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It is not worth downloading Atomic Swaps to your system. Keep your crypto safe, avoid Atomic Swaps.
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private sale is over when main sale starting and price now ?
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September 25, 2018, 08:17:38 PM |
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private sale is over when main sale starting and price now ?
I do not understand your question, I will explain a little about Public sale. Public sale The crowdsale will start on October 1, 2018. The maximum possible number of issued tokens is 100,000,000. This amount of emission is possible only on condition that all investments are collected to the maximum allowable amounts of 1,000,000, and a hard cap is reached. The minimum number of tokens to be issued is set to 25,000,000. This amount of emission is possible only on condition that all investments are collected with minimum allowable amounts of 100,000, and the minimum amount necessary for the development of the project is achieved. Due to the instability of the ETH with respect to USD, the price for one AWC-token in ETH will be refined several days prior the ICO. The final starting price will be determined on the day of the ICO. Atomic Wallet team preserves it’s right to skip crowdsale stage in case necessary funds are raised on the private sale stage. Final solution regarding crowdsale to be published here: https://github.com/Atomicwallet. Please download the whitepaper to see more about sale.
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September 25, 2018, 10:11:25 PM Last edit: September 14, 2019, 11:48:39 PM by mprep |
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Fact: Atomic Wallet is run by people with connections to Evercode and Changenow (both have been declared as scammers by several people here)
Thanks for heads up again! The mentioned issue was NOT related directly to our company. As we see, ni23457 used pretty other service and strictly VIOLATED their AML/KYC policy by providing FAKE documents twice. Instead of legal investigation, he started to chase company anonymously from various FAKE accounts. Seems to be pretty clear the only way to resolve the dispute is to identify the customer, prove the source of funds and complete legal investigation on possible money laundering. here is some INVESTIGATION from the other side https://medium.com/@arennathan9/changenow-scam-or-review-how-ni23457-blackmails-the-exchange-978c483ef81a
private sale is over when main sale starting and price now ?
I do not understand your question, I will explain a little about Public sale. Public sale The crowdsale will start on October 1, 2018. The maximum possible number of issued tokens is 100,000,000. This amount of emission is possible only on condition that all investments are collected to the maximum allowable amounts of 1,000,000, and a hard cap is reached. The minimum number of tokens to be issued is set to 25,000,000. This amount of emission is possible only on condition that all investments are collected with minimum allowable amounts of 100,000, and the minimum amount necessary for the development of the project is achieved. Due to the instability of the ETH with respect to USD, the price for one AWC-token in ETH will be refined several days prior the ICO. The final starting price will be determined on the day of the ICO. Atomic Wallet team preserves it’s right to skip crowdsale stage in case necessary funds are raised on the private sale stage. Final solution regarding crowdsale to be published here: https://github.com/Atomicwallet. Please download the whitepaper to see more about sale. Hey. Thanks for clarification. We are still in a private sale mode. The list of confirmed investors you may find on our website in a Token sale page. For all the public sale announcements we suggest you to subscribe for our news letters: https://atomicwallet.io/
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September 26, 2018, 07:52:03 AM |
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Gladyshev, your stupid bots do not answer. So maybe you can comment on this? You are afraid to answer in my topic, so I will ask you here: as the transaction in question was performed there.
Hm.. but the topic is not about my transaction. The topic is about that you are from St. Petersburg and your key persons use fake names. How would you comment on this? How can someone trust you(the company with fake location and fake superiors)? And the topic is also about how you protect ChangeNOWTherefore, we strongly recommend contacting ChangeNOW directly
And you perfectly know that this part of you ignore all my emails since July 19
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September 26, 2018, 09:25:41 AM |
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Fact: Atomic Wallet is run by people with connections to Evercode and Changenow and Changelly (all have been declared as scammers by several people here) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034589.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4619534.0Please stay from Atomic Swaps and NEVER part with your money either by swapping with them or by investing in the ICOThese changenow scammers are trying to say the OP tried to launder money but these scammer thieves at changenow are the ones who did the stealing. As for who is laundering money, will Atomic Swaps, Changenow, Evercode and Changelly ever release tax returns and shows statistics of which coins they are actually swapping? No, because they are scamming lying thieves. I am so glad the OP exposed Atomic Swaps wallet as thieves I am so glad the OP exposed Changelly as thieves I am so glad the OP exposed Changenow as thieves I am so glad the OP exposed Evercode as thieves And I am so glad the OP linked many things between these various trading names to expose them as having connections to the same bunch of scammers. These websites are all fronts run by the same scamming thieves designed to pull you in by showing they are legitimate but then do selective scamming.
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September 27, 2018, 03:15:08 PM Last edit: September 14, 2019, 11:50:46 PM by mprep |
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So Gladyshev, maybe you tell us about real location of your services and close connection with ChangeNOW? The problem is that your pathetic proxy just stole my money and ignored all my letters from July 19. And now you are silent too. Do you hope that your silence will help people to forget about this situation? People will never forget this. It's only begining. It's impossible to steal money and continue to run your business. This is impossible in my case.
Gladyshev, your pathetic proxy disappeared. So answer: How cynical it is ChangeNOW Last Active: September 13, 2018, 09:36:46 AMPolina_ChangeNOW Last Active: September 23, 2018, 07:35:02 PMThey realized that it's impossible to fool this forum anymore and just forgot about it. But they will continue to fool people elsewhere. I remind you that recently they talked about the refund and they were looking for "legal" ways to deny me in it. As for the refund - we will refund the OP as soon as we have legal grounds for that. We really hope that this situation is resolved as soon as possible.
But later it became known that At the same time, I was a customer of Changelly and have whitelisted account there and exchanged hundreds of bitcoins in recent months without any kind of KYC. (it's funny but they gave me whitelisted account after ChangeNOW's scam!) The fact is that I have 5-year-old crystal clear coins, so it never aroused suspicion from anyone.
And they realized that lying about their fear of Europol (if they return my coins) will not work and decided to just disappear from here.
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October 01, 2018, 03:54:29 PM |
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private sale is over when main sale starting and price now ?
I do not understand your question, I will explain a little about Public sale. Public sale The crowdsale will start on October 1, 2018. The maximum possible number of issued tokens is 100,000,000. This amount of emission is possible only on condition that all investments are collected to the maximum allowable amounts of 1,000,000, and a hard cap is reached. The minimum number of tokens to be issued is set to 25,000,000. This amount of emission is possible only on condition that all investments are collected with minimum allowable amounts of 100,000, and the minimum amount necessary for the development of the project is achieved. Due to the instability of the ETH with respect to USD, the price for one AWC-token in ETH will be refined several days prior the ICO. The final starting price will be determined on the day of the ICO. Atomic Wallet team preserves it’s right to skip crowdsale stage in case necessary funds are raised on the private sale stage. Final solution regarding crowdsale to be published here: https://github.com/Atomicwallet. Please download the whitepaper to see more about sale. Hey. Thanks for clarification. We are still in a private sale mode. The list of confirmed investors you may find on our website in a Token sale page. For all the public sale announcements we suggest you to subscribe for our news letters: https://atomicwallet.io/Scammers... who in their right mind would invest in Atomic Swaps or Changelly or Changenow or Evercode ?? You are all interconnected bunch of scammers operating a scam operation under various aliases
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Atomicwallet (OP)
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October 01, 2018, 04:35:42 PM |
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Once again. The mentioned issue was NOT related directly to our company. As we see, ni23457 used pretty other service and strictly VIOLATED their AML/KYC policy by providing FAKE documents twice. Instead of legal investigation, he started to chase company anonymously from various FAKE accounts. Seems to be pretty clear the only way to resolve the dispute is to identify the customer, prove the source of funds and complete legal investigation on possible money laundering. here is some INVESTIGATION from the other side https://medium.com/@arennathan9/changenow-scam-or-review-how-ni23457-blackmails-the-exchange-978c483ef81a
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October 01, 2018, 04:42:23 PM Last edit: October 02, 2018, 09:02:03 AM by ni23457 |
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Once again. The mentioned issue was NOT related directly to our company. As we see, ni23457 used pretty other service and strictly VIOLATED their AML/KYC policy by providing FAKE documents twice [jpg files, bitch : )]. Instead of legal investigation, he started to chase company anonymously from various FAKE accounts. Seems to be pretty clear the only way to resolve the dispute is to identify the customer, prove the source of funds and complete legal investigation on possible money laundering. here is some INVESTIGATION from the other side https://medium.com/@arennathan9/changenow-scam-or-review-how-ni23457-blackmails-the-exchange-978c483ef81a You distribute it, insult me, defend selective scammers. But you deny that these scammers are part of your St. Petersburg group? And how does this relate to money laundering, pathetic liar? Who is launderer?At the same time, I was a customer of Changelly and have whitelisted account there and exchanged hundreds of bitcoins in recent months without any kind of KYC. (it's funny but they gave me whitelisted account after ChangeNOW's scam!) The fact is that I have 5-year-old crystal clear coins, so it never aroused suspicion from anyone.
I am sure you will lose much more than 100 BCH. You behave too blatantly.
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October 01, 2018, 05:01:39 PM |
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Once again. The mentioned issue was NOT related directly to our company. As we see, ni23457 used pretty other service and strictly VIOLATED their AML/KYC policy by providing FAKE documents twice. Instead of legal investigation, he started to chase company anonymously from various FAKE accounts. Seems to be pretty clear the only way to resolve the dispute is to identify the customer, prove the source of funds and complete legal investigation on possible money laundering. "complete legal investigation on possible money laundering"You pathetic scamming thieves. You are in it together with Changenow, Changelly and Evercode because you all post the same lies and propaganda. I am so glad ni23457 managed to find out that you all are the same pathetic scammers using multiple alias operating the same scam under different names. He is right, currently he may have lost 100+ BCH to your pathetic scam but in the long run your scam businesses and scam aliases will lose lots more.
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October 02, 2018, 09:02:17 AM |
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is to identify the customer, prove the source of funds and complete legal investigation on possible money laundering.
You are pathetic liar answer me. Who is launderer?At the same time, I was a customer of Changelly and have whitelisted account there and exchanged hundreds of bitcoins in recent months without any kind of KYC. (it's funny but they gave me whitelisted account after ChangeNOW's scam!) The fact is that I have 5-year-old crystal clear coins, so it never aroused suspicion from anyone.
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October 02, 2018, 12:57:48 PM Last edit: October 02, 2018, 01:21:57 PM by BitCent Exchange |
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Scammers... who in their right mind would invest in Atomic Swaps or Changelly or Changenow or Evercode ??
You are all interconnected bunch of scammers operating a scam operation under various aliases
Don't see if any single questions by ni23457 answered by Changelly a.k.a. AtomicWallet a.k.a Changenow a.k.a Evercode. You pathetic scamming thieves. You are in it together with Changenow, Changelly and Evercode because you all post the same lies and propaganda.
I am so glad ni23457 managed to find out that you all are the same pathetic scammers using multiple alias operating the same scam under different names.
He is right, currently he may have lost 100+ BCH to your pathetic scam but in the long run your scam businesses and scam aliases will lose lots more.
Finally, the truth has spoken. These four entities belong to the same.
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October 02, 2018, 01:16:03 PM |
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Scammers... who in their right mind would invest in Atomic Swaps or Changelly or Changenow or Evercode ??
You are all interconnected bunch of scammers operating a scam operation under various aliases
Don't see if any questions by ni23457 answered by Changelly a.k.a. AtomicWallet a.k.a Changenow a.k.a Evercode. You pathetic scamming thieves. You are in it together with Changenow, Changelly and Evercode because you all post the same lies and propaganda.
I am so glad ni23457 managed to find out that you all are the same pathetic scammers using multiple alias operating the same scam under different names.
He is right, currently he may have lost 100+ BCH to your pathetic scam but in the long run your scam businesses and scam aliases will lose lots more.
Finally, the truth has spoken. These four entities belong to the same. Thank you for your kind post. You are right, these are a bunch of scamming thieves but they will certainly make millions from the Atomic Swaps ICO and from their selective scamming at Changelly and Changenow. Thankfully one potential Atomic Swaps ICO investor has decided to pull out and not invest. Please check his post and my post in this thread titled " CHANGELLY - Illegal exchanger from RUSSIA with FAKE team" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034589.msg46427580#msg46427580
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October 04, 2018, 08:06:11 AM |
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Unfortunately, I can not ask this question to ChangeNOW which partially owned by your co-founder Brusov, since they disappeared from this forum and ignore all my emails since July 19 Therefore, please explain why your group does not return my money? Previously, they explained their theft by fearing Europol. They told fairy tales that they could not simply return such a large amount without documents, because they were afraid that then Europol would accuse them of something because of this. But now everyone knows that you are working with amounts tens of times more without documents and are not afraid of Europol At the same time, I was a customer of Changelly and have whitelisted account there and exchanged hundreds of bitcoins in recent months without any kind of KYC. (it's funny but they gave me whitelisted account after ChangeNOW's scam!) The fact is that I have 5-year-old crystal clear coins, so it never aroused suspicion from anyone.
So why do your St. Petersburg group not return my money to me? What is the explanation? Again, I do not need your exchange. I have asked you for a refund in the last 3 months. What logically correct reasons do you have to deny it to me?
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October 04, 2018, 06:21:45 PM |
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I noticed bnktothefuture.com is among the list of partners so people will be able to invest through that platform or not? It seems there is some controversy if you will make it list there for fund raising than it will get more better response.
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October 04, 2018, 06:24:10 PM |
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I noticed bnktothefuture.com is among the list of partners so people will be able to invest through that platform or not? It seems there is some controversy if you will make it list there for fund raising than it will get more better response.
If bnktothefuture.com come to learn about the scam owners and scam group behind Changelly, Evercode, Changenow and Atomic Swaps then they will stop being a partner with these scammers.
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October 07, 2018, 09:16:31 AM |
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Brusov Ilya Vladimirovich (co-founder of Atomic Wallet https://creditreports.ee/atomic-protocol-systems-ou), you are also co-founder of Evercode Lab ( https://zachestnyibiznes.ru/company/ul/1137847068017_7804502846_OOO-EVERKOD-LAB developer of ChangeNOW), your bots ChangeNOW , Polina_ChangeNOW disappeared from the forum and do not post 2 weeks here. So please reply to me Earlier, you explained the impossibility of returning the money without documents to me because you are afraid that my money was stolen and you are afraid that you may have problems with Europol.But as soon as it became known, you immediately disappeared from the forum: At the same time, I was a customer of Changelly[actually parent of ChangeNOW, as it became known later] and have whitelisted account there and exchanged hundreds of bitcoins in recent months without any kind of KYC. (it's funny but they gave me whitelisted account after ChangeNOW's scam!) The fact is that I have 5-year-old crystal clear coins, so it never aroused suspicion from anyone.
What is the reason to refuse me in refund? After all, you can no longer lie about the fear of Europol. Then why do you keep my money for 3 months?
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October 10, 2018, 12:12:33 AM |
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Scammers... who in their right mind would invest in Atomic Swaps or Changelly or Changenow or Evercode ??
You are all interconnected bunch of scammers operating a scam operation under various aliases
Don't see if any single questions by ni23457 answered by Changelly a.k.a. AtomicWallet a.k.a Changenow a.k.a Evercode. You pathetic scamming thieves. You are in it together with Changenow, Changelly and Evercode because you all post the same lies and propaganda.
I am so glad ni23457 managed to find out that you all are the same pathetic scammers using multiple alias operating the same scam under different names.
He is right, currently he may have lost 100+ BCH to your pathetic scam but in the long run your scam businesses and scam aliases will lose lots more.
Finally, the truth has spoken. These four entities belong to the same. Now that has been discovered it is important to spread the word otherwise more people will get selective scammed too.
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