Unknown National Chain Restaurant to Accept Bitcoin This Weekend

[BitcoinPorn]

In a message sent out to the Google group Bitcoin People, Bruce Wagner announced;

Yesterday I was contacted by a major national chain restaurant with more than 500 locations nationwide.

The guy said, "Your show was an inspiration, and the primary reason we now accept bitcoins."

WOW!

They want my help in setting them up to accept Bitcoin ASAP.

They plan to install Bitcoin POS in about 3 locations, as a test, THIS WEEKEND!

A day earlier, Bruce was talking about a Chinese restaurant that has agreed to talk Bitcoin.  Is it safe to say Meze Grill has started a trend?  Expect the national chain restaurant on The Bitcoin Show on OnlyOneTV soon.

Bad ass image used in this post is taken from a Photoshop by Alex Beckenham https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5168.0

http://bitcoinmedia.com/national-chain-restaurant-to-accept-bitcoin-t


Also in related news for those who like to use Bitcoin for IRL goods, MemoryDealers is doing a 10% Bitcoin rebate, I highly suggest supporting them.

Edit: MemoryDealers made a thread about the deal here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=44155.0

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[deslok]

I got the same email earlier, i'll belive it when i see it simply because if they're not announcing what resturant how is anyone going to know to go there and spend bitcoins? the first resturant to announce they're taking bitcoins will have every person with a wallet.dat withing driving range show up just for the novelty of buying food at a restruant with them

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

I got the same email earlier, i'll belive it when i see it simply because if they're not announcing what resturant how is anyone going to know to go there and spend bitcoins?

We should all eat Chinese out this weekend, gotta find this place!

[coined]

any clue on the name of the Restaurant chain?

500 locations nationwide is pretty significant, mainstream news would pick this up is it turns out to be real.

and if they get extra business from bitcoiners turning up,  I'm sure other places will try it.

it's been a good week for bitcoin news  

[nighteyes]

Finally... some good news!

Yes....what place is associating themselves with a criminal and scammer?

[FreeMoney]

Bruce "Huge news from the conference is another conference" Wagner isn't really a great source.

[edd]

I'm confused. This restaurant says "we now accept bitcoins" but also wants Bruce's help "setting them up to accept Bitcoin ASAP"?

[coined]

maybe they were just telling him they are now willing to accept bitcoins, but would like help.

[MrWizard]

I'm confused. This restaurant says "we now accept bitcoins" but also wants Bruce's help "setting them up to accept Bitcoin ASAP"?

That line made me skeptical, not confused.

[Exonumia]

Let's hope its not these guys 

[Fakeman]

This sounds very implausible even if you ignore the credibility of the source. Guess we'll know if there's any substance to it shortly.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Which restaurant is it?

Let's all guess.

Here's guess:

[bc]

We're in a recession. If a chain get gain a slight edge with minimal effort, it's worth trying. And if they're supposedly only trying it at three locations, it doesn't sound like much of a stretch.

Still, with so much drama and bad news, I can understand anyone being skeptical.

[fcmatt]

The claim sounds pretty idiotic to me. What restaurant chain, 500 large, decides to implement something in a matter of days
without proper planning? None. I am going to guess someone pranked spanky to get a laugh.

[evoorhees]

The claim sounds pretty idiotic to me. What restaurant chain, 500 large, decides to implement something in a matter of days
without proper planning? None. I am going to guess someone pranked spanky to get a laugh.

From the message chain, apparently they want Bruce to help point them toward some POS systems. They will then try one out at 2 or 3 locations in a pilot program. I don't think anyone is planning to launch 500 locations at once =)

Still, I'm skeptical of the news until it's confirmed. If true, it's a big deal.

[Bitcoin Swami]

I think someone is pranking bruce.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

I think someone is pranking bruce.

I had to read your post twice. I swore I read spanking Bruce the first time.

[coined]

I think someone is pranking bruce.

that would be pretty funny, he gets these "messages" then turns up at the local restaurant ready to help, and the manager says "what the f@ck are you talking about?  what coin? SECURITY!"

[fcmatt]

The claim sounds pretty idiotic to me. What restaurant chain, 500 large, decides to implement something in a matter of days
without proper planning? None. I am going to guess someone pranked spanky to get a laugh.

From the message chain, apparently they want Bruce to help point them toward some POS systems. They will then try one out at 2 or 3 locations in a pilot program. I don't think anyone is planning to launch 500 locations at once =)

Still, I'm skeptical of the news until it's confirmed. If true, it's a big deal.

Even two or three locations do not get a pilot program in a few days to a week is what I was trying to say.
From employee training to documentation to pricing to etc.. all happens over time and not some half ass rush
job.

I can understand consulting but to hype it like it will be available in a week is silly.

[BlockHash]

You'd think Bruce would have learned a lesson and backed away from the community already.

He's just setting himself up for another massive disaster, which is going to be hilarious because people are falling for his bullshit again.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

My only other guess is:



And here's why: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_restaurant_chains

Otherwise it's an:

[BitcoinPorn]

I'm confused. This restaurant says "we now accept bitcoins" but also wants Bruce's help "setting them up to accept Bitcoin ASAP"?

Ah, just caught this post.   That is a photoshop'd image by Alex Beckenham from  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5168.0 (I had that information on the link, but I did not copy and paste that here in the thread, I am editing the original post to avoid any further confusion).

[BitcoinPorn]

You'd think Bruce would have learned a lesson and backed away from the community already.

He's just setting himself up for another massive disaster, which is going to be hilarious because people are falling for his bullshit again.

In his defense, he did not submit the news or post it here.

[coined]

You'd think Bruce would have learned a lesson and backed away from the community already.

He's just setting himself up for another massive disaster, which is going to be hilarious because people are falling for his bullshit again.

yes the whole vagueness of "huge upcoming announcement at the conference" thing turning out to be "more conferences!" may have soured people's enthusiasm for his promises, but I'm hoping since there is some actual details like over 500 locations nationwide ect that there will be truth to this, you have to admit if it's true and it's in trials by a large restaurant chain that's pretty big news, possible the biggest news yet.

[edd]

I'm confused. This restaurant says "we now accept bitcoins" but also wants Bruce's help "setting them up to accept Bitcoin ASAP"?

Ah, just caught this post.   That is a photoshop'd image by Alex Beckenham from  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5168.0 (I had that information on the link, but I did not copy and paste that here in the thread, I am editing the original post to avoid any further confusion).

Oh, I wasn't referring to the image; I knew that was photoshopped. I was referring to Bruce's exclamation:

The guy said, "Your show was an inspiration, and the primary reason we now accept bitcoins."

[BlockHash]

You'd think Bruce would have learned a lesson and backed away from the community already.

He's just setting himself up for another massive disaster, which is going to be hilarious because people are falling for his bullshit again.

yes the whole vagueness of "huge upcoming announcement at the conference" thing turning out to be "more conferences!" may have soured people's enthusiasm for his promises, but I'm hoping since there is some actual details like over 500 locations nationwide ect that there will be truth to this, you have to admit if it's true and it's in trials by a large restaurant chain that's pretty big news, possible the biggest news yet.

If true, the large restaurant chain had better get someone other than Bruce involved in it. Hiring someone with his *ahem* colorful past isn't going to sit very well with investors no matter which way you slice it. But I agree, it could be huge if true, which I doubt.

I was looking at a thread over on SA and I think they bring up a good point - what company would do a pilot program on such short turn around? I've been involved in several point of sale roll outs in my career and I've never seen one pushed out in 24-48 hours on a pilot scale program. Plus, one really has to wonder what restaurant would put themselves in this kind of position with the fluctuating value of BTC being so volatile right now? Then, top if off with the typical Bruce ego plug - "my program inspired them!" and it's plain to see that this is following all of his other patterns.

[evoorhees]

Plus, one really has to wonder what restaurant would put themselves in this kind of position with the fluctuating value of BTC being so volatile right now?

That's so last century. Bit-pay already solves this completely. Surely competitors will too.

[luv2drnkbr]

First guess:  Not real

Second guess:  Einstein Bros. Bagel

[trentzb]

I find it difficult to believe a 500 location national chain would consider even a test run of accepting Bitcoin without consulting their legal group first. I suppose they may have been sitting on this or planning for a while as I don't think a legal group for such a chain would sign off on something like this in a matter of a few days.

[evolve]

I find it difficult to believe a 500 location national chain would consider even a test run of accepting Bitcoin without consulting their legal group first. I suppose they may have been sitting on this or planning for a while as I don't think a legal group for such a chain would sign off on something like this in a matter of a few days.

this.

[TTBit]

first guess: Doubt it

2nd guess:

[TTBit]

Third guess: Someone's long a massive amount at bitcoinica and needs a rumor bounce.

[indio007]

I find it difficult to believe a 500 location national chain would consider even a test run of accepting Bitcoin without consulting their legal group first. I suppose they may have been sitting on this or planning for a while as I don't think a legal group for such a chain would sign off on something like this in a matter of a few days.

What does legal have to do with it? Are bitcoins illegal? No . So they can be accepted if they want to. Money is whatever the contracting parties agree it is.

[kgo]

If this is true, I'll bet it's a franchisee rather than the parent corporation.  Often a franchisee will own a few locations.

[JohnDoe]

Bruce is notorious for over-promising and under-delivering so don't jizz your pants just yet.

[wolftaur]

Bruce is notorious for over-promising and under-delivering so don't jizz your pants just yet.

Um, this was the Bitcoin forum, not the sex workers forum. Guess with Bruce being in both worlds it was an easy mistake to make though.

[Bigpiggy01]

Me thinks it's:

[rainingbitcoins]

If true, the large restaurant chain had better get someone other than Bruce involved in it. Hiring someone with his *ahem* colorful past isn't going to sit very well with investors no matter which way you slice it. But I agree, it could be huge if true, which I doubt.

I was looking at a thread over on SA and I think they bring up a good point - what company would do a pilot program on such short turn around? I've been involved in several point of sale roll outs in my career and I've never seen one pushed out in 24-48 hours on a pilot scale program. Plus, one really has to wonder what restaurant would put themselves in this kind of position with the fluctuating value of BTC being so volatile right now? Then, top if off with the typical Bruce ego plug - "my program inspired them!" and it's plain to see that this is following all of his other patterns.

Bruce repeatedly makes up lies and extreme exaggerations to get reactions and attention from the Bitcoin community, but somehow the people who point this out are the ones who are trolls, not him.  Go figure.

[pennytrader]

Please keep the hype and pump the price of BTC. Can't wait to sell my remaining mined coins to any spike...

[bulanula]

Just another pathetic attempt to raise the price.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

First guess:  Not real

Second guess:  Einstein Bros. Bagel

I'm pretty sure your guess was inspired by my other post that had this image, Love to Drink Bare. 

[norulezapply]

The real question is: How long until Bruce sets this imaginary restaurant chain up with a convienient online wallet service that he's apparently got 25,000 coins with, which then disappears a few months later...

Bruce and the online wallet service.. totally coincidental relationship there of course.

[Elwar]

While I would hope that this would be true, I do not believe that Bitcoin is yet ready for POS acceptance outside of mom and pop shops with current services.

A mom and pop place tends to have the owners running the shop or running all of the accounting and books. This means that they have full control over the Bitcoin wallet.

A more corporate environment will have accountants that cut checks to pay for various things, with reports etc on spending. But an accountant with the Bitcoin wallet can
just as easily copy the wallet and take it home, then at any point just transfer all of the money out of it with no trace. Then claim that it was hacked, or that some other
employee must have had access to it.

Not to say that Bitcoin could not survive in such an environment. I just do not believe that at this time the tools are available for such an environment.

We have gotten to the point where it is very feasible for all mom and pop shops to easily accept Bitcoins as a POS service through bit-pay. All they need is an iPhone or Android. That is big enough news and will move Bitcoin forward dramatically.

[deepceleron]

While I would hope that this would be true, I do not believe that Bitcoin is yet ready for POS acceptance outside of mom and pop shops with current services.

...

Having worked POS development and support for a 2000 location corporation, I can tell you that Bitcoin can be made simple and employee idiot proof (and theft-proof too, since it is the customer creating the transfer and not the retailer). Unless they are using old-fashioned phone line machines, the company headquarters will already have data lines up to locations for POS credit card transactions which are processed through their custom terminals and datacenters, and the datacenter has high speed links to the backend servers for credit card companies. It's not much to add another payment option to software-driven terminals. I'm sure people here have used credit cards at Starbucks for example - with a card swipe you are through in 10 seconds.

The company would begin a transaction by creating a unique address and expected BTC payment in it's database, and push that to the POS and customer (with a 2D barcode on receipt or a POS display for mobile phone, etc). The transaction would be closed or finalized when the payment address gets its bitcoins, and an "all clear"/processed signal can be returned to the register. The database backend can use heuristics to determine risk in taking a 0 confirmation transaction, such as the transaction being distributed to a majority of nodes, an adequate fee to ensure inclusion, and balance and sending history on that address that might indicate a double-spend attempt. Considering that retailers have to eat credit card fees, and losses from stolen and disputed payments, etc, a non-reversible free bitcoin payment is like a godsend. The only big hurdle for Bitcoin at the POS is you have to wait for some confirmations for 100% fraud-proof money.

One thing in a retail environment, customers need to know how much the purchase cost is in BTC before making the purchase. To that effect, we need not a more stable exchange price, but retailers that are willing to set a long-term BTC price instead of simply looking up the current exchange rate. If customers know that 1 BTC is always worth a hamburger, expanded retail presence can actually stabilize BTC exchange rates.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

While I would hope that this would be true, I do not believe that Bitcoin is yet ready for POS acceptance outside of mom and pop shops with current services.

...

Having worked POS development and support for a 2000 location corporation, I can tell you that Bitcoin can be made simple and employee idiot proof (and theft-proof too, since it is the customer creating the transfer and not the retailer). Unless they are using old-fashioned phone line machines, the company headquarters will already have data lines up to locations for POS credit card transactions which are processed through their custom terminals and datacenters, and the datacenter has high speed links to the backend servers for credit card companies. It's not much to add another payment option to software-driven terminals. I'm sure people here have used credit cards at Starbucks for example - with a card swipe you are through in 10 seconds.

The company would begin a transaction by creating a unique address and expected BTC payment in it's database, and push that to the POS and customer (with a 2D barcode on receipt or a POS display for mobile phone, etc). The transaction would be closed or finalized when the payment address gets its bitcoins, and an "all clear"/processed signal can be returned to the register. The database backend can use heuristics to determine risk in taking a 0 confirmation transaction, such as the transaction being distributed to a majority of nodes, an adequate fee to ensure inclusion, and balance and sending history on that address that might indicate a double-spend attempt. Considering that retailers have to eat credit card fees, and losses from stolen and disputed payments, etc, a non-reversible free bitcoin payment is like a godsend. The only big hurdle for Bitcoin at the POS is you have to wait for some confirmations for 100% fraud-proof money.

One thing in a retail environment, customers need to know how much the purchase cost is in BTC before making the purchase. To that effect, we need not a more stable exchange price, but retailers that are willing to set a long-term BTC price instead of simply looking up the current exchange rate. If customers know that 1 BTC is always worth a hamburger, expanded retail presence can actually stabilize BTC exchange rates.

I think this is the part that Bruce is going to help them with:

The company would begin a transaction by creating a unique address and expected BTC payment in it's database, and push that to the POS and customer...

Coupled with free advertising on his web show(s). Followed by, "Oops! You're not going to believe this, but..."

[Elwar]

While I would hope that this would be true, I do not believe that Bitcoin is yet ready for POS acceptance outside of mom and pop shops with current services.

...

Having worked POS development and support for a 2000 location corporation, I can tell you that Bitcoin can be made simple and employee idiot proof (and theft-proof too, since it is the customer creating the transfer and not the retailer). Unless they are using old-fashioned phone line machines, the company headquarters will already have data lines up to locations for POS credit card transactions which are processed through their custom terminals and datacenters, and the datacenter has high speed links to the backend servers for credit card companies. It's not much to add another payment option to software-driven terminals. I'm sure people here have used credit cards at Starbucks for example - with a card swipe you are through in 10 seconds.

The company would begin a transaction by creating a unique address and expected BTC payment in it's database, and push that to the POS and customer (with a 2D barcode on receipt or a POS display for mobile phone, etc). The transaction would be closed or finalized when the payment address gets its bitcoins, and an "all clear"/processed signal can be returned to the register. The database backend can use heuristics to determine risk in taking a 0 confirmation transaction, such as the transaction being distributed to a majority of nodes, an adequate fee to ensure inclusion, and balance and sending history on that address that might indicate a double-spend attempt. Considering that retailers have to eat credit card fees, and losses from stolen and disputed payments, etc, a non-reversible free bitcoin payment is like a godsend. The only big hurdle for Bitcoin at the POS is you have to wait for some confirmations for 100% fraud-proof money.

One thing in a retail environment, customers need to know how much the purchase cost is in BTC before making the purchase. To that effect, we need not a more stable exchange price, but retailers that are willing to set a long-term BTC price instead of simply looking up the current exchange rate. If customers know that 1 BTC is always worth a hamburger, expanded retail presence can actually stabilize BTC exchange rates.

All of this has been solved and is working with https://bit-pay.com/aboutMobile.html

What I am talking about is on the accounting end. When there is one person who controls the business account and checks and accounting then it is an easy transition to a Bitcoin wallet. But with a corporation with accounting staff or off-site accounting services with many people in charge of small bits of purchasing and making deposits/withdrawals it makes things more complicated. Not that Bitcoin cannot be adapted to such an environment, but that we do not currently right now today have tools that deal with this type of environment. We just are not at that point yet. In my opinion.

[CosicMiner]

Its Hooters! 468 locations..

[BlockHash]

So what happens when this all turns out to be another troll by Bruce? Will people finally get the message that the guy is a scammer and a disgrace to the community?

[greyhawk]

Is it just me or is Bruce Wagner becoming the Don Lapre of Bitcoin?

No, Bruce has not enough counts of Fraud running against him yet.

Time to step up the game, Brucie.

[coined]

put the noose down boys, you can't lynch him yet

let's wait a bit and see if this is true and not greatly exaggerated.

[niko]

put the noose down boys, you can't lynch him yet

let's wait a bit and see if this is true and not greatly exaggerated.

Again?!

[julz]

From the bitcoin show episode 47

I don't wanna publish who it is quite at this very moment.. because they're gonna get a flood of 150 people and since they contacted me I wanna give them the ah.. you know the honour of giving them my opinion first.

The honour!?  A revealing slip at the ego on this guy or just an innocent miswording?
ok.. so it's a cheap shot  - but I found this funny.

[the founder]

From the conference Bruce works with bit-pay (that is how we had to pay to get in and pay for the booth)... and I do like the guys at bit-pay...  they were honest when I spoke to them and I do like their web cart for taking payments.  Plus you can't forget they always had the good looking models at their booth  

With bit-pay technically it could work.   I was able to transfer bitcoins from the bank to bitpay in about 10 seconds.

But the technical part is not what bugs me.. it's actually if it happens in the first place that does.   Last thing we need is more hotair.

If freaking Hooters / whatever starts taking bitcoins then things will start moving fast... because they take them,  then the bar down the street takes them... next thing you know everyone is taking them....   but I don't envision that happening...  something smells wrong with this..

An announcement like that with the word "unknown" doesn't make it helpful.

Alas,  who am I to judge...    

[memvola]

What I am talking about is on the accounting end. When there is one person who controls the business account and checks and accounting then it is an easy transition to a Bitcoin wallet. But with a corporation with accounting staff or off-site accounting services with many people in charge of small bits of purchasing and making deposits/withdrawals it makes things more complicated. Not that Bitcoin cannot be adapted to such an environment, but that we do not currently right now today have tools that deal with this type of environment. We just are not at that point yet. In my opinion.

I don't think it's (say, using bit-pay) any different from paypal or credit cards. I don't think you need to implement anything on top of that to the accounting side. Do you match every single payment to every credit card transaction? I don't think so... If there is a deficit, there is enough information you can use to investigate. Otherwise, accept payments, transfer money to your accounts in regular intervals, etc. IMO, training staff to use the payment method is the bottleneck here.

[thefussydutchman]

Bruce Wagner is the man yo!!

[Steve]

What I am talking about is on the accounting end. When there is one person who controls the business account and checks and accounting then it is an easy transition to a Bitcoin wallet. But with a corporation with accounting staff or off-site accounting services with many people in charge of small bits of purchasing and making deposits/withdrawals it makes things more complicated. Not that Bitcoin cannot be adapted to such an environment, but that we do not currently right now today have tools that deal with this type of environment. We just are not at that point yet. In my opinion.

I don't think it's (say, using bit-pay) any different from paypal or credit cards. I don't think you need to implement anything on top of that to the accounting side. Do you match every single payment to every credit card transaction? I don't think so... If there is a deficit, there is enough information you can use to investigate. Otherwise, accept payments, transfer money to your accounts in regular intervals, etc. IMO, training staff to use the payment method is the bottleneck here.

Are you aware of the script capabilities in bitcoin?  They will enable transactions of the sort that require say 3 out of 5 signature to spend funds.  This is exactly what is needed in a corporate accounting context.  This same capability can also be used for multi-factor authentication to protect high value wallets.  I believe Gavin and other core developers are doing work to enable these capabilities as we speak.

[memvola]

I don't think it's (say, using bit-pay) any different from paypal or credit cards. I don't think you need to implement anything on top of that to the accounting side. Do you match every single payment to every credit card transaction? I don't think so... If there is a deficit, there is enough information you can use to investigate. Otherwise, accept payments, transfer money to your accounts in regular intervals, etc. IMO, training staff to use the payment method is the bottleneck here.

Are you aware of the script capabilities in bitcoin?  They will enable transactions of the sort that require say 3 out of 5 signature to spend funds.  This is exactly what is needed in a corporate accounting context.  This same capability can also be used for multi-factor authentication to protect high value wallets.  I believe Gavin and other core developers are doing work to enable these capabilities as we speak.

Wow, I hadn't thought of its potential usefulness in corporate accounting. Notary service without having to trust any single entity and without cost.

What I'm saying is though, you don't have to implement major accounting changes to start accepting payments with bit-pay.

[JohnDoe]

Um, this was the Bitcoin forum, not the sex workers forum. Guess with Bruce being in both worlds it was an easy mistake to make though.

lolwut

[Elwar]

Are you aware of the script capabilities in bitcoin?  They will enable transactions of the sort that require say 3 out of 5 signature to spend funds.  This is exactly what is needed in a corporate accounting context.  This same capability can also be used for multi-factor authentication to protect high value wallets.  I believe Gavin and other core developers are doing work to enable these capabilities as we speak.

I have not heard of this. I will definitely look into it. Sounds like just what is needed to bring Bitcoin to the big time.

[MemoryDealers]

Its Hooters! 468 locations..

Someone please photoshop bitcoins into the hooters logo!

This would be the perfect combination.
I hope it is true!

[FreeMoney]

Are you aware of the script capabilities in bitcoin?  They will enable transactions of the sort that require say 3 out of 5 signature to spend funds.  This is exactly what is needed in a corporate accounting context.  This same capability can also be used for multi-factor authentication to protect high value wallets.  I believe Gavin and other core developers are doing work to enable these capabilities as we speak.

I have not heard of this. I will definitely look into it. Sounds like just what is needed to bring Bitcoin to the big time.

Oh yeah, it is sick awesome. I want some [A and B] or C action please.

[ampirebus]

somebody just tell me what the name of the chain is already or can we rename the subject "bruce wagner annoys people on the internet by making delusional claims that are true in some sense, false in some sense, and meanginless in some sense"[/color]

[repentance]

If this is true, I'll bet it's a franchisee rather than the parent corporation.  Often a franchisee will own a few locations.

It would be very stupid for a franchisee to do something like this without approval from the parent company.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Its Hooters! 468 locations..

Someone please photoshop bitcoins into the hooters logo!

This would be the perfect combination.
I hope it is true!

Years ago, I had this idea of a restaurant chain that caters to women based on the same theme as Hooters. The name? Hamptons. I pictured it standing room only, every night. 

[repentance]

It must be "this weekend" in the US by now.  Wonder when Bruce is planning on making his big announcement.

[rainingbitcoins]

It's 6AM in New York now. If there is a restaurant accepting Bitcoins this weekend, it should be open within the next few hours. I guess we'll see.

[Shinobi]

Are you gullible? Male? Preferably pre-pubescent? Bruce Wagner's PeeWee Playhouse is open for business!

[CosicMiner]

Its Hooters! 468 locations..

Someone please photoshop bitcoins into the hooters logo!

This would be the perfect combination.
I hope it is true!

By request:

[MemoryDealers]

Its Hooters! 468 locations..

Someone please photoshop bitcoins into the hooters logo!

This would be the perfect combination.
I hope it is true!

By request:

Thank you so much!

I love it, and my girl friend is pissed because I may soon have a reason to go to Hooters every day for lunch!

http://www.hooters.co.jp/

[BitcoinPorn]

I for one welcome our Boobcoin overlords.

[CosicMiner]

Thank you so much!

I love it, and my girl friend is pissed because I may soon have a reason to go to Hooters every day for lunch!

http://www.hooters.co.jp/

Your welcome! Didn't mean to upset your girlfriend   

[MemoryDealers]

My friend just mentioned that Hooters would make sense for this.

It is the kind of place that some people may not want to have show up on their credit card bill where their wife might see it.

Cash and Bitcoins are good for this kind of thing.

[netrin]

Just went to hooters.com to see their tech savvy implementation... Yeah, that looks about right

[Elwar]

I think I have this figured out.

Bruce has a friend who owns a Chinese restaurant that said she would be interested in accepting Bitcoin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=printpage;topic=1788.0

Most likely he has showed her the new bit-pay mobile app that makes it easy to accept Bitcoin for stores and she is probably setting it up this weekend.

So...a national chain restaurant will be accepting Bitcoins.

It would be like a Subway store owner putting the bit-pay app on his phone and accepting Bitcoins at his store and the story being "Subway restaurant now accepts Bitcoin!"

[BitcoinPorn]

tl;dr  Bruce' friend owns four Panda Express franchises.

[netrin]

Bruce is an easy target, but he's trying to promote bitcoin. Give him a little slack. Perhaps we should all encourage local businesses to accept bitcoin. Let's make the news instead of reading about it.

[deslok]

I think I have this figured out.

Bruce has a friend who owns a Chinese restaurant that said she would be interested in accepting Bitcoin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=printpage;topic=1788.0

Most likely he has showed her the new bit-pay mobile app that makes it easy to accept Bitcoin for stores and she is probably setting it up this weekend.

So...a national chain restaurant will be accepting Bitcoins.

It would be like a Subway store owner putting the bit-pay app on his phone and accepting Bitcoins at his store and the story being "Subway restaurant now accepts Bitcoin!"

Makes me thing you could build a decent POS terminal out of a relativly cheap tablet though

[Nagle]

Bruce is an easy target, but he's trying to promote bitcoin. Give him a little slack.

No, don't. Once a con man, always a con man.

[Nagle]

Makes me thing you could build a decent POS terminal out of a relativly cheap tablet though

Square already does that, quite successfully. 

[Rassah]

Makes me thing you could build a decent POS terminal out of a relativly cheap tablet though

Square already does that, quite successfully expensively.

[zerokwel]

All I am going to say is weekend is nearly over...

[deslok]

Makes me thing you could build a decent POS terminal out of a relativly cheap tablet though

Square already does that, quite successfully. 

As in hundred dollar android tablet in an enclosure, not a 500+ dollar ipad with squares dongle(although said dongle would work on any tablet to my knowledge nothing special about a rfid sensor outputting via the mic in on a device)

[Littleshop]

Makes me thing you could build a decent POS terminal out of a relativly cheap tablet though

Square already does that, quite successfully. 

As in hundred dollar android tablet in an enclosure, not a 500+ dollar ipad with squares dongle(although said dongle would work on any tablet to my knowledge nothing special about a rfid sensor outputting via the mic in on a device)

I have not seen a $100 tablet that was any good. They are slow, have substandard touch screens to the point of unworkability, as well as old versions of Android.  I have tried a few.  Is there anything out there for $100 that is really usable on a long term basis? 

I have seen $300 tablets that are just fine though. 

[vapourminer]

rooted my color nook. pretty sweet tablet for 250ish USD. 7" though.

agreed on 100 USD tablets. junk. I have one. what a slug. mushy soft plastic resistive screen. ya get what you pay for..

so.. on topic.. its saturday evening here. still waiting heh.

[deslok]

Makes me thing you could build a decent POS terminal out of a relativly cheap tablet though

Square already does that, quite successfully. 

As in hundred dollar android tablet in an enclosure, not a 500+ dollar ipad with squares dongle(although said dongle would work on any tablet to my knowledge nothing special about a rfid sensor outputting via the mic in on a device)

I have not seen a $100 tablet that was any good. They are slow, have substandard touch screens to the point of unworkability, as well as old versions of Android.  I have tried a few.  Is there anything out there for $100 that is really usable on a long term basis? 

I have seen $300 tablets that are just fine though. 

i've used a few of the cheaper ones and you're right i wouldnt use it day to day but as a POS terminal they should be fine(no real need for multitouch or anything fancy)

[proudhon]

We've been Bruced!

[repentance]

We've been Bruced!

In a few days time he'll announce that the trial was a huge success and that there are going to be bigger and better trials - all without revealing the company concerned.

[GlenBot]

I heard it from a reliable source that THIS IS THE PLACE:


http://glencooper.com/glencooper/funstuff/you_named_it_what/Japanese_Restaurant.jpg

Fuk mi, we now accept BitCoins, may I take your order?

[Rassah]

I heard it from a reliable source that THIS IS THE PLACE:

Fuk mi, we now accept BitCoins, may I take your order?

Though, technically, I think the pronunciation would be "Whok me?" (I think fu sounds like who there)

[thefussydutchman]

We've been Bruced!

In a few days time he'll announce that the trial was a huge success and that there are going to be bigger and better trials - all without revealing the company concerned.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

We've been Bruced!

In a few days time he'll announce that the trial was a huge success and that there are going to be bigger and better trials - all without revealing the company concerned.

And the restaurant chain will be opening up a new buffet in Pattaya.

[JonHind]

Why do people still listen to Bruce or have anything to do with him?

[fastandfurious]

Why do people still listen to Bruce or have anything to do with him?

+1

[BitcoinPorn]

Why do people still listen to Bruce or have anything to do with him?

He has made legit connections within the Bitcoin communities.  He is still a middle ground between parties it seems, and it will probably be that way for a while.

[Gabi]

Makes me thing you could build a decent POS terminal out of a relativly cheap tablet though

Square already does that, quite successfully. 

As in hundred dollar android tablet in an enclosure, not a 500+ dollar ipad with squares dongle(although said dongle would work on any tablet to my knowledge nothing special about a rfid sensor outputting via the mic in on a device)

I have not seen a $100 tablet that was any good. They are slow, have substandard touch screens to the point of unworkability, as well as old versions of Android.  I have tried a few.  Is there anything out there for $100 that is really usable on a long term basis? 

I have seen $300 tablets that are just fine though. 

Are you really expecting same performance of a 800$ tablet from a 100$ one??? 

Try comparing tablets of the same price, they will be better than the iCrap

[deslok]

Makes me thing you could build a decent POS terminal out of a relativly cheap tablet though

Square already does that, quite successfully. 

As in hundred dollar android tablet in an enclosure, not a 500+ dollar ipad with squares dongle(although said dongle would work on any tablet to my knowledge nothing special about a rfid sensor outputting via the mic in on a device)

I have not seen a $100 tablet that was any good. They are slow, have substandard touch screens to the point of unworkability, as well as old versions of Android.  I have tried a few.  Is there anything out there for $100 that is really usable on a long term basis? 

I have seen $300 tablets that are just fine though. 

Are you really expecting same performance of a 800$ tablet from a 100$ one??? 

Try comparing tablets of the same price, they will be better than the iCrap

No not the same just good enough for a simple pos, even if a sufficient tablet can't be found for a hundred surely two hundred is manageable

[BitMagic]

Folks, it's not happening. There was stupid banter on Twitter at the time, but it's all gone. That's because either everything fell through, or Bruce realized it was a troll and deleted everything.

[zerokwel]

weekend is nearly over..... and he's deleting his post's on the lies.

Hmm

[someotherguy]

If you believed Bruce on this, than let this be a lesson for you.  Bruce is bad for Bitcoin, the longer he is around Bitcoin, the longer Bitcoin will suffer as a result.

[evolve]

bruce didnt deliver?     shocking.

[the founder]

I hate crap like this.  It would have been 1000 times better not to say anything than this.... 

[FlipPro]

sigh...

[coined]

what happened? 

was he supposed to say something at a certain date and didn't?

any word either way on this?

[im3w1l]

The chain just uploaded a promo where they demo buying a burger with Bitcoin!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

Omg, this is huge

[randomguy7]

Youtube says this video isn't available in my country, great, what did I miss, some joke or is this serious?

edit: never mind 

[Herodes]

The chain just uploaded a promo where they demo buying a burger with Bitcoin!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

Omg, this is huge

If mr. Wagner tells you anything, don't believe it unless you can validate it for yourself. He's lost his credibility.

[wolftaur]

Folks, it's not happening. There was stupid banter on Twitter at the time, but it's all gone. That's because either everything his plans to scam the restaurant fell through, or Bruce realized it was a troll matter he'd go to criminal court instead of civil court for and deleted everything.

Fixed it for you.

[Syke]

The chain just uploaded a promo where they demo buying a burger with Bitcoin!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

Omg, this is huge

Thank you. I needed that.

[evolve]

so. can we all agree to stop defending bruce now?

please?

for fucks sake, stop pretending this asshole isnt a con man.

that is all.

[Richard Rahl]

so. can we all agree to stop defending bruce now?

please?

for fucks sake, stop pretending this asshole isnt a con man.

that is all.

Can I QFT?

Yeah....... I'm going for a QFT here.

[BitMagic]

Folks, it's not happening. There was stupid banter on Twitter at the time, but it's all gone. That's because either everything his plans to scam the restaurant fell through, or Bruce realized it was a troll matter he'd go to criminal court instead of civil court for and deleted everything.

Fixed it for you.

You give the man way too much credit if you think criminal court would slow him down for a second.

[wolftaur]

You give the man way too much credit if you think criminal court would slow him down for a second.

Actually, I'm pretty sure he's way too stupid for jail to be a deterrent, but comedy doesn't always have to be completely accurate.

[dinker]

The chain just uploaded a promo where they demo buying a burger with Bitcoin!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

Omg, this is huge

Anyone heard of that burger shop chain?
Too bad we don't have that burger shop around here locally.
/sadface

[Phinnaeus Gage]

The chain just uploaded a promo where they demo buying a burger with Bitcoin!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

Omg, this is huge

Anyone heard of that burger shop chain?
Too bad we don't have that burger shop around here locally.
/sadface

I ate there once and truly enjoyed the beef roll.

[ineededausername]

I just got banned by Bruce from bitcoin people


Sorry...

The owner of this group has banned you from this group.

This happened after I posted a question about this "restaurant" out of curiosity.  I wonder why...

[Bitcoin_Silver_Supply]

Anyone shocked or disappointed by this hasn't been following his extended list of blunders and baseless hype which falls apart instantaneously, only to be replaced by a new baseless hype the next week.

[Rassah]

Anyone shocked or disappointed by this hasn't been following his extended list of blunders and baseless hype which falls apart instantaneously, only to be replaced by a new baseless hype the next week.

Isn't baseless hype the epitome of Bitcoin, and what makes it so much fun?

[Anonymous]

I have a feeling it was a SomethingAwful goon that sold Bruce on this rumor.

[JeffK]

I have a feeling it was a SomethingAwful goon that sold Bruce on this rumor.

I don't think so. Bruce is pretty gullible though

[Rassah]

Didn't realize it was that easy to scam a scammer, though I've seen funnier stories about that:
The Powerbook Prank

[repentance]

I have a feeling it was a SomethingAwful goon that sold Bruce on this rumor.

I doubt it.  Goons love posting about their Bitcoin related exploits.  Even if you're right, it doesn't explain why Bruce chose to simply remain silent and blueball everyone as the weekend drew closer rather than letting people know it wasn't happening (for whatever reason).

[GideonGono]

Didn't realize it was to easy to scam a scammer, though I've seen funnier stories about that:
The Powerbook Prank

I just read that, took me a while to get up from the floor from laughing so much 

[evolve]

mystery solved...this was just posted on SA.

atlas was right, who knew?

[Anonymous]

Honestly, who else would be nefarious enough to sell Bruce on this? Nobody else cares more about Bitcoin and stirring up its respective community than they do. It seems they care more than us at times. Nobody else would be as irrational and senseless to waste their time on such an affair; provisioned merely by the suffering and reactions of others.

[FlipPro]

I love how their topic went from being a comedy thread, and quickly turned into an investment thread. Lol, I actually think that was what was behind all the recent attacks.

[Rassah]

Heh, converting the money and energy of your parent's food, support, and basement into internet diarrhea since 19-whatever, eh?


The irony is, regardless of what that guy did, his actions resulted in a HUGE boost to discussing and collaborating on better Point-of-Sale systems. So, thanks SA for getting us focused on a much needed topic, even if it was obviously your original intention.

I'm also still a bit lost on the whole SA goon lied to Bruce == Bruce is a liar and should not be trusted. Someone please explain?

[stick_theman]

Heh, converting the money and energy of your parent's food, support, and basement into internet diarrhea since 19-whatever, eh?


The irony is, regardless of what that guy did, his actions resulted in a HUGE boost to discussing and collaborating on better Point-of-Sale systems. So, thanks SA for getting us focused on a much needed topic, even if it was obviously your original intention.

+1

[netrin]

I'm also still a bit lost on the whole SA goon lied to Bruce == Bruce is a liar and should not be trusted. Someone please explain?

+1

[ineededausername]

How gullible can Bruce get?
http://twitter.com/#!/SwissChaIet
Note that it's Chaiet not chalet...

[d.james]

I just got banned by Bruce from bitcoin people
This happened after I posted a question about this "restaurant" out of curiosity.  I wonder why...

Their first rule is you do NOT TALK ABOUT it!

[JeffK]

mystery solved...this was just posted on SA.

atlas was right, who knew?

broken clock, etc. etc.

[Anonymous]

mystery solved...this was just posted on SA.

atlas was right, who knew?

broken clock, etc. etc.

In my defense, I don't predict wildly. I hardly make predictions; however, I am just going to take the high ground on this one.

[JeffK]

mystery solved...this was just posted on SA.

atlas was right, who knew?

broken clock, etc. etc.

In my defense, I don't predict wildly. I hardly make predictions; however, I am just going to take the high ground on this one.

How's that new financial group coming along, by the way? This project of yours has a name, I'm impressed

[BitMagic]

I'm also still a bit lost on the whole SA goon lied to Bruce == Bruce is a liar and should not be trusted. Someone please explain?

They're not related. With SA's history of internet detectivity, they uncovered a lot about Bruce Wagner's background before this stupid restaurant thing. Ignore the address (SA after all), it's actually a pretty legit look into Wagner.

http://buttcoin.org/has-bruce-wagner-pulled-off-the-financial-biggest-scam-on-the-bitcoin-community

[bosschair]

I love how their topic went from being a comedy thread, and quickly turned into an investment thread. Lol, I actually think that was what was behind all the recent attacks.

I think you're closer to the truth than you realize here.  I'm a noob over there (I joined just to participate in their bitcoin thread), so I'm not hip to all of their lingo and inside references, but I've gotten an inkling of something going on that's verrrrry interesting.  I think they're actually the ones collaborating to manipulate the market, but not in order to crash it -- they just want to create false volatility so they can make money at short-term speculation.  Think about it: all the recent market drama happens at the same time as bitcoin community drama?  It's a little too tidy.  I just wonder how many times they'll do their pump/dump/crash/buy cycle before they get bored and the price goes back to its normal, naturally increasing trajectory.

[evolve]

I've gotten an inkling of something going on that's verrrrry interesting.  I think they're actually the ones collaborating to manipulate the market, but not in order to crash it -- they just want to create false volatility so they can make money at short-term speculation.  Think about it: all the recent market drama happens at the same time as bitcoin community drama?  It's a little too tidy.  I just wonder how many times they'll do their pump/dump/crash/buy cycle before they get bored and the price goes back to its normal, naturally increasing trajectory.

i highly fucking doubt that. try harder.

[Rassah]

They're not related. With SA's history of internet detectivity, they uncovered a lot about Bruce Wagner's background before this stupid restaurant thing. Ignore the address (SA after all), it's actually a pretty legit look into Wagner.

I know all that, but how did THIS

http://buttcoin.org/has-bruce-wagner-pulled-off-the-financial-biggest-scam-on-the-bitcoin-community

make the SA goons trolling Bruce into THIS

"can we all agree to stop defending bruce now?"
"If mr. Wagner tells you anything, don't believe it unless you can validate it for yourself. He's lost his credibility."
"If you believed Bruce on this, than let this be a lesson for you. "
"Why do people still listen to Bruce or have anything to do with him?"


I know I'm beating a dead horse, but I'm just not following the "being trolled by someone is more proof that you're a liar/scammer" line of thought.
Meh, whatever.

[evolve]

hes still a fucking scammer, the fact he was tricked this time by a member of SA doesnt change that fact....after all, SA had nothing to do with the mortgage scam he was running.

he killed his own credibility with his actions.

[bbit]

hes still a fucking scammer, the fact he was tricked this time by a member of SA doesnt change that fact....after all, SA had nothing to do with the mortgage scam he was running.

he killed his own credibility with his actions.

and your mother is a whore does it make it true ?  seriously, stop defending SA goons. They are to blame for a lot of SHIT going on around here!

[evolve]

if there were court documents that backed up the statement, then yes. most likely.

secondly, ill do whatever the fuck i want. if you dont like it, you can go hatefuck a bucket of razors.

[bbit]

if there were court documents that backed up the statement, then yes. most likely.

secondly, ill do whatever the fuck i want. if you dont like it, you can go hatefuck a bucket of razors.

then stfu when other people are going to "do what they want" then also.  So everyone here who has had a court document and deals with bitcoins  isn't worthy of bitcoins  - go fuck off idiot moron.

[evolve]

yes if you are a convicted scammer, i dont think you have any business trying to be the face of bitcoins.   Him stepping away from btc (at least in any public sense) can only help the community as a whole. 

those willing to defend a scammer are just as bad as the scammer themselves. if you refuse to see that, then thats on you.

[nhodges]

I am not coming to the defense of SA, but the only way to get trolled is to let yourself be trolled. Several of the goons have resorted to trolling (Yes, some of them are just trolls.) as a last resort, after participating in the community here and seeing that fraudulence and unprofessionalism occurs, most of the time without ramification. What most of them have to say is based on real concern and should be taken into consideration (in silence, you don't have to press reply!) and meditated on, EVEN IF THEY ARE JUST PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE TO TROLL YOU.

Do your own due diligence before entering into ANY sort of obligation, not just financial contracts. Acting in this accord is not only beneficial to us as a Bitcoin community, it is beneficial to yourself as a human being, businessperson, or whatever. Be aware, be constantly vigilant!

[bbit]

yes if you are a convicted scammer, i dont think you have any business trying to be the face of bitcoins.

those willing to defend a scammer are just as bad as the scammer themselves.

nobody is defending him ... SA is not a "jury"  I hate to inform you.  Let him have his day in court and leave it at that instead we have children coming on this board posting the same crap over and over how is a "fucking scammer" blah,blah  

[evolve]

as soon as he stops trying to be a BTC public figure, people will stop yelling scammer.

[bbit]

as soon as he stops trying to be a BTC public figure, people will stop yelling scammer.

Has he been convicted in court of bitcoin scammer ?  

[evolve]

http://mortgagefraudblog.com/perp-walk/item/10674-illinois_foreclosure_rescue_company_fined_and_shut_down

convicted in civil court. this has all been gone through before on a bunch of other threads. next time search for yourself.

[bbit]

http://mortgagefraudblog.com/perp-walk/item/10674-illinois_foreclosure_rescue_company_fined_and_shut_down

convicted in civil court. this has all been gone through before on a bunch of other threads. next time search for yourself.

looks like that has nothing to do with bitcoins? I'm unaware he has been convicted for being a bitcoin scammer? can you point to an article?

[evolve]

yeah, b/c its just mortgage fraud.....who the fuck cares about that, right?   

he scammed 74 people according to the judgement. 74.  but thats ok b/c he didnt use btc? 

a scammer is a scammer no matter what currency you are using at the time.

[bbit]

yeah, b/c its just mortgage fraud.....who the fuck cares about that right?    he scammed 74 people according to the judgement. 74.


but thats ok b/c he didnt use btc?


a scammer is a scammer no matter what currency you are using at the time.

Nobody is saying its ok  but you are proving my point . I guess nobody can have a late payment on a credit card ( that is money ) , been sent to jail before ,  been cited with several parketing tickets and deal with bitcoins?  You have to have a clean record in order to use bitcoins because SA says so are you are labeled.

[evolve]

I guess nobody can have a late payment on a credit card ( that is money ) , been sent to jail before ,  been cited with several parketing tickets and deal with bitcoins?

thats a far cry from conning over $100k from people in a mortgage scam.

my point remains that a convicted scammer should not be the defacto face of bitcoin. not if there is any hope of it being successful.

[Rassah]

Him stepping away from btc (at least in any public sense) can only help the community as a whole. 

If a thief finds a new calling in life where they can help people, instead of continuing to hurt them like they used to, and you take that away from them, the ONLY thing you will accomplish is making that thief desperate enough to return to hurting others. If Bruce is as horrible as you say he is, I'd much rather have him host a harmless interview show than actively trying to figure out how to scam us out of our Bitcoins.

[nhodges]

Off topic, but, was just following the SA thread and saw something interesting, decided this was the best way to get a message back over there, without paying $10.

@goons looking at Bitcoins for Charity, check again. There's an easter egg somewhere there, too. (Also, a disclaimer, we are not a charity and do not accept Bitcoins or cash on behalf of anyone. We only list charities that accept Bitcoins on their own behalf. What Devian666 did is exactly what we do.)

[BitMagic]

Him stepping away from btc (at least in any public sense) can only help the community as a whole. 

If a thief finds a new calling in life where they can help people, instead of continuing to hurt them like they used to, and you take that away from them, the ONLY thing you will accomplish is making that thief desperate enough to return to hurting others. If Bruce is as horrible as you say he is, I'd much rather have him host a harmless interview show than actively trying to figure out how to scam us out of our Bitcoins.

Uhh, yes. Bruce Wagner will only be a sleezy, law-breaking mortgage bitcoin scammer because he found a new calling, but then decided after being harassed on the internet it's time to rape and pillage. Yes. Yes, you're right. Bruce is a wonderful man turned bad by hell-borne internetspeak. God save his soul. Maybe you should donate a few BTC to help him on his righteous way?

[Ayo_4_Yayo]

How can Bruce commit fraud if he was stealing worthless fiat dollars? The math doesn't add up!

[bosschair]

If Bruce is as horrible as you say he is, I'd much rather have him host a harmless interview show than actively trying to figure out how to scam us out of our Bitcoins.

An interview show that's constantly hyping dodgy shit like mybitcoin turns out to not be so harmless to a lot of people.  I agree with you that if all that happened was that he hosted a show and everyone who cared was well-informed about his shaky past, then nobody would trust a word that he said and he'd be harmless.  But in order for everyone to know that, you have to stop pretending that he doesn't deserve the bad public image he's getting, or you're part of the problem.

[LightRider]

All money is a scam. I don't have to trust BW with bitcoin. Would you trust a bank or a government to be held accountable with their pieces of paper?

[JonHind]

Anyone who can still defend Bruce or have anything to do with him after seeing the hard evidence of his mortgage scams (which includes court documents and news reports) are either somehow complicit with Bruce's scams, or are merely delusional die-hard ignorant fools who deserve to lose their money.

I personally won't have any dealings with any company which advertises on Bruce's show or is interviewed on Bruce's show. It is the main reason why I finally pulled out of MtGox.

[ParrotyBit]

If Bruce is as horrible as you say he is, I'd much rather have him host a harmless interview show than actively trying to figure out how to scam us out of our Bitcoins.

Hosting a harmless show sure kept the Bakkers and Peter Popoff out of trouble! Oh wait...

And honestly, a lot of us want Bruce's show back, scammer or not. It's just not the same with him gone! Who else will tell us that Bitcoins are going up up up when MtG:OX tells us to invest in the Power 9?

[freequant]

if there were court documents that backed up the statement, then yes. most likely.

secondly, ill do whatever the fuck i want. if you dont like it, you can go hatefuck a bucket of razors.

then stfu when other people are going to "do what they want" then also.  So everyone here who has had a court document and deals with bitcoins  isn't worthy of bitcoins  - go fuck off idiot moron.

bbit, you are so obviously Bruce Wagner or Edward Gel.
Where is gone your pure unconditional love?

[BadBear]

Sounds like bbit has been in trouble himself, thick as thieves, etc. 

[BlockHash]

Anyone who can still defend Bruce or have anything to do with him after seeing the hard evidence of his mortgage scams (which includes court documents and news reports) are either somehow complicit with Bruce's scams, or are merely delusional die-hard ignorant fools who deserve to lose their money.

I personally won't have any dealings with any company which advertises on Bruce's show or is interviewed on Bruce's show. It is the main reason why I finally pulled out of MtGox.

He's the main reason I pulled out of MtGOX entirely, well before the MYBTC fiasco (which he lied a great deal about - remember his "talks" and "opening a case" with the FBI? Didn't happen)

It's funny you mention the Baker's. There are people, to this day after being ripped off of everything they own by them, that still insist that Baker was a great guy. Even after losing their homes, their lifes savings, and even having entire families broken apart. I see Bitcoin as much the same. Most people are smart enough to disown and denounce the scammer, but there's still a loud subset of people who will defend the scammer while getting fleeced because "they believe". 

[Rassah]

Anyone who can still defend Bruce or have anything to do with him after seeing the hard evidence of his mortgage scams (which includes court documents and news reports) are either somehow complicit with Bruce's scams, or are merely delusional die-hard ignorant fools who deserve to lose their money.

I personally won't have any dealings with any company which advertises on Bruce's show or is interviewed on Bruce's show. It is the main reason why I finally pulled out of MtGox.

He's the main reason I pulled out of MtGOX entirely, well before the MYBTC fiasco (which he lied a great deal about - remember his "talks" and "opening a case" with the FBI? Didn't happen)

It's funny you mention the Baker's. There are people, to this day after being ripped off of everything they own by them, that still insist that Baker was a great guy. Even after losing their homes, their lifes savings, and even having entire families broken apart. I see Bitcoin as much the same. Most people are smart enough to disown and denounce the scammer, but there's still a loud subset of people who will defend the scammer while getting fleeced because "they believe".  

To be fair, I wasn't personally hurt by any of BW's claims or scams, and have never had my BTC stolen or scammed, since I try to do my own research on places I do business with (Bruce is at most just an advertisement), so perhaps not being hurt by him means I'm a bit biased.

[bbit]

Sounds like bbit has been in trouble himself, thick as thieves, etc. 

and what would that be?

[repentance]

Do your own due diligence before entering into ANY sort of obligation, not just financial contracts. Acting in this accord is not only beneficial to us as a Bitcoin community, it is beneficial to yourself as a human being, businessperson, or whatever. Be aware, be constantly vigilant!

This can't be repeated often enough.  "Scam" gets thrown around here almost as often as "troll" but I think that because there's a limited range of Bitcoin services available and people are desperate for more - and want to be in on the ground floor - people overlook the fact that a very high percentage of these new ventures are going to fail.  It takes a lot more than just a good idea for a business to succeed and a lot of good ideas end up going nowhere.  That's a reality in the real world and people starting Bitcoin ventures aren't immune to all the various factors which can cause a business to fail.

Bruce failed to do any due diligence regarding the Swiss Chalet hoax.  He wanted to be the person who brought it off so much that he overlooked some pretty obvious red flags.  He possibly twisted the facts a little bit too (the goon who perpetrated the hoax claims that Bruce phoned him whereas Bruce claims that it was the other way around).  A small detail, but one which I think indicates that Bruce still wants to be seen as a "somebody" within the Bitcoin community - the bigshot people will approach with big ideas.

I think that the "I want to believe" mentality does get in the way of people's commonsense sometimes and that people who ask legitimate questions about new ventures are too often and too easily dismissed as trolls spreading FUD - yet when those ventures fail, those who dismissed those concerns are quick to cry scam.

People need to keep in mind that any Bitcoin venture could fail literally overnight regardless of the intentions of its founders and limit their financial exposure to what they can genuinely afford to lose.

[Jørgen Moe]

I'd like to point out that if SA wants to make assumptions about Bitcoiners by the actions of a few, then Bitcoiners in the same vein can assume (remember though, assuming makes an ass out of you and ming) that SA goons are hypocritical and even prone to committing murder-suicides.

• SomethingAwful administrators once CLAIMED that SPEWS (an anonymous anti spam service) was hacking the SA server. This false accusation rallied SA goons to threaten DDoS (illegal activity) against SPEWS servers.
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Something_Awful#Spam_Prevention_Early_Warning_System
• SomethingAwful members William Freund and Andrew Allred were both directly involved in the murders of four innocent people. William Freund committed suicide after seeking advice on SA's gun subforum and shortly after killing two people. Andrew Allred plead guilty to the double homicide of Tiffany Barwick and Michael Ruschack. He also posted significant details about the murders on his website.
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Something_Awful#Shooting_deaths
  

Does this make Something Awful goons ALL gun-toting sociopathic murderers? Sociopaths, maybe. Damn good trolls, certainly. But I don't think all of them are murderers. Maybe I'm wrong, though.

I think there's a reason they call the website something awful.

[makomk]

I'd like to point out that if SA wants to make assumptions about Bitcoiners by the actions of a few, then Bitcoiners in the same vein can assume (remember though, assuming makes an ass out of you and ming) that SA goons are hypocritical and even prone to committing murder-suicides.

I'm sure there must be better dirt out there on SA you could be digging up, you know...

[repentance]

I'd like to point out that if SA wants to make assumptions about Bitcoiners by the actions of a few, then Bitcoiners in the same vein can assume (remember though, assuming makes an ass out of you and ming) that SA goons are hypocritical and even prone to committing murder-suicides.

I'm sure there must be better dirt out there on SA you could be digging up, you know...

Doll-fuckers, Zombabies, and poison wombs...

[BlockHash]

I'd like to point out that if SA wants to make assumptions about Bitcoiners by the actions of a few, then Bitcoiners in the same vein can assume (remember though, assuming makes an ass out of you and ming) that SA goons are hypocritical and even prone to committing murder-suicides.

• SomethingAwful administrators once CLAIMED that SPEWS (an anonymous anti spam service) was hacking the SA server. This false accusation rallied SA goons to threaten DDoS (illegal activity) against SPEWS servers.
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Something_Awful#Spam_Prevention_Early_Warning_System
• SomethingAwful members William Freund and Andrew Allred were both directly involved in the murders of four innocent people. William Freund committed suicide after seeking advice on SA's gun subforum and shortly after killing two people. Andrew Allred plead guilty to the double homicide of Tiffany Barwick and Michael Ruschack. He also posted significant details about the murders on his website.
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Something_Awful#Shooting_deaths
  

Does this make Something Awful goons ALL gun-toting sociopathic murderers? Sociopaths, maybe. Damn good trolls, certainly. But I don't think all of them are murderers. Maybe I'm wrong, though.

I think there's a reason they call the website something awful.

Don't forget about the loss of Fingats in explosives experimentation. They truly are terrorists.

[Gerken]

Oh god he looked at the wiki page, we've been found out now.  That's some super internet detective work you did there. 

 

[GimmeDemBitz]

I'd like to point out that if SA wants to make assumptions about Bitcoiners by the actions of a few, then Bitcoiners in the same vein can assume (remember though, assuming makes an ass out of you and ming) that SA goons are hypocritical and even prone to committing murder-suicides.

Leave Ming out of this, jerk.

So two guys out of 100,000+ committed murder?  That's a better per-capita crime rate than Sweden, right?

Compare that to 1 major exchange out of 8(?) that completely disappeared with everyone's BTC and dollars.  On a board with 40,000 members, there's callout threads for 4-5 scammers on the first page of the Trade forum alone, not counting Bruce & logansryche threads.  It's apples and oranges.

[Rassah]

I'd like to point out that blah bah blah...

Here's an important lesson for you: trolls troll for reactions, nothing more. If you react, and especially if you become defensive and whiny, they get their entertainment and will continue trolling. If you just shrug it off and say, "Yep, that's me," even if it's not true, they won't have power over you, will quickly get bored, and just leave. That is practically the entirety of how groups like SA operate. Trust me as someone with experience in both, being a part of a group that is a major SA troll target, and as someone who is close friends with some SA members.

[Ayo_4_Yayo]

Rassah I don't think your kind lasts longer than a minute on SomethingAwful, they have a policy against smart ass posts. And zoophilia.

[Rassah]

Rassah I don't think your kind lasts longer than a minute on SomethingAwful, they have a policy against smart ass posts. And zoophilia.

I wouldn't know, as I personally am not on the forums, nor have any interest to be. My ex bf (and still a very close friend) is, and I have seen plenty of SA conversations and activities through/thanks-to him.

Though if SA is anything like /b, I'm very surprised to hear they have a policy against zoophilia. The name of the forum would suggest that the more awful something is, the more likely someone would post it there for others to barf/laugh at.

Also, "yep, that's me!" 

[BlockHash]

I'd like to point out that blah bah blah...

Here's an important lesson for you: trolls troll for reactions, nothing more. If you react, and especially if you become defensive and whiny, they get their entertainment and will continue trolling. If you just shrug it off and say, "Yep, that's me," even if it's not true, they won't have power over you, will quickly get bored, and just leave. That is practically the entirety of how groups like SA operate. Trust me as someone with experience in both, being a part of a group that is a major SA troll target, and as someone who is close friends with some SA members.

I had never seen someone so eager to wear Yiffing as a cross until I joined this forum. You sir, are the Jesus of Yiffyness.

[Rassah]

I'd like to point out that blah bah blah...

Here's an important lesson for you: trolls troll for reactions, nothing more. If you react, and especially if you become defensive and whiny, they get their entertainment and will continue trolling. If you just shrug it off and say, "Yep, that's me," even if it's not true, they won't have power over you, will quickly get bored, and just leave. That is practically the entirety of how groups like SA operate. Trust me as someone with experience in both, being a part of a group that is a major SA troll target, and as someone who is close friends with some SA members.

I had never seen someone so eager to wear Yiffing as a cross until I joined this forum. You sir, are the Jesus of Yiffyness.

Yep, that's me too.

[rainingbitcoins]

Rassah I don't think your kind lasts longer than a minute on SomethingAwful, they have a policy against smart ass posts. And zoophilia.

I wouldn't know, as I personally am not on the forums, nor have any interest to be. My ex bf (and still a very close friend) is, and I have seen plenty of SA conversations and activities through/thanks-to him.

Though if SA is anything like /b, I'm very surprised to hear they have a policy against zoophilia. The name of the forum would suggest that the more awful something is, the more likely someone would post it there for others to barf/laugh at.

Also, "yep, that's me!" 

How many times in the average week do you unironically use the world "fursecution"?

[Rassah]

Rassah I don't think your kind lasts longer than a minute on SomethingAwful, they have a policy against smart ass posts. And zoophilia.

I wouldn't know, as I personally am not on the forums, nor have any interest to be. My ex bf (and still a very close friend) is, and I have seen plenty of SA conversations and activities through/thanks-to him.

Though if SA is anything like /b, I'm very surprised to hear they have a policy against zoophilia. The name of the forum would suggest that the more awful something is, the more likely someone would post it there for others to barf/laugh at.

Also, "yep, that's me!"  

How many times in the average week do you unironically use the world "fursecution"?

Lesson #2 is trolls can still be fun to feed/troll back if you're bored, as long as you never take them seriously or personally. (Though when that happens, the OP topic is usually permanently derailed, and so at this point I would suggest the mods move this heap to Off-Topic)

How is it that you know so much about furries? And is it really true that SA was founded by one and likely indoctrinates its members into that culture by feeding them furry pictures and knowledge without them suspecting?

[rainingbitcoins]

And is it really true that SA was founded by one and likely indoctrinates its members into that culture by feeding them furry pictures and knowledge without them suspecting?

Yes this part is disturbingly true. Richard "Twinkfox" Kyanka has been serving up a steady stream of cat penises to unsuspecting forumgoers for over 10 years now.

[BlockHash]

And is it really true that SA was founded by one and likely indoctrinates its members into that culture by feeding them furry pictures and knowledge without them suspecting?

Yes this part is disturbingly true. Richard "Twinkfox" Kyanka has been serving up a steady stream of cat penises to unsuspecting forumgoers for over 10 years now.

Not only this, but the infamous battle with Uwe Boll was actually a set up to sale videos of Twinkfox Kyanka and Uwe Boll yiffing atop a mound of mangosteens. It was on the DVD edition and the community never quite recovered. Some say you can hear a young Will Freund on the audio track with a breaking heart.

[Rassah]

And is it really true that SA was founded by one and likely indoctrinates its members into that culture by feeding them furry pictures and knowledge without them suspecting?

Yes this part is disturbingly true. Richard "Twinkfox" Kyanka has been serving up a steady stream of cat penises to unsuspecting forumgoers for over 10 years now.

Not only this, but the infamous battle with Uwe Boll was actually a set up to sale videos of Twinkfox Kyanka and Uwe Boll yiffing atop a mound of mangosteens. It was on the DVD edition and the community never quite recovered. Some say you can hear a young Will Freund on the audio track with a breaking heart.

Sounds as tragic as the furry group's run-in with the Burned Furs movement. From the opposide direction.

[Ayo_4_Yayo]

I am not a SA forums member because there are a lot of trolls over there and people say "get out" a lot

[repentance]

I am not a SA forums member because there are a lot of trolls over there and people say "get out" a lot

Sounds like you've wandered into YOSPOS.  They tell everyone who isn't a geek to get the fuck out or go back to gibbis.

[Ayo_4_Yayo]

I am not a SA forums member because there are a lot of trolls over there and people say "get out" a lot

Sounds like you've wandered into YOSPOS.  They tell everyone who isn't a geek to get the fuck out or go back to gibbis.

Fyi, "YOSPOS" stands for You Obese Shitheads but I don't remember the POS part.

[julz]

c'mon people...   Please stop hijacking this thread with irrelevant crap.

If it's not directly to do with Bruce's announcement - it's off topic.

[repentance]

c'mon people...   Please stop hijacking this thread with irrelevant crap.

If it's not directly to do with Bruce's announcement - it's off topic.

There's not really anything to do with Bruce's announcement left to talk about.  He fell for a troll by a goon (one which wasn't even specifically aimed at him initially).

[proudhon]

c'mon people...   Please stop hijacking this thread with irrelevant crap.

If it's not directly to do with Bruce's announcement - it's off topic.

There's not really anything to do with Bruce's announcement left to talk about.  He fell for a troll by a goon (one which wasn't even specifically aimed at him initially).

Has Bruce said anything about what happened?

[julz]

c'mon people...   Please stop hijacking this thread with irrelevant crap.

If it's not directly to do with Bruce's announcement - it's off topic.

There's not really anything to do with Bruce's announcement left to talk about.  He fell for a troll by a goon (one which wasn't even specifically aimed at him initially).

When I see this thread updated - I guess I'm hoping to hear news of a sheepish admission/apology from Bruce.. but I guess that's too much to hope for.

[repentance]

c'mon people...   Please stop hijacking this thread with irrelevant crap.

If it's not directly to do with Bruce's announcement - it's off topic.

There's not really anything to do with Bruce's announcement left to talk about.  He fell for a troll by a goon (one which wasn't even specifically aimed at him initially).

When I see this thread updated - I guess I'm hoping to hear news of a sheepish admission/apology from Bruce.. but I guess that's too much to hope for.

If he was going to post an explanation anywhere, I suspect it would be on his Google group where he made the announcement and not here.

[freequant]

This is just a bait to trick you into joining his new community.
Don't expect an answer here.
You'll have to join his forum to find out.

[Gerken]

This is just a bait to trick you into joining his new community.
Don't expect an answer here.
You'll have to join his forum to find out.

It isn't a community, it's a circle jerk of yes man all slapping each other on the back.  Yes SA does have people in it, and no nothing interesting is there. 

[Gerken]

This is just a bait to trick you into joining his new community.
Don't expect an answer here.
You'll have to join his forum to find out.

It isn't a community, it's a circle jerk of yes man all slapping each other on the back.  Yes SA does have people in it, and no nothing interesting is there.  

Hey guys, did you hear about that chain of restaurants that is going to accept Bitcoin? I'M STOKED.

But did you get any verification?  Is there a press release?  Have you talked to anyone in the company?

"POSITIVE ENERGY ONLY, BESIDES I HEARD IT FROM SOMEONE ON TWITTER!" *bans anyone not saying AWESOME! UP UP UP!*

[Rassah]

So... anyone with ties or communication with Bruce have any idea what happened to his show? I thought it was supposed to be a daily thing, but last one that came out was now a week ago 

[btcbaby]

So... anyone with ties or communication with Bruce have any idea what happened to his show? I thought it was supposed to be a daily thing, but last one that came out was now a week ago 

Was only ever a weekly thing.  btc::log does give away a whole Bitcoin daily to active new members.