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June 08, 2018, 08:29:10 PM
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The list doesn't need to include every facet of the services you may or may not provide. Things like timezones etc can go in your own threads with further details etc.

I think you should consider adding Sylon manager to your list.
He manages a lot of campaigns, if you check his post history, you can see he everything works very up-to-date and answering all question to his participants.
Lol, seriously? He is probably one of the worst bounty managers on Bitcointalk. He even received negative trust because he accepts many scammers into his campaigns. Do you really think that Sylon deserves to be among best signature campaign managers?

Was just going to say the same thing. This is an anti-spam list and Sylon is one of the worst managers on the forum for spam in my opinion. Sylon accepts and pays for anyone as long as you make the minimum amount of spam. The amount of farmers and copy and pasters on his campaigns is ridiculous and multiple users are banned every day from campaigns he's running so staff end up doing his job for him which is incredibly annoying. There's also the infamous list of 200 Russian farmers that he was paying the majority of which alone should disqualify him from this list. Maybe when he starts doing his job properly he could be reconsidered, but at the moment he seems content with just collecting a paycheck for posting bounty Ann threads and paying the shitposters that hit the minimum quota.

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June 08, 2018, 08:49:54 PM
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Idk, I just find that he serious manage his threads. I mean if you ask him something, or you want to change address he will do it and give you an answer.
If you check almost any of bounty thread you can find an only mess and if you have any doubts, you will not get an answer.
Manager - means the person who controls all happenings within the project.
That's what campaign managers should do and that's what they are hired for. Its funny how Sylon checks all this but doesn't the main thing he his supposed to do: Check if participants are spamming or not.

Okay, my bad. I did not check posts of his participants. I never even participated in his signature campaigns, only few Twitter campaigns. I'm just putting out what I noticed. He controls his bounty threads.



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June 15, 2018, 12:27:15 PM
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The list doesn't need to include every facet of the services you may or may not provide. Things like timezones etc can go in your own threads with further details etc.
It would be great but not every manager is willing to have their own ANN thread for God knows why reasons.
Was just going to say the same thing. This is an anti-spam list and Sylon is one of the worst managers on the forum for spam in my opinion. Sylon accepts and pays for anyone as long as you make the minimum amount of spam. The amount of farmers and copy and pasters on his campaigns is ridiculous and multiple users are banned every day from campaigns he's running so staff end up doing his job for him which is incredibly annoying. There's also the infamous list of 200 Russian farmers that he was paying the majority of which alone should disqualify him from this list. Maybe when he starts doing his job properly he could be reconsidered, but at the moment he seems content with just collecting a paycheck for posting bounty Ann threads and paying the shitposters that hit the minimum quota.
Now that the point about sylon is cleared, I have mixed opinions on a few managers, what do you all think:
Julerz12, legendster, goinmerry.

I contacted aventhe, decoded, edwardard and they didn't reply any info so they aren't on the list.

Blockfolio and wapinter would no longer be on the waiting list due to obvious reasons.

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June 17, 2018, 01:10:16 AM
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The list doesn't need to include every facet of the services you may or may not provide. Things like timezones etc can go in your own threads with further details etc.
It would be great but not every manager is willing to have their own ANN thread for God knows why reasons.
Was just going to say the same thing. This is an anti-spam list and Sylon is one of the worst managers on the forum for spam in my opinion. Sylon accepts and pays for anyone as long as you make the minimum amount of spam. The amount of farmers and copy and pasters on his campaigns is ridiculous and multiple users are banned every day from campaigns he's running so staff end up doing his job for him which is incredibly annoying. There's also the infamous list of 200 Russian farmers that he was paying the majority of which alone should disqualify him from this list. Maybe when he starts doing his job properly he could be reconsidered, but at the moment he seems content with just collecting a paycheck for posting bounty Ann threads and paying the shitposters that hit the minimum quota.
Now that the point about sylon is cleared, I have mixed opinions on a few managers, what do you all think:
Julerz12, legendster, goinmerry.

I contacted aventhe, decoded, edwardard and they didn't reply any info so they aren't on the list.

Blockfolio and wapinter would no longer be on the waiting list due to obvious reasons.
I'm not sure about legendster and julerz12 but speaking of gionmerry he doesn't really deserve to be on this list. Don't want to be rude but I actually did a lit bit of research on few of the campaigns managed by him but targetted one campaign particularly.

Campaign link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3367664.msg35280159#msg35280159

Description: If you see the spreadsheet he has accepted many users who just spamming and regardless of their posts they still continue to receive stakes for the week.
Example :
User 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=587721;sa=showPosts
User 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=500899;sa=showPosts

Based on this he doesn't qualify to make it to the list as he does support spam from the above proof.
But again this isn't my thread the ultimate decision is on you

If you want I can do research on other two managers as well, just let me know if it's needed Grin,
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June 21, 2018, 03:32:50 PM
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I'm not sure about legendster and julerz12 but speaking of gionmerry he doesn't really deserve to be on this list. Don't want to be rude but I actually did a lit bit of research on few of the campaigns managed by him but targetted one campaign particularly.

Campaign link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3367664.msg35280159#msg35280159

Description: If you see the spreadsheet he has accepted many users who just spamming and regardless of their posts they still continue to receive stakes for the week.
Example :
User 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=587721;sa=showPosts
User 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=500899;sa=showPosts

Based on this he doesn't qualify to make it to the list as he does support spam from the above proof.
But again this isn't my thread the ultimate decision is on you

If you want I can do research on other two managers as well, just let me know if it's needed Grin,
Which is why I am having mixed feelings. I am not going to add these users in the near future, because they lack experience or have had bad experiences.
I'll be sending a PM to the campaign managers asking for a signed message, had a busy couple of weeks, so do pardon me for that.
I'll also be updating the OP, with few details to change.

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June 26, 2018, 02:46:25 PM
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Removed the amount escrowed column until the managers send me a signed message for verification purposes. And with the related proof, obviously.

Come on people, hire these managers to handle your signature campaigns. I am sure they would work out for the best keeping everybody in picture.
Advertisement space is for rent. PM me and start negotiating Smiley Do note that I won't advertise scams.

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June 26, 2018, 04:28:54 PM
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What about Joel_Jatsen? I’m not sure if he still actively manages signature campaigns up to this day but I once participated in a campaign managed by him. He strongly advocates his policy for zero tolerance towards spamming. In one of his campaign rules, he has stated that he won’t count the posts that has redundantly repeated what has been said by the previous 100 replies so he really makes it a point that the participants do not spam. Also, I did not encounter any problems throughout the duration of the campaign and all payments were promptly made.
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June 26, 2018, 11:05:17 PM
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What about Joel_Jatsen? I’m not sure if he still actively manages signature campaigns up to this day but I once participated in a campaign managed by him. He strongly advocates his policy for zero tolerance towards spamming. In one of his campaign rules, he has stated that he won’t count the posts that has redundantly repeated what has been said by the previous 100 replies so he really makes it a point that the participants do not spam. Also, I did not encounter any problems throughout the duration of the campaign and all payments were promptly made.
Hmm...  I think he is a good manager, I saw the campaign and the spreadsheet, looks decent enough for me. I would have to think about it, and I will mostly add him, unless someone convinces me to do otherwise with strong proof. I would also have to check if he is still into campaign management.  Smiley

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June 26, 2018, 11:13:00 PM
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Might I suggest that instead of having the "ANN" column be either Here or N/A, you could have it replaced with full-block characters? (██)
Here's a sample:



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If not, then perhaps bolding "Here" and/or making it all-caps can have it stand out more.

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June 26, 2018, 11:19:34 PM
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Might I suggest that instead of having the "ANN" column be either Here or N/A, you could have it replaced with full-block characters? (██)
*color optional.
If not, then perhaps bolding "Here" and/or making it all-caps can have it stand out more.
I think what user shahzadafzal suggested(via PM) would make a better look, I am talking about this:
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I would just replace the telegram logo with the official one. But I am here for opinions. Which one is better? Smiley

   

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What about Joel_Jatsen? I’m not sure if he still actively manages signature campaigns up to this day but I once participated in a campaign managed by him. He strongly advocates his policy for zero tolerance towards spamming. In one of his campaign rules, he has stated that he won’t count the posts that has redundantly repeated what has been said by the previous 100 replies so he really makes it a point that the participants do not spam. Also, I did not encounter any problems throughout the duration of the campaign and all payments were promptly made.
Hmm...  I think he is a good manager, I saw the campaign and the spreadsheet, looks decent enough for me. I would have to think about it, and I will mostly add him, unless someone convinces me to do otherwise with strong proof. I would also have to check if he is still into campaign management.  Smiley
Thanks for the heads up! Yes I have managed campaigns in the past and have hold reasonable amount of money as escrow for the campaigns. However, I'm too busy these days to do campaign management stuff so I wouldn't like to be added on the list just yet.Anyway, thanks for your words of support.

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June 27, 2018, 02:36:16 PM
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Thanks for the heads up! Yes I have managed campaigns in the past and have hold reasonable amount of money as escrow for the campaigns. However, I'm too busy these days to do campaign management stuff so I wouldn't like to be added on the list just yet.Anyway, thanks for your words of support.
Oh, it is alright. Lemme know when you pop back into campaign management.

So I added the images to the OP, and here is how it looks:



Should I go for it?
Campaign managers, those who don't have an ANN thread, please do create one. It is for your own benefit. Smiley

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June 27, 2018, 02:37:52 PM
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May be you need a png image for telegram icon.
How about this: https://i.imgur.com/EPR3Ptv.png


Resize tips are here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4519248.msg40997114#msg40997114

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[Image SNIP]

Should I go for it?
I guess adding the word "Signature campaign" in the Past work  column is not necessary, it will only make the whole table wider once added and also since this thread is only for Signature campaign so its understandable. What do you think?


Using with a transparent background for telegram icon will work. And also an envelope icon is much better for the email link in the contact column instead of the first one.

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I wanted that image, thanks. Grin
Here is how it looks:


Am I the only one who finds the telegram logo too bright?
I guess adding the word "Signature campaign" in the Past work  column is not necessary, it will only make the whole table wider once added and also since this thread is only for Signature campaign so its understandable. What do you think?
I will remove it.  Smiley

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Am I the only one who finds the telegram logo too bright?
It is. Try with this


For email:


For PM:

It's a totally new one although.

Web:


Anyway the idea is to have all the icons black.


Also, like bL4nkcode said: We do not need the past work column. It makes the whole table annoying. All these details should be in the ANN thread and if a campaign manager does not have a ANN then they may possibly lose potential customer. It's their fault however, a customer always can contact using the contact details though. By the way, no offence to those who do not have an ANN  Smiley . It's a friendly feedback only. I am sure pugman has better things in mind if not the same.

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Anyway the idea is to have all the icons black.
Hm... I figured it would be better to use the ones available on SMF as a default:


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Hm... I figured it would be better to use the ones available on SMF as a default:
The defaults look completely ok but problem seems the Telegram one. So, I had that thought.

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June 27, 2018, 11:51:42 PM
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Hm... I figured it would be better to use the ones available on SMF as a default:
The defaults look completely ok but problem seems the Telegram one. So, I had that thought.



This one's less straining.

Comparison: (Old/New)


Plus, it actually looks like the Telegram logo I have.

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June 28, 2018, 01:51:05 PM
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There's a lot of legendary campaign manager that has good review these past few months and now they have red mark all over due to an unsuccessful project, they should at least be strict on the next project they will take and explain things carefully to those bounty hunters who do not receive awards from certain projects.

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