AMD cards lead to stuttering Windows 10 after installing drivers. Any ideas?

[Andartis]

Hi guys!
I have a Windows 10 Rig (yeah, I know, Linux is better, but given it is a windows 10 rig for now). All risers are fine, I put in 6 Vega 64 and 4 Radeon 580 one at a time. All are shown fine in the device manager. Then I installed the drivers without any problems. But as soon as the drivers (18.5.1) are installed and I reboot, the system begins to stutter.
No enhanced CPU load
Cards show up in the device manager fine
But miners dont recognize them...
Fresh install
PSUs are powerful enough
All updates applied
RAM 16 GB
CPU is i3

When I DDU the drivers, all is fine again.

This occured on a Gigabyte Fintec and also now on a ASUS B250 Mining Expert. I tried the ASUS I had in another Rig afterwards, because ASUS "guarantees" that the AMD cards work in the configuration shown in the FAQ. I put them exactly as shown and all slots are green. So its not a mainboard problem.

Has anybody an idea?

Thanks in advance.

Regards

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[toptek12]

Try these driver https://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/previous/detail?os=Windows%2010%20-%2064&rev=18.3.4 and this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2815803.0

 or do a search on anorak.tech > https://anorak.tech/community/t/tutorial-setting-up-your-sapphire-rx570-rx580-mining-rig-high-hashrate/83269  for the updated version of this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2815803.0 it's called AMD-Compute-n-Stability-Script_v2.0.zip an you need to start a account on anorak.tech  to download anything .


Tutorial - Setting up your Sapphire RX570/RX580 Mining Rig (high hashrate)  works for all AMD Cards. I believe even Vega's .

https://anorak.tech/community/t/tutorial-setting-up-your-sapphire-rx570-rx580-mining-rig-high-hashrate/83269


I had the stutter no matter what i did it nothing worked with my h81 6 slot board and the new windows update 1083 after i run the AMD-Compute-n-Stability-Script_v2.0.zip it went away . I'll try to share it on my google account so you can download it direct .


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1leSgKMvTltAba8pp3FS_LTSh4iE_7Gmz/view?usp=sharing

[squallw]

Try to mine first only with the 6x vegas if all good you can add RX580 one by one and do the mining test.

Im mining in windows10 with 8x mixed RX470/480/570 and it is all fine.
My driver is version 17.12.2.

[toptek12]

Try to mine first only with the 6x vegas if all good you can add RX580 one by one and do the mining test.

Im mining in windows10 with 8x mixed RX470/480/570 and it is all fine.
My driver is version 17.12.2.

afterburner 4.50 works again with all most any amount of AMD cards and any driver .. they finally fixed it once again ...

[Andartis]

I tried the Blockchain drivers. But my system crashes. I get a bootloop with a bluescreen.
I also had tried the older drivers. Did not work...

[yrk1957]

I tried the Blockchain drivers. But my system crashes. I get a bootloop with a bluescreen.
I also had tried the older drivers. Did not work...

What miner did you try? Try Cast XMR, works with Vega and latest drivers.

As the other guy said, try with only Vegas first.

Another option is install one card, install drivers. Reboot, verify card and shutdown.
Then add second card. Reboot, verify card and shutdown. Repeat this for all cards, one by one.

[Andartis]

Yeah, I already did that, too yesterday. Took some time... Each card works fine on its own.
Its independent of the miner. System stutters immideately.

[Andartis]

So, since I got 6x Vega and 8x 580, I had combinations to try. Right now, in another rig i mixed 4x 580 to 8 1070Tis. Same problem. Then I removed one and the problem was solved. Then i put it back in and the problem returned. Then i removed another 580 and it was good again.

I dont understand this... Max 3 AMD cards? Lol

[yrk1957]

So, since I got 6x Vega and 8x 580, I had combinations to try. Right now, in another rig i mixed 4x 580 to 8 1070Tis. Same problem. Then I removed one and the problem was solved. Then i put it back in and the problem returned. Then i removed another 580 and it was good again.

I dont understand this... Max 3 AMD cards? Lol

Have you tried only Vegas or only 580s? Maybe mixing them is also a problem.

[Andartis]

Have you tried only Vegas or only 580s? Maybe mixing them is also a problem.

Yes. So far 3x 580 run fine, even if i add the 1070 tis.
6 Vegas wont run. I managed to get 5 running. As soon as i add aanother one, it stutters.

I need to solve this 

[yrk1957]

Have you tried only Vegas or only 580s? Maybe mixing them is also a problem.

Yes. So far 3x 580 run fine, even if i add the 1070 tis.
6 Vegas wont run. I managed to get 5 running. As soon as i add aanother one, it stutters.

I need to solve this 

Have you tried leaving the system alone, say for an hour, when it stutters? Maybe it will sort it out after some time, if its a one time thing.

[Andartis]

Have you tried only Vegas or only 580s? Maybe mixing them is also a problem.

Yes. So far 3x 580 run fine, even if i add the 1070 tis.
6 Vegas wont run. I managed to get 5 running. As soon as i add aanother one, it stutters.

I need to solve this 

Have you tried leaving the system alone, say for an hour, when it stutters? Maybe it will sort it out after some time, if its a one time thing.

So like it needs time to sort drivers and stuff? Since I was eating once and doing several other things while trying out different things, the system was on its own for some time for sure. Problem is, that often then lag became so severe that system froze.

So far i found out:
-It is not card related since it does not matter if I replace one card with another on the same place when having 3 cards in the rig. No stutter occurs. It occurs as soon as I add another card.
-It also occurs when I put in only Vegas or only 580 of the same vendor.
-DDU or windows reinstalling did not work.
-Its an UEFI system with GPT
-12 NVIDIA GPUs work on the exact same motherboard
-Installing one after the other did not help.
-Blockchain driver gives me blue screen and boot loops.
-Older drivers also have the problem

I dont know what to try next. Maybe its some kind of BIOS settings?

[toptek12]

any modded bios ?.

How to setup B250 Asus motherboard for cryptocurrency mining


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fNpfOL7ZZA


Gigabyte B250-Fintech Mining Motherboard Review and Bios Settings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brMEfc_wNFo

Enable All PCIe Slots Mining on Gigabyte Motherboards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2JfPyIMwK8

and did you try the AMD-Compute-n-Stability-Script_v2.0.zip i linked.

I'm no newbie my other account was hacked an i can't get it back.

I'm building my 4 th rig to day with this

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073ZMZV6K/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[yrk1957]

Have you tried only Vegas or only 580s? Maybe mixing them is also a problem.

Yes. So far 3x 580 run fine, even if i add the 1070 tis.
6 Vegas wont run. I managed to get 5 running. As soon as i add aanother one, it stutters.

I need to solve this 

Have you tried leaving the system alone, say for an hour, when it stutters? Maybe it will sort it out after some time, if its a one time thing.

So like it needs time to sort drivers and stuff? Since I was eating once and doing several other things while trying out different things, the system was on its own for some time for sure. Problem is, that often then lag became so severe that system froze.

Yes, time to sort drivers etc. I have two B250 motherboards with AMD but only 5/6 cards (Vega 56/64). A few times while setting the cards up, the remote desktop session would hang with a black screen at startup. In these time I also re-booted the whole thing when stuck, but it never helped. I had to re-install Windows and then allow time to settle down. Getting AMD based setup working is just PITA sometimes.

But looks like you have done this already.

[Andartis]

Yes, time to sort drivers etc. I have two B250 motherboards with AMD but only 5/6 cards (Vega 56/64). A few times while setting the cards up, the remote desktop session would hang with a black screen at startup. In these time I also re-booted the whole thing when stuck, but it never helped. I had to re-install Windows and then allow time to settle down. Getting AMD based setup working is just PITA sometimes.

But looks like you have done this already.

Yes, I know that phenomenon. I went past that. What drivers are you using?

[yrk1957]

Yes, time to sort drivers etc. I have two B250 motherboards with AMD but only 5/6 cards (Vega 56/64). A few times while setting the cards up, the remote desktop session would hang with a black screen at startup. In these time I also re-booted the whole thing when stuck, but it never helped. I had to re-install Windows and then allow time to settle down. Getting AMD based setup working is just PITA sometimes.

But looks like you have done this already.

Yes, I know that phenomenon. I went past that. What drivers are you using?

I had the setups running with Blockchain, then along came a Windows 10 update a couple of weeks ago and wrecked them. Then I installed the latest Crimson drivers and everything has been fine, no more card disable/enable required at start-up.

If your Windows is up to date, then just go with latest drivers.

[Andartis]

I posted this in another thread, but if someone stumbles upon this one, here is the solution:

Ok, so I got it up and running!
Thank you toptek12 for the useful script.

The thing I did not notice and that I was up to try next was the Crossfire settings. I remembered that someone told me something about this for AMD cards (these were my first AMD cards for mining). You have to turn Crossfire and Ultra Low Power mode off in order to get the cards to work. This is possible via the registry, what takes some time to set. Then I found out that the AMD-Compute-n-Stability-Script_v2.0 that toptek12 mentioned in another thread does exactly that in a conveniant way. So I used it (DL from Anoraktech).

Step by step:
1.) Remove any drivers in Safe mode with DDU.
2.) Reboot, get into BIOS and make sure everything related to Link speeds is on Gen1. Disable the 2 virtualisation settings. Enable above 4G encoding.
3.) Boot.
4.) Shut down.
5.) Plug in ONE single Vega.
6.) Start up, install recent AMD drivers (ONLY drivers!).
7.) Reboot, check if everything works.
8.) Shut down.
9.) Plug in all the other cards. I just had the riser disconnected for convenience.
10.) Reboot, open Device Manager and wait until every card is installed and no triangles or unknown devices are shown.
11.) DONT REBOOT! Apply the AMD-Compute-n-Stability-Script_v2.0 (Both parts, read the readme.)
12.) Only after this is done reboot.

Everything should work fine now.

Regards