, who was being investigated. 

You also missed that spoofing is a short-term tactic scalpers use, it has no effect on long-term price. It also has nothing to do with printing fake Tethers to inflate the price. To get the thread back on topic that is what I was comparing to the conspiracy theories of the OP in the opposite market direction. The market didn't pop because Tether blew up like they were all predicting. It just did what Bitcoin does and had a blow-off top based on very little happening at the time.


Where have you been hiding? I haven't seen you for ages.

[Samarkand]

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You also missed that spoofing is a short-term tactic scalpers use, it has no effect on long-term price. ...

On secound thought you are right. I somehow assumed that spoofing would also influence long-term price.

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It just did what Bitcoin does and had a blow-off top based on very little happening at the time.

In order to stay on-topic:
What could be another catalyst for a new bull-run? Of course there are possibilities like the approval
of a Bitcoin ETF (seems unlikely for now) or the upcoming block reward halving (is still more than 2 years
away) or the Lightning Network. Nevertheless, it still looks like a classic blow-off top, which could
be the indication of yet another prolonged bear market.

[dothebeats]

I wouldn't wonder if they are already in the market controlling it at will whenever they like and wanted to, but this is yet another conspiracy theory IMO. Anyone can enter and leave the market freely without making any noise--unless they wanted attention or let others know that they are in--so there's a possibility that deep pockets in Wall Street and the Rotschilds are already invested and involved with the trading actions happening in the market. As for the previous rise, I would say that it's pure FOMO which lead us to $19500, and partly the Gox trustee's fault why it burst so fast since he just downed thousands of bitcoins in an exchange in one go. Manipulation has always been in private and public markets alike. Some of it are just too subtle to notice but others are obvious, just like the fancy spikes without any clear reason in bitcoin and other cryptos.

[Bardman]

Yea let's just go full conspiracy theory on this shit, the Rotchilds are powerful but they are not fucking gods, some people really like to mystify shit. There is no discussion, we have market manipulation but not only here, everywhere but it's not as big as some people like to think.

[Baofeng]

I think bitcoin and other altcoin prices should be going up by now. but it doesn't happen. I guess Rothschilds are on it. Bankers, and, Wall Street, they're all on it. I feel like we're being forced to stop and wait for them to get on and take control of the next leg of the journey. Meanwhile, we are still patient.

I don't know, maybe its just a conspiracy theory. But I haven't to agree that we should take off by now. But then again, their are a lot of nations around the world who are conspiring and waging war against crypto that's why we are having a difficult time to make a break out run. We have been struggling, but we need one trigger, and we need to be patience because I'm sure one positive news will turn this around very quick.

[TheQuin]

What could be another catalyst for a new bull-run? Of course there are possibilities like the approval
of a Bitcoin ETF (seems unlikely for now) or the upcoming block reward halving (is still more than 2 years
away) or the Lightning Network. Nevertheless, it still looks like a classic blow-off top, which could
be the indication of yet another prolonged bear market.

I don't know if you saw this: The Wealthy Are Hoarding $10 Billion of Bitcoin in Bunkers.

At the moment that sort of service is only available to a very select few. When mainstream investment firms have the capability to provide custodial services that satisfy the regulators then they'll be able to offer products to a much wider audience. ETFs are part of that picture but there is much more to it.

Other than that it is always news driven, so any story could come along and set a new narrative. That's what makes predicting markets in the medium to long term not much more accurate than guessing.


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