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September 23, 2011, 03:43:33 PM
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Did anyone contact the immigration and customs enforcement? Stealing bitcoins etc is a pretty arbitrary crime because the value is arbitrary and I doubt any agency would commit resources to tracking down BTC thiefs but people scamming other people by impersonating a federal officer is known territory to them.

Hmm, I guess one could draw a line between putting up a fake ICE seizure, and impersonating a federal officer/agency.


It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

If I go to moonco.in I am greeted with a certificate digitally signed by the ICE. If that's not impersonation I don't know what is.
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September 23, 2011, 03:56:43 PM
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http://solidcoin.info/market.php

Someone is selling Christian Verdun art...

Traceroute paradox.rambisyouth.com goes to  apache2-moon.beijing.dreamhost.com [69.163.194.64]
Edit: seems a lot of dreamhost domains have that apache2-moon path ;-)

Maybe useful:
http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x45D09545F1218E9F
https://checkout.google.com/reviews/merchant/endUserReviews?sellerId=277296763527281

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September 23, 2011, 04:05:13 PM
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Someone is selling Christian Verdun art...
Yes, he's paradoxart on reddit too selling his art. There's a couple of moonco.in related posts too.
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September 23, 2011, 04:57:55 PM
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I found Christian Verdun's email address here: https://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=56425896494&topic=20350&post=100266

(gotta love facebook!)

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September 23, 2011, 05:10:45 PM
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If that guy is Moon, and if he still goes to school at the .edu address, I imagine he'd have a harder time graduating if the school administration was informed of his potentially 'fraudulent' activities (probably something against the CoC). Infact, if it is the same guy, that same guy might be willing to trade all the BTC he stole for his college degree. It might be a way for him to get out of this without any (if any?) criminal charges.

I don't know if that'd be considered blackmail. But hell, i'm not a lawyer, just thinking out loud.

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September 23, 2011, 07:05:07 PM
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I have followed some coins...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=38453.msg471531#msg471531

sV6xrL4YCV75jaRfbdnaH6WLhhn1FBY3Px

http://blockexplorer.sytes.net/address/sV6xrL4YCV75jaRfbdnaH6WLhhn1FBY3Px
http://blockexplorer.sytes.net/tx/2e8386160e28ae7f06fee9a0a629a6328477fa15aff9dde1d18f3816318a1f1d#i1

0.5 SC to mooncoin donation address... Could be just a donation, or not...

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The second part of that transaction above goes to another address, and then additionally 100 in 1 transaction to the moincoin address.
http://blockexplorer.sytes.net/tx/57eee5a9309638ef3ef4f7c1a1e44b444befe4a3f3d5196983a18ced5bbf3618#i0

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:kuP7BpRj_H8J:https://moonco.in/bet/389/view+sckHNgUp87mpi1SRZNQWmRK6rjqbbGb2EK&cd=1&hl=de&ct=clnk&gl=de

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September 23, 2011, 08:56:54 PM
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Following up to my last post. Christian Verdun lurked in irc as 'upisdown' in #bitcoin-otc. His OTC rating is here. Doing a '/msg nickserv info upisdown' on Freenode I get:
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NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Information on upisdown (account upisdown):
NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Registered : Jun 20 16:10:19 2011 (13 weeks, 3 days, 23:18:38 ago)
NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Last addr  : ~upisdown@c-24-7-158-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net
NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Last seen  : Jun 22 15:20:33 2011 (13 weeks, 2 days, 00:08:24 ago)
NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Flags      : HideMail
NickServ(NickServ@services.)- *** End of Info ***
That IP address is the same as the IP address that was Mr Moon's moonco.in server, and the IP address Moon lurked in #namecoin, and posted to forums and email. Could it be a university shared IP and they were both behind the same NAT or something?
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NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Information on mr_moon (account mr_moon):
NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Registered : Jun 22 15:26:07 2011 (13 weeks, 2 days, 00:09:24 ago)
NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Last addr  : ~mrmoon@c-24-7-158-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net
NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Last seen  : Sep 01 20:00:32 2011 (3 weeks, 0 days, 19:34:59 ago)
NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Flags      : HideMail
NickServ(NickServ@services.)- *** End of Info ***

I just checked this in the db. The (dynamic [DHCP assigned, though it hasn't changed in a bit]) address registered to that host at that time is not a shared area or enforced NAT. It's a residential home addr   ess.

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Edit: seems a lot of dreamhost domains have that apache2-moon path ;-)

moon.dreamhost.com is a coincidentally named dreamhost shared hosting server, there are a few thousand accounts on it. Ignore this trail. Misleading.

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September 24, 2011, 01:47:52 AM
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I checked through #solidcoin logs, this guy certainly did talk to me about his art pages. Strangely? Him and mrmoon are on at the same time here.

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[23:17] <mr_moon> Solidcoin poker @ https://moonco.in/tables/solidcoin
[23:17] * leftisright (~admin@209.237.253.79) has joined #solidcoin
[23:18] <leftisright> @ is selling art prints for solidcoins. http://paradox.rambisyouth.com
[23:19] * leftisright is now known as 92AAD5SJR
[23:27] <92AAD5SJR> my nick changed
[23:33] <mr_moon> doublec runs bitparking
[23:35] <92AAD5SJR> Does that make you a sucker?
[23:36] <mr_moon> Looking to buy solidcoins above market value @ https://moonco.in/exchange/solidcoin
[23:36] <EskimoBob> here wwe go, someone got mad and dumping it
[23:36] <kish> RealSolid, you must have a lot of coins
[23:37] <mr_moon> Why must he?
[23:37] <@RealSolid> i wish i did
[23:37] <@RealSolid> i only have 0.6GH of mining power

And our private chat

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Session Start: Fri Aug 26 10:15:56 2011
Session Ident: leftisright
[10:15] Session Ident: leftisright (freenode, RealSolid) (~admin@209.237.253.79)
[10:15] <leftisright> Hey I wanted to get listed on solidcoin.info. I'm a merchant who sells art prints for solidcoins
01[10:16] <RealSolid> ok
[10:16] <leftisright> http://paradox.rambisyouth.com
01[10:16] <RealSolid> i just woke up but give me the details
[10:16] <leftisright> Ok, take your time I'm not in a rush
[11:04] <leftisright> So did it get up there?
[11:06] <leftisright> and do I get a bounty?
01[11:08] <RealSolid> yep
01[11:09] <RealSolid> could you provide more notice of solidcoins though
01[11:09] <RealSolid> perhaps use the logo or something something
01[11:09] <RealSolid> -somewhere
[11:24] <leftisright> Certainly
[11:24] <leftisright> Do you have any uploaded anywhere?
01[11:24] <RealSolid> the website has a PNG with transparency you can use
01[11:24] <RealSolid> its on the bounties page
[11:25] <leftisright> Ok great, thanks.
[23:17] <leftisright> Hey we talked about obtaining a bounty for selling prints for solidcoins
01[23:17] <RealSolid> yep
[23:17] <leftisright> sUAY7SQrc8hEPcEGFVSCBr22ciB5ApUWUc
[23:17] <leftisright> here is my address
[23:18] <leftisright> I will update the image today
[23:18] <leftisright> Gonna advertise in the channel too
01[23:18] <RealSolid> ok
01[23:18] <RealSolid> thanks for supporting solidcoin
01[23:19] <RealSolid> sent
Session Time: Sat Aug 27 00:00:00 2011
Session Close: Sat Aug 27 12:36:50 2011

Hope it helps.

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September 27, 2011, 07:59:19 AM
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I have used the site like many others here but I have no involvement in it. Please stop harassing me and making threats of physical violence. The "evidence" provided so far does not prove my involvement and if it did you should take this information to the police not threaten me.

Every internet connection I use is shared internet. In my apartment/dorm (It's included in the rent, like our water), on campus and at coffee shops. I'm not a skilled programmer (not unless you count html/css) and I spend all my time studying plant science and working on art and selling it. To me it is a rather odd accusation that I have been operating a gambling site exchange, since I have spent the summer doing field research to cover my internship credit.

In fact, the above post shows that I was logged in at the same time as the accused scammer at the same time with a different IP address. Having the same IP address at one point in time is not as good of evidence as having different IP addresses at the same time that we are not the same person.

If you are still convinced it is me, I encourage you to use legal channels because I'm not guilty and have nothing to hide from the police.

Full disclosure regarding my connection: I did use mooncoin to bet on games and play poker. I was initially interested after it was posted on reddit because it was open source (I generally support open source software, which is what originally interested me in Bitcoin, its a common theme in my art). I lost some Bitcoin I made selling prints. I did have online conversations with MrMoon when the site was just a poker site, he was at the tables often and seemed nice.

I have sold art work for Bitcoins, a fair amount, and I believe everyone of my customers has only positive feedback.


 

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September 27, 2011, 11:43:52 PM
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An IP Address that Mr Moon used was 24.7.158.162. This list of wikipedia pages edited by this IP address are here. This list includes namecoin related edits. It also includes edits to Christian Verdun and a disambiguation page for 'Paradox', an art piece by Christian Verdun. There are a lot of edits associated with that. Christian Verdun sells artwork for bitcoins and solid coins here. Maybe Mr Moon knows him? Or he knows Mr Moon? Christian goes to UC Davis, not far from Sacramento where Mr Moon's IP address is geolocated.

Christian Verdun appears to be upisdown on the bitcointalk forums here. He has posted as being a user of moonco.in.

Mr Moon's Wikipedia page edits include plant related pages, a topic that Christian indicates as being interested in studying at UC Davis in this interview.

Christian/Uptown, if you read this, have you had any contact with Mr Moon since the closing of his site?

LOL an edit to a page on money laundering that is ironic

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September 27, 2011, 11:58:16 PM
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I doubt he will be back as Mr Moon, maybe Mr Sun or Mr Stars.  If he is willing to resolve the mess, he would be out already rather remain hidden
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September 28, 2011, 12:27:43 AM
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I dropped a polite email to the UC Davis police department that someone attending their university may have committed a whole lot of wire fraud.

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September 28, 2011, 01:49:22 AM
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Edit: The above post shows me logged into irc at the same time as mr_moon but with a different ip. We are clearly different people, this should be enough lay to rest any claims that I am mr_moon.

Based on just that? No, not clearly; it would be easy to run two clients side by side with one of them connecting thru proxy, or two machines and different internet conenctions (there are even cellphones with IRC clients nowadays). I'm not saying anything about the accusations, i'm just saying that different IPs in IRC (or many other systems) doesn't mean much.

(I dont always get new reply notifications, pls send a pm when you think it has happened)

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September 28, 2011, 02:22:19 AM
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Deadends?

http://pokerprolabs.com/mooncoin/pokerstars.aspx

http://www.bankrollmob.com/forum.asp?mode=thread&id=183182

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Hi all, i see there is little interest so far from BRM members to play and there is not much chamce for the few interested to get a regular game going,so,if you wish you can join my game which i ran last night with 10 players,not bad for first game.
We are running it every wednesday night at 8.00 WET on a league format, $2 to enter.

club name;Mooncoin poker league
club id ;49147
invitation ;mooncoin

your all welcome to join but if you join and dont play for 3 weeks i will delete you as im expecting this to grow to maximum of 30 REGULAR players.
please leave your BRM name so i will know who you are or I wont accept you!

Read more: http://www.bankrollmob.com/forum.asp?mode=thread&id=183182#ixzz1ZD7JRF3j
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September 28, 2011, 06:21:13 AM
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Edit: The above post shows me logged into irc at the same time as mr_moon but with a different ip. We are clearly different people, this should be enough lay to rest any claims that I am mr_moon.
Interestingly that 'different ip' (209.237.253.79) is very similar to the ip used by mr_moon when he briefly appeared to post his 'pastebin' link claiming the exchange was hacked:
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[11:58] * [1]mm (~mm@209.237.253.55) has joined #solidcoin
[11:58] <TimothyA> ... and then they'll do what?
[11:58] <Ten98> since it's over 10k
[11:58] <[1]mm> http://pastie.org/2544332
[11:58] <Ten98> arrest them?
[11:58] <TimothyA> cash the bribe checks?
[11:58] * [1]mm (~mm@209.237.253.55) has left #solidcoin

You say you don't know how to program but your github account links to a C++ project that lists you as a contributor.
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September 28, 2011, 10:30:54 AM
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I do have shared internet in my apartment/dorm (It's included in the rent, like our water), and I think its far more plausible someone else in Davis knows about bitcoins rather then me being some mastermind computer scammer. I also don't know how to program (not unless you count html/css) so that makes it a rather odd accusation, I study plant sciences (breeding) and do design work (I'm an artist).

Hey, whatever happened to the double major in computer science?

http://blogs.suntimes.com/shinyobjects/2009/05/5-questions-with-christian-verdun---how-did-he-create-his-lincoln-assassination-image.html

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I am from Ventura, Calif., which is a small town an hour or so north of Los Angeles. I grew up here and have always had a passion for art, although never intended and still do not intend to make a career out of it. However it is something that I enjoy doing and will most likely make more work in this style. I am actually going to school for science. I was just recently accepted to UC Davis for plant sciences and my current plan is to double major in plant and computer science, but I am also extremely interested in astrophysics.
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September 28, 2011, 11:37:46 AM
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I also don't know how to program (not unless you count html/css) so that makes it a rather odd accusation
For a non-programmer you post a few programming questions to ruby on rails lists.
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September 28, 2011, 01:07:50 PM
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I also don't know how to program (not unless you count html/css) so that makes it a rather odd accusation
For a non-programmer you post a few programming questions to ruby on rails lists.

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I have been trying to add a caption. I successfully made it display in
the admin portion but I cant figure out how to save the variable.
I would have suspected:
@product.images[0] = "thing"
in the product controller would save to the caption but it does not
work.
Any suggestions? I can post more code if necessary.

I can post more code if necessary, but it will be in HTML or CSS (is implied).
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September 28, 2011, 01:07:56 PM
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Here is a summation of some things myself and other SolidCoin people could find on mr_moon / Christian Wayne Verdun

http://solidcointalk.org/topic/204-what-happen-to-mooncoin/page__pid__2078__st__20#entry2078

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September 28, 2011, 01:16:58 PM
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trimpton is a user name on SA.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2585949&userid=61301

Now this: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.ruby.rails/249680

He lied about only knowing about HTML and CSS. This is not an opinion!

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