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September 12, 2011, 08:39:54 PM
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Celebrating the achievements of African American's is "holding back society"? In what way? Is it because you don't want people to realize that blacks have a history & heritage well beyond being entertainment in your sporting events?
I see achievements humans make, I try not to bring in things like where they were born or what color their skin is get in the way of that.

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September 12, 2011, 08:41:44 PM
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I clicked in to see who had posted this, so I could "ignore" them, and I see I had already ignored the OP.

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September 12, 2011, 08:42:25 PM
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It would be like only allowing white males to vote.

No it would not be. Nobody is barring non-white people from Bitcoin. There is no oppression. There is no far-right neo-nazi agenda. It's just a matter of culture. African-Americans predominantly don't have an interest in open-source P2P currency projects. Society is not going to crumble into a Caucasian-driven tyranny because of this. Cultures may change, adapt, stagnate and so forth but nobody is going to be "oppressed" because of predominate interests among them.
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September 12, 2011, 08:43:01 PM
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Celebrating the achievements of African American's is "holding back society"? In what way? Is it because you don't want people to realize that blacks have a history & heritage well beyond being entertainment in your sporting events?
I see achievements humans make, I try not to bring in things like where they were born or what color their skin is get in the way of that.

Yay progress Smiley

While I think this is the ultimate end-goal, I think it's far too early to believe that society as a whole will do the same thing. If people want to celebrate their cultural heritage, I see no problem with it.
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September 12, 2011, 08:47:02 PM
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Ah, here comes the ever clear headed thread starter ignoring thoughts on the topic and pushing through with the separatism
What I'm asking: In the future when bitcoin is in everyday use (and each coin is therefore massively valuable), the early adopters holding lots of currency are going to wield tremendous power in society. Would the lack of diversity amongst this group not be dangerous for wider society? It would be like only allowing white males to vote.
Lack of diversity regarding colors of peoples skin and/or what country they were born in is obviously not an issue with Bitcoin, as it is a worldwide thing.    But I am going to go ahead and assume with how racist you seem so far, you see "White People" from one side of world just the same as "White People" from another side, even though languages and history would dictate different.   

Or better yet, so no one is confused further with this thread, can you please define what you consider 'white people'?

Even if that definition is just 'anyone that isn't black or spanish', I am looking to find a gauge on how racist you are.

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September 12, 2011, 08:48:13 PM
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Ah, here comes the ever clear headed thread starter ignoring thoughts on the topic and pushing through with the separatism
What I'm asking: In the future when bitcoin is in everyday use (and each coin is therefore massively valuable), the early adopters holding lots of currency are going to wield tremendous power in society. Would the lack of diversity amongst this group not be dangerous for wider society? It would be like only allowing white males to vote.
Lack of diversity regarding colors of peoples skin and/or what country they were born in is obviously not an issue with Bitcoin, as it is a worldwide thing.    But I am going to go ahead and assume with how racist you seem so far, you see "White People" from one side of world just the same as "White People" from another side, even though languages and history would dictate different.  

Or better yet, so no one is confused further with this thread, can you please define what you consider 'white people'?

Even if that definition is just 'anyone that isn't black or spanish', I am looking to find a gauge on how racist you are.
Attacking the man's integrity and character isn't going to achieve much. I say we discuss his propositions rather than the man himself. At the absolute least, he has an interesting discussion to offer; contrary to my previous sentiments about this thread.
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September 12, 2011, 08:49:27 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=30.0

Few blacks doesn't mean only white. Just wanted to point it out. Also, while I am at it, the OP should ideally provide stronger evidence that there indeed are few black people here.
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September 12, 2011, 08:49:49 PM
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No it would not be. Nobody is barring non-white people from Bitcoin. There is no oppression. There is no far-right neo-nazi agenda. It's just a matter of culture. African-Americans predominantly don't have an interest in open-source P2P currency projects. Society is not going to crumble into a Caucasian-driven tyranny because of this. Cultures may change, adapt, stagnate and so forth but nobody is going to be "oppressed" because of predominate interests among them.
Historically for much of the time voting was not restricted to whites or males, just to landowners. It just so happened that almost all the landowners were white males.

A Bitcoin economy would be the same: The people with power would be the early adopters (that's us! woo!), who are overwhelmingly white and male.

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September 12, 2011, 08:51:19 PM
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When's white heritage month?  Roll Eyes
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September 12, 2011, 08:53:29 PM
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No it would not be. Nobody is barring non-white people from Bitcoin. There is no oppression. There is no far-right neo-nazi agenda. It's just a matter of culture. African-Americans predominantly don't have an interest in open-source P2P currency projects. Society is not going to crumble into a Caucasian-driven tyranny because of this. Cultures may change, adapt, stagnate and so forth but nobody is going to be "oppressed" because of predominate interests among them.
Historically for much of the time voting was not restricted to whites or males, just to landowners. It just so happened that almost all the landowners were white males.

A Bitcoin economy would be the same: The people with power would be the early adopters (that's us! woo!), who are overwhelmingly white and male.
Well, it also ended up landowners had the most at stake when it came to democratic decisions while non-land owners had nothing of relevance. Civil rights and such were a societal force of the day and legislation did not touch said issues. Frankly, I don't believe in a free vote. People with something at stake should be the only ones allowed to vote.

Anyways, I don't believe in an amount of wealth judging how much power a person has. It's the means that facilitate the power that is the real issue. Bitcoin can only be a liberating cause in that sense since there is no central issuing authority.  
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September 12, 2011, 08:54:56 PM
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When's white heritage month?  Roll Eyes
It begins with the international mens day
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September 12, 2011, 08:56:04 PM
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No it would not be. Nobody is barring non-white people from Bitcoin. There is no oppression. There is no far-right neo-nazi agenda. It's just a matter of culture. African-Americans predominantly don't have an interest in open-source P2P currency projects. Society is not going to crumble into a Caucasian-driven tyranny because of this. Cultures may change, adapt, stagnate and so forth but nobody is going to be "oppressed" because of predominate interests among them.
Historically for much of the time voting was not restricted to whites or males, just to landowners. It just so happened that almost all the landowners were white males.

A Bitcoin economy would be the same: The people with power would be the early adopters (that's us! woo!), who are overwhelmingly white and male.
Well, it also ended up landowners had the most at stake when it came to democratic decisions while non-land owners had nothing of relevance. Civil rights and such were a societal force of the day and legislation did not touch said issues.

Anyways, I don't believe in an amount of wealth judging how much a person has. It's the means that facilitate that is the real issue. Bitcoin can only be a liberating cause in that sense since there is no central issuing authority.  

Poors: fuck em'

I think that's what the OP is getting to.

(Not saying that's what you said - just pointing out that this type of thought (as you pointed out) disproportionately negatively affects blacks over whites)
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September 12, 2011, 09:00:04 PM
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While I think this is the ultimate end-goal, I think it's far too early to believe that society as a whole will do the same thing. If people want to celebrate their cultural heritage, I see no problem with it.
There is a big difference between cultural heritage, race, color of skin, etc.   Sadly, not a big enough difference, but, a difference there.

Attacking the man's integrity and character isn't going to achieve much. I say we discuss his propositions rather than the man himself. At the absolute least, he has an interesting discussion to offer; contrary to my previous sentiments about this thread.
Less of an attack and more of a clarification, I am not sure so much if this "discussion" is interesting so much as it is silly or based upon things that do not fully make sense.   If you were to have made the thread and chosen your words as carefully as you did, this would have all gone down differently.  But.. "Why Don't Black People Use Bitcoins?" and the thread opening how it did, well, I find this whole thing interesting but not for the right reasons I'm sure lol.


So far, if the original poster meant to say "poor people" and not "blacks" as I am reading in other posts, well shit, he is far more racist than I was thinking.

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September 12, 2011, 09:01:26 PM
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September 12, 2011, 09:02:57 PM
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At least I admitted I was bored and took the bait right away Smiley

I agree btw, just a troll, not as good as it could have been. I almost feel bad for replying and not seeing what other sort of replies it would have got Sad

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September 12, 2011, 09:11:10 PM
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How is bitcoin "white" only? It was invented by a Japanese, the russian subforum is the second largest, https://btcchina.com exchange is one of the biggest international ones, despite the fact that china is behind a "great firewall", there is this guy. Aaaand we have this: http://www.bitcoinmap.com
Obviously most people reside in first world countries, but pcs and mobile devices are widespread even in "3rd World" countries.
Everybody who has the will can contribute, there are no restrictions. And bitcoin, obviously, does not see "colour".

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September 12, 2011, 09:13:49 PM
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How is bitcoin "white" only? It was invented by a Japanese, the russian subforum is the second largest, https://btcchina.com exchange is one of the biggest international ones, despite the fact that china is behind a "great firewall", there is this guy. Aaaand we have this: http://www.bitcoinmap.com
Obviously most people reside in first world countries, but pcs and mobile devices are widespread even in "3rd World" countries.
Everybody who has the will can contribute, there are no restrictions. And bitcoin, obviously, does not see "colour".

bye

Both the coins and the smileys seem suspiciously yellow to me  Smiley
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September 12, 2011, 09:14:48 PM
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It's the same systemic bias lots of nerdy computer projects have. Please excuse the following potentially racist speculation: black people have more trouble acquiring the money, encouragement, and time to be a computer hobbyist. Bitcoin is still a luxury.

It's a problem. In fact, a group of people frequently abused by cops, voters, and regressive inflation taxes might have a lot to gain from Bitcoin. So what can we do to counter this bias?
A. Nothing. If/when Bitcoin goes mainstream, everyone will use it anyways.
B. Focus on projects which will benefit black people.
C. Inform blacks in your community about Bitcoin.
D. Donate Bitcoins or Bitcoin-related USD profits to black charities. That will get their attention! :-)

Probably more I didn't think of. The main benefit is of course that the internet is post-racial, and the efforts of racists here will inevitably fail. In not kept down, blacks will rise up.
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September 12, 2011, 09:16:08 PM
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you people have no idea what trolling is, do you? As soon as I actually stopped trolling on this forum, I am accused of it with every post. sigh.

I mean, I make a thread about literally printing the blockchain in a series of books and nobody bats an eye.  But you make one thread discussing the wider societal implications of the success of bitcoin... and suddenly everyone is crying out because of the nasty troll. Get a clue.

It's kindof predictable though: such decrying tactics are typical responses from those who are yet to confront their own privileges. They are simple deflections, to avoid and delegitimise awkward questions about equality and race...

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September 12, 2011, 09:18:15 PM
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It's the same systemic bias lots of nerdy computer projects have. Please excuse the following potentially racist speculation: black people have more trouble acquiring the money, encouragement, and time to be a computer hobbyist. Bitcoin is still a luxury.

It's a problem. In fact, a group of people frequently abused by cops, voters, and regressive inflation taxes might have a lot to gain from Bitcoin. So what can we do to counter this bias?
A. Nothing. If/when Bitcoin goes mainstream, everyone will use it anyways.
B. Focus on projects which will benefit black people.
C. Inform blacks in your community about Bitcoin.
D. Donate Bitcoins or Bitcoin-related USD profits to black charities. That will get their attention! :-)

Probably more I didn't think of. The main benefit is of course that the internet is post-racial, and the efforts of racists here will inevitably fail. In not kept down, blacks will rise up.
Thanks for this response, it was the sort of thing I was expecting: More people with a positive attitude towards improving the situation, rather than just flat-out denying a problem exists

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