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Update 02/07/2021:The dashboard gives you access to anyone’s complete merit history in the TX tab, surpassing the 120 day limit. Link: BitcoinTalk Merit Dashboard. Updated the Merit Dashboard to reflect the most recent sMerit available data: Total sMerit: 918.729 Total TXs: 499.085 From Users: 23.536 To Users: 39.455 minDate: 2018-01-24 22:12:21 maxDate: 2021-07-02 02:46:39 Aggregate awarded sMerit for the last complete week (21/06/2021 .. 27/06/2021) is 3.529, which is up 8,99% from the previous week. In addition, there are 1 new Legendary and 2 new Hero Members this week. hv_ -> Legendary from Hero Member during Merit System kick-off. Quidat -> Hero Member from Sr. Member during Merit System kick-off. shasan -> Hero Member from Old Era Newbie during Merit System kick-off. Note: -Copper Members and non-native ranks (staff, etc) are displayed as real (regular) ranks.
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@DdmrDdmr, what does -91 mean in June post count for Indonesian altcoins. Does it indicate that during the month of June a total of 91 post on the Indonesian altcoin board were deleted?
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Not exactly. It means that -91 net posts were " created". Net posts are: Created – deleted +/moved. It is also subject to forum reindexes, which may affect these counters (data is derived from forum official stats, comparing consecutive months). Essentially, it means that there have been more posts deleted or moved from the Indonesian Altcoin board, than created. When this happens, normally due to an increase in moderation, it’s best to discard the month’s reading for the board. If it happens sparsely, it should not be much of an issue. If it happens regularly, as it does lately on the Russian Local board, it renders the post count unusable/unreliable for that board for the implicated months. It could also lead to asking the local mod, just to understand better what happened for the local language community.
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@DdmrDdmr, what does -91 mean in June post count for Indonesian altcoins. Does it indicate that during the month of June a total of 91 post on the Indonesian altcoin board were deleted? Yes, negative numbers means the total post count of a specific board has decreased compared to previous snapshot. This can be due to a number of reasons, namely - Post deleted by user
- Post deleted by moderator
- Post moved to a different board
It is important to notice that whatever the cause, the posts that have beencdelted/moved, might have been posted earlier than the last period. I.e., regarding this specific issue, total post in June on that board might well be positive, but outnumbered by old post deletions by a moderator. Edit: sorry, didn’t notice @ddmrddmr already answered
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July 08, 2021, 11:35:34 AM |
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Not exactly. It means that -91 net posts were "created". Net posts are: Created – deleted +/moved. It is also subject to forum reindexes, which may affect these counters (data is derived from forum official stats, comparing consecutive months). Essentially, it means that there have been more posts deleted or moved from the Indonesian Altcoin board, than created. Yes, negative numbers means the total post count of a specific board has decreased compared to previous snapshot. This can be due to a number of reasons, namely - Post deleted by user
- Post deleted by moderator
- Post moved to a different board
It is important to notice that whatever the cause, the posts that have beencdelted/moved, might have been posted earlier than the last period. I.e., regarding this specific issue, total post in June on that board might well be positive, but outnumbered by old post deletions by a moderator. Edit: sorry, didn’t notice @ddmrddmr already answered Thanks @DdmrDdmr @fillippone, I updated the merit activity and monthly post for Indonesian local board. It seem that an incident like this has happened before when I haven't updated monthly post activities and merit for local board or to be precise in July and August 2020. Of course, because the activity chart that I made only specializes on Indonesian local board, then -91 will make one upside down candle on the monthly chart. Again, thanks for the explanation.
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July 08, 2021, 11:43:26 AM |
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] Thanks @DdmrDdmr @fillippone, I updated the merit activity and monthly post for Indonesian local board. It seem that an incident like this has happened before when I haven't updated monthly post activities and merit for local board or to be precise in July and August 2020. Of course, because the activity chart that I made only specializes on Indonesian local board, then -91 will make one upside down candle on the monthly chart. Again, thanks for the explanation.
As I am doing this kind of updates for the Italian board, I regularly notice this kind of “cleaning” activity taking place from time to time across all boards. My suggestion is to ask some “colour” on this to your local moderator as he could give you some more insight. Ah! This is going to help our board overcoming yours! (Long shot extrapolation needed!)
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July 09, 2021, 07:21:17 AM Merited by fillippone (3) |
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Update 09/07/2021:The dashboard gives you access to anyone’s complete merit history in the TX tab, surpassing the 120 day limit. Link: BitcoinTalk Merit Dashboard. Updated the Merit Dashboard to reflect the most recent sMerit available data: Total sMerit: 924.482 Total TXs: 501.925 From Users: 23.558 To Users: 39.579 minDate: 2018-01-24 22:12:21 maxDate: 2021-07-09 02:51:09 Aggregate awarded sMerit for the last complete week (28/06/2021 .. 04/07/2021) is 3.113, which is down 11,79% from the previous week. Nevertheless, current partial week, after Merit Source readjustments, renders so far an aggregate awarded sMerit of 4.521, which is up 45,23% from the previous week. In addition, there are 0 new Legendary and 3 new Hero Members this week. aoluain -> Hero Member from Sr. Member during Merit System kick-off. casperBGD -> Hero Member from New Era Newbie during Merit System kick-off. FatFork -> Hero Member from New Era Newbie during Merit System kick-off. Note: -Copper Members and non-native ranks (staff, etc) are displayed as real (regular) ranks.
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July 09, 2021, 09:03:25 AM |
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Update 09/07/2021:The dashboard gives you access to anyone’s complete merit history in the TX tab, surpassing the 120 day limit. Link: BitcoinTalk Merit Dashboard. <...> Aggregate awarded sMerit for the last complete week (28/06/2021 .. 04/07/2021) is 3.113, which is down 11,79% from the previous week. Nevertheless, current partial week, after Merit Source readjustments, renders so far an aggregate awarded sMerit of 4.521, which is up 45,23% from the previous week. Ah, nice that, I never noticed you were decoupling complete week compared to most recent data, so I was expecting to see the massive increase in Merits sent this week. I am far ahead distributing my new merit source, but I see on average others might be lagging behind. I guess there will need some time to adjust to the new sMerits allowances.
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July 16, 2021, 07:08:44 AM Last edit: July 23, 2021, 06:57:37 AM by DdmrDdmr Merited by fillippone (3) |
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Update 16/07/2021:The dashboard gives you access to anyone’s complete merit history in the TX tab, surpassing the 120 day limit. Link: BitcoinTalk Merit Dashboard. Updated the Merit Dashboard to reflect the most recent sMerit available data: Total sMerit: 930.843 Total TXs: 505.147 From Users: 23.583 To Users: 39.713 minDate: 2018-01-24 22:12:21 maxDate: 2021-07-16 02:39:11 Aggregate awarded sMerit for the last complete week (05/07/2021 .. 11/07/2021) is 6.910, which is up 121,97% from the previous week. In addition, there are 0 new Legendary and 5 new Hero Members this week. BlackHatCoiner -> Hero Member from New Era Newbie during Merit System kick-off. Mbitr -> Hero Member from New Era Newbie during Merit System kick-off. Porfirii -> Hero Member from Sr. Member during Merit System kick-off. soliton -> Hero Member from Full Member during Merit System kick-off. teosanru -> Hero Member from Sr. Member during Merit System kick-off. Note: -Copper Members and non-native ranks (staff, etc) are displayed as real (regular) ranks.
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July 16, 2021, 09:38:42 PM |
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Aggregate awarded sMerit for the last complete week (05/07/2021 .. 11/07/2021) is 6.910, which is up 121,97% from the previous week.
Wow, only a tad lower than the forum record I think is at 148,54%. Can you confirm that? I am going to comment on this record later, on another thread of yours.
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Third really, although each massive increase has it’s trigger event: 1) 17/09/2018 .. 23/09/2018 -> 167,35% increase from prior week -> 9.587 awarded Merits -> Trigger: Merit Source review 2) 18/11/2019 .. 24/11/2019 -> 148,54% increase from prior week -> 22.254 awarded Merits -> Trigger: 10th Anniversary art contest 3) 05/07/2021 .. 11/07/2021 -> 121,97% increase from prior week -> 6.910 awarded Merits -> Trigger: Merit Source review
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Thank you. Yes I was certain those surge in merit distribution are direct consequence of a specific event. However I genuinely tought art contest was by far the biggest one, but it probably spread his influence over multiple weeks.
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Update 23/07/2021:The dashboard gives you access to anyone’s complete merit history in the TX tab, surpassing the 120 day limit. Link: BitcoinTalk Merit Dashboard. Updated the Merit Dashboard to reflect the most recent sMerit available data: Total sMerit: 937.522 Total TXs: 508.355 From Users: 23.604 To Users: 39.865 minDate: 2018-01-24 22:12:21 maxDate: 2021-07-23 02:26:45 Aggregate awarded sMerit for the last complete week (12/07/2021 .. 18/07/2021) is 6.758, which is down 2,20% from the previous week. In addition, there are 2 new Legendary and 1 new Hero Members this week. Cnut237 -> Legendary from Full Member during Merit System kick-off. Julien_Olynpic -> Legendary from Full Member during Merit System kick-off. Nestade -> Hero Member from Member during Merit System kick-off. Note: -Copper Members and non-native ranks (staff, etc) are displayed as real (regular) ranks.
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Update 30/07/2021:The dashboard gives you access to anyone’s complete merit history in the TX tab, surpassing the 120 day limit. Link: BitcoinTalk Merit Dashboard. Updated the Merit Dashboard to reflect the most recent sMerit available data: Total sMerit: 943.009 Total TXs: 511.206 From Users: 23.627 To Users: 40.001 minDate: 2018-01-24 22:12:21 maxDate: 2021-07-30 02:46:39 Aggregate awarded sMerit for the last complete week (19/07/2021 .. 25/07/2021) is 6.352, which is down 6,01% from the previous week. In addition, there are 2 new Legendary and 4 new Hero Members this week. 20kevin20 -> Legendary from Sr. Member during Merit System kick-off. logfiles -> Legendary from New Era Newbie during Merit System kick-off. gembitz -> Hero Member from Sr. Member during Merit System kick-off. Husires -> Hero Member from Old Era Newbie during Merit System kick-off. Mpamaegbu -> Hero Member from Sr. Member during Merit System kick-off. suzanne5223 -> Hero Member from Sr. Member during Merit System kick-off. Note: -Copper Members and non-native ranks (staff, etc) are displayed as real (regular) ranks.
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It might be too early to call, but the downward trend is resuming. Of course some Merit sources have still adapt to new allowances, some might have depleted too quickly (I do plead guilty), while some other might still have a backlog.
Really curious about the new equilibrium.
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It might be too early to call, but the downward trend is resuming.
I think that last two weeks results are mostly due that sudden increase in merit; people probably spent it way fast, so merit shared started slowing down. 24773 merit shared during July is the best result in the last year and a half (since February 2020). Really curious about the new equilibrium.
Considering the overall lower forum activity, I think current amount of merit is more than enough, but yeah it will be interesting to see how it pans out in the next couple of months.
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It might be too early to call, but the downward trend is resuming.
That's surprising, especially after Theymos upped the sMerit allotments for merit sources and added new ones. Personally, I have never given out as many merits in a one month time period than I have in July. I started off the month with 1000 source sMerits, and as of this moment I think I have about 145 left. I wonder what the problem is. Are merit sources being stingy, or does the problem lie with members who aren't merit sources? It's all well and good that I gave out 800+ merits this month, but if the members who received them don't pay them forward....then there's a problem. Unfortunately, there's not much any of us can do to make anyone give out merits if they don't want to. I'd hate to have to factor in someone's merit-giving history before granting them merits, and it's not something I've thought of before and don't intend to do--but if I'm basically sending merits to a dead end, I'm not helping the merit system as a whole, and that's something I very much want to do. In addition, there are 2 new Legendary and 4 new Hero Members this week.
That seems absurdly low, but I don't know what the data looked like before the merit system started. DdmrDdmr, do you have any of that data compiled by any chance, i.e., how many new Hero and Legendary members there were on a weekly basis prior to January 2018?
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It’s actually a pretty decent week in terms of newly appointed high ranks. I don’t have exactly what I’d call comparable data. Since the introduction of the Merit System, I make it 145 accounts have made it to Legendary, and 158 to Hero, needing Merits in the process (see https://public.tableau.com/views/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/Ranked-up?:language=en-US&:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link). I don’t keep track of the associated ranking dates, other by the posting I make of those detected on a weekly basis (i.e. I’d need to go over all this thread to break these figures by year - end of 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021). The prior data I do have, which as I stated is not exactly on the same scale for comparison, is this: <…> 3. Legendary Date of Register vs Last Active<…> The focus is different, but we can see the difference in numbers (with a stretch of imagination).
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I wonder what the problem is. Are merit sources being stingy, or does the problem lie with members who aren't merit sources? I'm not sure merit source is stingy even though I haven't had the chance to receive merit from all merit source members. It is possible that the habits distribution of merit source of 1 merit per tx may affect the decline if they do not find more post to post merit. I don't know of any other reason worth dropping as some of the merit source can be seen depleting their sMerit faster than usual.
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July 30, 2021, 10:05:42 PM |
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I'd hate to have to factor in someone's merit-giving history before granting them merits, and it's not something I've thought of before and don't intend to do--but if I'm basically sending merits to a dead end, I'm not helping the merit system as a whole, and that's something I very much want to do.
I actually have done something similar to this in the past. I sent merits to a very good users, who later kept being in the first position of the list compiled by @Coin-1 of users with greater merit stash. So I didn’t sent him many merits untile he ed used to start useng his stash. As you said, sending merits to a merits hoarded doesn’t help the merit system and ultimately the forum.
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