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provided fake documents twice
I never sent any documents to any of you. I sent some JPG files because you are just bunch of Russians, which can not be taken seriously- you simply working illegally there and don't have any right to demand anything from anyone. The only mistake was that I did not send you a photo of my ass. I'm very sorry about that. BTW that issue is not related to our company. We suggest you to move discussion away from this topic, not to confuse other users. Hope for your understanding.
No. 100% related. You, Changelly, ChangeNOW and Guarda are the same people. Your co-founder Brusov is co-founder of Russian Evercode Lab (developer of ChangeNOW), so Gladych, Brusov, Sokolov, Lapin are responsible for theft of 100 BCH. Thank you for your post. You brought a lot of information to those of us that did not know.
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Atomic Wallet is registered in Estonia. That's pretty clear, if you click on the certificate on our web site. You may find information about our company in any public registry. Konstantin Gladych is our CEO and main cofounder. He was the CEO at Changelly for almost 3 years, but recently left company. It's a public information, as well. Other team members you may find in our public white paper. As for our legal company partner, we are not obliged to disclose that. KYC/AML is the common practice for any legal business to prevent money laundering. However Atomic Wallet is an anonymous custody free service, we don't have access to your private keys and funds. But if you use built-in 3rd party Changelly or ShapeShift exchanges, you accept their terms of use. Once again, the issue mentioned above is not related to Atomic Wallet service. If you have any claims to our company, feel free to send us request, or ask the local police department. If the issue concerns one of our exchange partners, they will provide information according to the Europol AML request to help investigation. We are pretty sure, changenow already did that concerning the fake user IDs.
Yes, yes, offshore company from Eeeeestonia. All St. Petersburg businessmen like this cheap offshore zone http://creditreports.ee/atomic-protocol-systems-ouIlia Brusov is also co-founder of Evercode Lab(developer of ChangeNOW). Ilia, return my money. When FSB takes you by the ass, then no Europol will help you. Hey, are there any funny guys here? Call to this idiot +7 921 652-75-27 and tell him WAZZZZZAAAAAAUP ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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It' scam?
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@Atomicwallet This project has many similarities to changenow. So, in the event there is a problem with Atomic Wallet in future please make clear: * the name of Atomic Wallets lawyer * the name of Atomic Wallets legal firm * the address of Atomic Wallets legal firm * the full address of your office in Estonia * what are the names of the owners of Atomic Swap? * what is your KYC/AML policy (nothing mentioned here: https://atomicwallet.freshdesk.com/support/home) * why is all the information regarding contact/ownership of Atomic Swaps pointing to anonymity and privacy? Seems very suspicious, same type of style as "changenow" scammers Thank you
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September 17, 2018, 07:13:54 PM Last edit: September 14, 2019, 11:47:58 PM by mprep |
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Good question. It depends on you, who to trust. Konstantin Gladych, who is working on crypto market over 3 years. Built huge sustainable business Changelly. With millions of users and reputable partners, like Binance, Jaxx, Coinomi, Exodus, Coinpayments, TrustWallet, Breadwallet, Bittrex, Coinmatketcap and others. And recently started the new project non-custodian Atomic Wallet with decentralized Atomic Swap exchange, that already gained popularity of more than 50.000 users worldwide. Or some random guy, who used pretty other service, tried to exchange huge amount of money in one transaction anonymously. But deposit was blocked, as a suspicious transaction according to AML policy. User has provided fake KYC twice, declined all the verification requests, registered dozens of accounts and started to chase company everywhere. Instead of simply provide the data and get money back. Legal investigation is still going.
@Atomicwallet This project has many similarities to changenow. So, in the event there is a problem with Atomic Wallet in future please make clear: * the name of Atomic Wallets lawyer * the name of Atomic Wallets legal firm * the address of Atomic Wallets legal firm * the full address of your office in Estonia * what are the names of the owners of Atomic Swap? * what is your KYC/AML policy (nothing mentioned here: https://atomicwallet.freshdesk.com/support/home) * why is all the information regarding contact/ownership of Atomic Swaps pointing to anonymity and privacy? Seems very suspicious, same type of style as "changenow" scammers Thank you We've already replied you a few posts before. Atomic Wallet is an anonymous custody free service, we don't have access to your private keys and funds. But if you use built-in 3rd party Changelly or ShapeShift exchanges, you should accept their terms of use and KYC/AML policy. As for our legal company partner, we are not obliged to disclose that. Atomic Wallet is registered in Estonia. Atomic Protocol Systems OU, it's pretty clear in a certificate on our web site and application. All the information about the company is available in any public registry, nothing to hide. ie https://www.e-krediidiinfo.ee/14519622-ATOMIC%20PROTOCOL%20SYSTEMS%20O%C3%9C
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Or some random guy, who used pretty other service
This is not other service. This is you Gladych (CEO and co-founder of Changelly) has another company Atomic Wallet (legal address of offshore company: Estonia, Tornimäe tn 5, 10117, Tallinn linn, Harju maakond) Atomic Wallet's co-founder is BrusovBrusov and Sokolov are co-founders of Evercode Lab; Sokolov is also co-founder of Guarda Wallet (legal address of offshore company: Estonia, Tornimäe tn 5, 10117, Tallinn linn, Harju maakond) Evercode Lab's co-founders are Lapin and Sergeev (CEO and lead developer of ChangeNOW) It's just happy St. Petersburg family And even new CEO of Changelly( Ilya Bere) which suddenly appeared after you received the zip archive with proofs of a strong connection between your companies is from St. Petersburg too! INVESTIGATION: https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@somenotesand/russia-s-changelly-atomic-wallet-changenow-guarda-ink-one-evercode-labdeclined all the verification requests
WHO ARE YOU TO DEMAND ANYTHING FROM ME?? You are Russian guy who working illegally, you are criminal there because cryptocurrency has no legal status in Russia. All your activities are shady there. You are actually engaged in illegal banking activities. I spit on you and do not take you seriously.
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WHO ARE YOU TO DEMAND ANYTHING FROM ME?? You are Russian guy who working illegally, you are criminal there because cryptocurrency has no legal status in Russia. All your activities are shady there. You are actually engaged in illegal banking activities. I spit on you and do not take you seriously. I got to say I absolutely love this guy. He takes no rubbish from nobody, he gives it back without hesitation. Kudos to you ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You saved hundreds of people from losing their money in Atomic Swaps and Changenow by using your own funds to pay for banner adverts. If everybody was as much focused and determined as you then this forum and the crypto world would be a better place. Changenow, Evercode and Atomic Swaps made a mistake with the wrong person when they messed with you. They had no idea you would expose them. I have so much respect you. Thank you for your efforts and hard work. Once again, the issue mentioned above is not related to Atomic Wallet service. If you have any claims to our company, feel free to send us request, or ask the local police department. If the issue concerns one of our exchange partners, they will provide information according to the Europol AML request to help investigation. We are pretty sure, changenow already did that concerning the fake user IDs. Definitely sound like the same scammers as changenow, mentioning AML and Europol. Selective scammers you have been exposed.
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September 17, 2018, 08:22:15 PM Last edit: September 17, 2018, 10:35:50 PM by Atomicwallet |
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We are not sure, what do you want from Atomic here? You've used pretty other service, and strictly violated their AML/KYC policy. We suggest you to stop wasting your time, you will get nothing from here, sorry. Just wait for the legal investigation and ask changenow directly. We suppose all your claims has been already provided to the Europol AML department. That's all.
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We are not sure, what do you want from Atomic here? You've used pretty other service, and strictly violated their AML/KYC policy. We suggest you to stop wasting your time, you will get nothing from here, sorry. Just wait for the legal investigation and ask changenow directly. We suppose all your claims has been already provided to the Europol AML department. That's all.
You repeat the same rubbish that is spouted by changenow.
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We are not sure, what do you want from Atomic here? You've used pretty other service, and strictly violated their AML/KYC policy.
You are directly related to ChangeNOW. Your co-founder Ilia Brusov is also co-founder of St. Petersburg Evercode Lab(developer of ChageNOW). You are one group of people from St. Petersburg which are dependent on each otherSo get used to the fact that I will not leave you(Russian Changelly, ChangeNOW, Guarda and Atomic) until you return illegally held money. We suppose all your claims has been already provided to the Europol AML department. That's all.
Europol Europol Europol Europol Europol. Is this a spell? Why are you repeating it all the time? You see, this magic does not affect me Maybe you are just insane matej krkic / crazy_elky? He has been repeating this for 2 months and can not stop ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2FQM6JCqDC%2F2018-09-17.png&t=665&c=6NVXMiIAgfkUGg) You can write and complain anywhere. I fucked it all. No, not because I'm such a terrible bandit. I just have everything by law and I have nothing to fear. But you( in particular Ilya Brusov) can have real problems with the law in your homeland on the issue of illegal banking
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September 17, 2018, 11:31:11 PM Last edit: September 18, 2018, 12:18:01 AM by Atomicwallet |
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Just for your education. Crypto still not has any status in russia, legal or illegal. Atomic and other mentioned companies have no crypto or fiat related businesses in russia. Engineers maybe located anywhere and work for local service company, actually Russian developers are one of the best.
You had the deal with foreign operating company, strictly violated KYC/AML policy by providing fake documents twice. Instead of cooperation, you've started to threat from various accounts. Now you are responsible by the law.
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Fact: Atomic Wallet is run by people with connections to Evercode and Changenow (both have been declared as scammers by several people here)
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Just for your education. Crypto still not has any status in russia, legal or illegal. Atomic and other mentioned companies have no crypto or fiat related businesses in russia. Engineers maybe located anywhere and work for local service company, actually Russian developers are one of the best.
You are not engineers. You are engaged in illegal exchange of cryptocurrency. You can not do this in Russia without violating the RUSSIAN laws. You had the deal with foreign operating company,
Yes, Estonian and Belize foreign COMPANIES ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I do not take your offshore proxies seriously. Do you understand how many such companies I can buy for 70 thousand dollars? 70! But this does not give me the right to withhold other people's money. Instead of cooperation
I will never cooperate with brazen Russian guys who work illegally in its country. Just return the money back. You know that these coins are crystal clear since I have whitelisted account in your Changelly, you've started to threat from various accounts
Threat? What exactly did I threaten? And what various accounts? I don't have other accounts here and do not have any "workers" on this forum. by providing fake documents twice
You know perfectly well that I just sent some JPG files to illegal bunch of Russian guys. There is no country in the world where JPG images would have the status of documents. But you scammers play these words and accuse me of forging Documents (a serious crime that is punishable by imprisonment). Sooner or later you will have to answer for the spreading of this lie
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> Sooner or later you will have to answer for the spreading of this lie
Dear ni23457, I'm sure in fact you'll answer for your scam with voyagerapp ico.
Everybody should know that you are a scammer and you've stolen money
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Oh! Trolls drove up! Now they will shit in this topic too. you'll answer for your scam with voyagerapp ico.
I'll try but what is it? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Everybody should know that you are a scammer and you've stolen money
Ok, but why your Changelly gave me whitelisted account and exchanged huuuuge amount of coins? (really a lot of coins. you will never have that much ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) )
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The best thing I did when I read the investigations carried out by the OP was to delete the Atomic Swaps wallet ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Everybody must avoid these scammers
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The best thing I did when I read the investigations carried out by the OP was to delete the Atomic Swaps wallet ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Everybody must avoid these scammers The best thing everyone should do is to check your trust and feedback first ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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The best thing I did when I read the investigations carried out by the OP was to delete the Atomic Swaps wallet ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Everybody must avoid these scammers The best thing everyone should do is to check your trust and feedback first ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) this is actually true, I hope you do the exact same thing as what we do, namely removing the Grin Atomic Swaps wallet, immediately before you feel it.
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