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February 02, 2014, 04:41:56 AM
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26 out of the first 40 "Recent Updated Topics" right now are about alt-coins.

I 'm not saying that the alt coin section should be killed but it's definetaly getting harder and harder to read something about bitcoin in this forum.
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February 02, 2014, 08:31:31 AM
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26 out of the first 40 "Recent Updated Topics" right now are about alt-coins.

I 'm not saying that the alt coin section should be killed but it's definetaly getting harder and harder to read something about bitcoin in this forum.

yep and in almost every single alt thread, its a newbie/sock puppet account spamming to keep their coin thread popular/on the first page.

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February 02, 2014, 10:42:56 AM
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26 out of the first 40 "Recent Updated Topics" right now are about alt-coins.

I 'm not saying that the alt coin section should be killed but it's definetaly getting harder and harder to read something about bitcoin in this forum.

You can ignore the board in your preferences.

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February 02, 2014, 11:08:06 AM
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26 out of the first 40 "Recent Updated Topics" right now are about alt-coins.

I 'm not saying that the alt coin section should be killed but it's definetaly getting harder and harder to read something about bitcoin in this forum.

You can ignore the board in your preferences.

or we could remove it an elimate the scammers easy buck...

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February 02, 2014, 11:13:33 AM
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26 out of the first 40 "Recent Updated Topics" right now are about alt-coins.

I 'm not saying that the alt coin section should be killed but it's definetaly getting harder and harder to read something about bitcoin in this forum.

You can ignore the board in your preferences.

or we could remove it an elimate the scammers easy buck...

I doubt that will eliminate scammers. There's always gonna be scammers as long as there's greedy gullible people.

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February 02, 2014, 11:25:15 AM
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26 out of the first 40 "Recent Updated Topics" right now are about alt-coins.

I 'm not saying that the alt coin section should be killed but it's definetaly getting harder and harder to read something about bitcoin in this forum.

You can ignore the board in your preferences.

or we could remove it an elimate the scammers easy buck...

I doubt that will eliminate scammers. There's always gonna be scammers as long as there's greedy gullible people.

but eliminating the alt coin board takes one of the scammers main revenue generators away(alt coin pump and dumps)

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February 02, 2014, 11:39:31 AM
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26 out of the first 40 "Recent Updated Topics" right now are about alt-coins.

I 'm not saying that the alt coin section should be killed but it's definetaly getting harder and harder to read something about bitcoin in this forum.

You can ignore the board in your preferences.

As i said i don't want for the alt section to be killed altogether. I 'm looking mostly for measures like the giveaway ban, to shift the main focus of this forum back to bitcoin.

But then again you are a prime dice signature spammer so you don't really care about what i said. You just want to make yet another useless post.
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February 02, 2014, 11:40:50 AM
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26 out of the first 40 "Recent Updated Topics" right now are about alt-coins.

I 'm not saying that the alt coin section should be killed but it's definetaly getting harder and harder to read something about bitcoin in this forum.

You can ignore the board in your preferences.

As i said i don't want for the alt section to be killed altogether. I 'm looking mostly for measures like the giveaway ban, to shift the main focus of this forum back to bitcoin.

But then again you are a prime dice signature spammer so you don't really care about what i said. You just want to make yet another useless post.
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February 02, 2014, 01:10:44 PM
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26 out of the first 40 "Recent Updated Topics" right now are about alt-coins.

I 'm not saying that the alt coin section should be killed but it's definetaly getting harder and harder to read something about bitcoin in this forum.

You can ignore the board in your preferences.

As i said i don't want for the alt section to be killed altogether. I 'm looking mostly for measures like the giveaway ban, to shift the main focus of this forum back to bitcoin.

But then again you are a prime dice signature spammer so you don't really care about what i said. You just want to make yet another useless post.

I don't see how what I said constitutes as spam, you're just being petty. I also don't understand how the alt coin section makes it harder for you to read about Bitcoin.

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February 02, 2014, 01:34:12 PM
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26 out of the first 40 "Recent Updated Topics" right now are about alt-coins.

I 'm not saying that the alt coin section should be killed but it's definetaly getting harder and harder to read something about bitcoin in this forum.

You can ignore the board in your preferences.

As i said i don't want for the alt section to be killed altogether. I 'm looking mostly for measures like the giveaway ban, to shift the main focus of this forum back to bitcoin.

But then again you are a prime dice signature spammer so you don't really care about what i said. You just want to make yet another useless post.

I don't see how what I said constitutes as spam, you're just being petty. I also don't understand how the alt coin section makes it harder for you to read about Bitcoin.
The altcoin section has served its purpose my friend. its no longer about about innovation, instead it just serves as a place for scammers to present their business models to unsuspecting crypto noobies, leaving them holding the bag on yet another clonecoin. this point is irrefutable.

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February 02, 2014, 01:53:09 PM
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26 out of the first 40 "Recent Updated Topics" right now are about alt-coins.

I 'm not saying that the alt coin section should be killed but it's definetaly getting harder and harder to read something about bitcoin in this forum.

You can ignore the board in your preferences.

As i said i don't want for the alt section to be killed altogether. I 'm looking mostly for measures like the giveaway ban, to shift the main focus of this forum back to bitcoin.

But then again you are a prime dice signature spammer so you don't really care about what i said. You just want to make yet another useless post.

I don't see how what I said constitutes as spam, you're just being petty. I also don't understand how the alt coin section makes it harder for you to read about Bitcoin.
The altcoin section has served its purpose my friend. its no longer about about innovation, instead it just serves as a place for scammers to present their business models to unsuspecting crypto noobies, leaving them holding the bag on yet another clonecoin. this point is irrefutable.

Whilst I agree that 99% of these alts serve no purpose other than get rich quick schemes for the devs, closing the section wont eliminate them but simply just move them on to somewhere else, much like what has happened with the giveaway section. There's always going to be newbs who want to get in on the crytpo movement, so just let them have their toys to play with in their little playpen. Hopefully most users will quickly outgrown them and realise what a waste of time they are anyway.

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February 02, 2014, 02:20:28 PM
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Alt coin section of this forum can not be removed. EVER. So you can close this thread.
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February 02, 2014, 02:23:07 PM
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Alt coin section of this forum can not be removed. EVER. So you can close this thread.

Sure it can

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mv altcoin/* /dev/null

Whether it should is another question.

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February 02, 2014, 02:33:59 PM
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Alt coin section of this forum can not be removed. EVER. So you can close this thread.

Sure it can

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mv altcoin/* /dev/null

Whether it should is another question.

Is it even a question at this point?

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February 02, 2014, 03:30:12 PM
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In my eyes this clash of bitcoin elitists and ignorant altcoin supporters is really counter productive.

A couple of non drastical solutions:

* remove altcoin related forums from "Recent posts" section (I really can't understand why would anyone use it in a huge forum like this)
* disable color/text size BBCode in the signatures (that would be a huge relief for all the eyes reading these forums)
* add a couple of new subsections in altcoin section
* add a couple mods dedicated to altcoin section
* coin review before allowing an ANN thread (complicated, too many variables, no one will want to do that)
* developer has to send an altcoin application-description with strict requirements before creating an ANN thread (less complicated, but with current attitude no one will want to review those too)
* strict requirements for an ANN thread
* instead of removing alts (if it will ever come to this), just move alts to the different forum (http://alts.bitcointalk.org), could be quite a bit of work, but I think satisfy both sides.

Still, scammers gonna scam and noobies gonna noob. Is there a tutorial on what to look out for in a new cryto currency? There should be one. And sticky.
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February 02, 2014, 04:59:08 PM
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In my eyes this clash of bitcoin elitists and ignorant altcoin supporters is really counter productive.

A couple of non drastical solutions:

* remove altcoin related forums from "Recent posts" section (I really can't understand why would anyone use it in a huge forum like this)
* disable color/text size BBCode in the signatures (that would be a huge relief for all the eyes reading these forums)
* add a couple of new subsections in altcoin section
* add a couple mods dedicated to altcoin section
* coin review before allowing an ANN thread (complicated, too many variables, no one will want to do that)
* developer has to send an altcoin application-description with strict requirements before creating an ANN thread (less complicated, but with current attitude no one will want to review those too)
* strict requirements for an ANN thread
* instead of removing alts (if it will ever come to this), just move alts to the different forum (http://alts.bitcointalk.org), could be quite a bit of work, but I think satisfy both sides.

Still, scammers gonna scam and noobies gonna noob. Is there a tutorial on what to look out for in a new cryto currency? There should be one. And sticky.

* Lack of infrastructure to change the Recent posts to not shown (Hopefully will be in the forum revamp)

* Another thing we are discussing, although you can disable signatures personally if they annoy you

* I highly doubt there will be new subsection, Theymos added them so it would be easier for me to moderate, not because he cares that there are subsections there.

Most of what you were proposing is actually spot on. The one main difference is, the Alt Coin section serves a purpose. Its not so people can spam posts or create hundreds of announcement threads and coins, because as long as they aren't actually spamming, we don't care. Its intended purpose was to keep people from posting alt coin stuff in the rest of the forum. Its not because we wanted Alt Coin traffic here, we just knew there would be some so by creating the section, we could isolate it from the rest of the forum (hopefully). The goal is for people to post their announcements/important notices here for the traffic, and then lead people to their own place, or their own forums where they can discuss all they like.

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February 03, 2014, 02:19:33 AM
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It pretty funny that the heavy traffic is stuffed into one subforum and the management refuses to create sub forums or a system of organizing the information. Bitcointalk.org OWES the community to ban altcoin discussion here and let someone else take over and do it right. As it was stated before in this thread, the resources and interest are not here to support altcoins the way they need to be supported.
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February 03, 2014, 05:58:02 AM
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This Alt Sub Forum has out lived its usefulness and needs to go.

Just look at the seriously unappreciative threads trashing Theymos and BCT for banning "Give Away" threads.

Hint:They want Alt coin people to go elsewhere!

It's time for Theymos to give them the nudge out the door by shutting down this section.


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I would have to agree if it wasn't for your scammy signature.  Roll Eyes
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February 03, 2014, 10:18:05 AM
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It pretty funny that the heavy traffic is stuffed into one subforum and the management refuses to create sub forums or a system of organizing the information. Bitcointalk.org OWES the community to ban altcoin discussion here and let someone else take over and do it right. As it was stated before in this thread, the resources and interest are not here to support altcoins the way they need to be supported.

I'm sure the alt-coin community will re-organise itself somewhere else eventually, but I agree it probably would be better being all or nothing. If we can have subforums for mining and a marketplace then I don't see the harm in having a giveaway section too, but doesn’t look like the powers that be will change their mind on this regardless.

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February 03, 2014, 11:31:51 AM
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It pretty funny that the heavy traffic is stuffed into one subforum and the management refuses to create sub forums or a system of organizing the information. Bitcointalk.org OWES the community to ban altcoin discussion here and let someone else take over and do it right. As it was stated before in this thread, the resources and interest are not here to support altcoins the way they need to be supported.

I'm sure the alt-coin community will re-organise itself somewhere else eventually, but I agree it probably would be better being all or nothing. If we can have subforums for mining and a marketplace then I don't see the harm in having a giveaway section too, but doesn’t look like the powers that be will change their mind on this regardless.

you have 84 activity and almost 5000 posts. thats fucking ridiculous.

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