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February 05, 2014, 06:42:52 AM
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This is extract from previous thread of Murraycoin, which dev closed (of course there are too many bad news there):


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Bill Murray is a nice guy and a great actor, but just because of that, doesn't mean you want to take advantage of him. The guy made this is not doing it not in his tribute but profiting off his back, a classic grade A douche-bag move.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=424179.msg4619288#msg4619288


No exchange will list this scamcoin because if it does, it will be named in the possible lawsuit against the coin, similar to Coinye.

Also, dev premined massive coins, here are the two (of many) accounts owned by dev:


http://cryptexplorer.com/address/MA5WmiMdtgodMWu5atJtGu6uUtidCJUvDf
Balance   415573.29515538 MRY

another one is this:
http://cryptexplorer.com/address/MJjevo9ZvQuksm9t5W59NkyaGJ5CvJ3HPu
Balance   357654.70663196 MRY

See the original thread for details!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=424179.0

DO NOT waste your time there!


douche-bag dev... unbelievable
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February 05, 2014, 08:55:36 AM
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please sell me some of your MRY


btw, what you mentioned there about TMZ and the like all falls under the 1st amendment, the MRY endeavor without Murray's ok doesn't come close to protected under the same guideline.  Murray has some time to decide if he wants to sue over it, but the best thing for him to do is to make a deal with the coin, then float a lie to the media of his intent to sue.  The there will be a big flap about scam, bitcoin blunder, blah, blah, boo, bo and the coin value will increase, then Murray announces an agreement, and the coin increases again.

No! [greedily pulls away stack of coins with both arms]

The "MRY endeavor" isn't protected? Friend, there wasn't even such thing as cryptocurrency a few years ago! Just because Kanye sued Coinye doesn't mean there are actual LAWS about this stuff. Yes, your assets (namely websites using your name) can be seized pending litigation, but everything's mostly up in the air at this point. And regardless, Coinye is still being mined (and traded in the shadows) because you can't ban a decentralized network without a large, focused effort.
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February 05, 2014, 03:53:54 PM
Last edit: February 06, 2014, 01:17:36 AM by sam53
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please sell me some of your MRY


btw, what you mentioned there about TMZ and the like all falls under the 1st amendment, the MRY endeavor without Murray's ok doesn't come close to protected under the same guideline.  Murray has some time to decide if he wants to sue over it, but the best thing for him to do is to make a deal with the coin, then float a lie to the media of his intent to sue.  The there will be a big flap about scam, bitcoin blunder, blah, blah, boo, bo and the coin value will increase, then Murray announces an agreement, and the coin increases again.

No! [greedily pulls away stack of coins with both arms]

The "MRY endeavor" isn't protected? Friend, there wasn't even such thing as cryptocurrency a few years ago! Just because Kanye sued Coinye doesn't mean there are actual LAWS about this stuff. Yes, your assets (namely websites using your name) can be seized pending litigation, but everything's mostly up in the air at this point. And regardless, Coinye is still being mined (and traded in the shadows) because you can't ban a decentralized network without a large, focused effort.

We will see. The problem is that the coin created without Murray's consent. If this were to work, the the good people's fame would be in random hands, which is ridiculous.
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February 06, 2014, 01:18:16 AM
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Either way you can't just take a man's brand and use it as you wish.

Exactly, this is right on the spot.
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February 08, 2014, 06:03:49 AM
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Either way you can't just take a man's brand and use it as you wish.

Exactly, this is right on the spot.


Please don't take my words out of context, clearly it is known that Kanye has not authorize the coin in his name, however we really know nothing about the MRY coin, it could very well be authorized.

Let's not rush to judgement
Yes right, if the dev has Murray's consent, there will be no arguments at all.

The fact is, the dev holds more than 10% of the coins, and now using a famous person's name to promote for his own wealth, what a nice moral.
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February 08, 2014, 10:29:12 AM
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Nobody knows Murrays thoughts on this coin. I'm not against it particularly until any info on that is released. If he is against it I would respect his wishes and not have anything further to do with it. I'm mining personally because I think he would

I don't think you can speak on the devs holdings other than baseless speculation. I've personally been in the pool with others and you can see he has been in the pool but only with a low hash rate initially...

I would just ask that you don't poo-poo this coin unless its more than just speculation
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February 09, 2014, 12:50:13 AM
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The fact is, the dev holds more than 10% of the coins, and now using a famous person's name to promote for his own wealth, what a nice moral.

Do you have any data points to support what you said? I am looking for a good coin to mine, this coin seems good except I have concerns about the authorization by Murray and if the dev holds unreasonably too many coins like 10% or more.
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February 09, 2014, 01:14:43 AM
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I don't have time to spend on this scamcoin, nor I am interested in digging deeper for all the details. I am too busy with my real life work. But let me tell you that all the truth are in the blockchain. The blockchain does not lie. If you want the truth, go to block explorer, and see how the coins sent around, and you will see the dev hold 10+% of the coins. You can try yourself, here's the block explorer:
http://cryptexplorer.com/chain/MurrayCoin

Hint: start from his charity fund donation address:
MMY6zFXDw6B7wqot2r2cqyQE7c4e7iL6qv

the dev claimed he donated the most. Have fun.
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February 09, 2014, 02:10:43 AM
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I don't have time to spend on this scamcoin, nor I am interested in digging deeper for all the details. I am too busy with my real life work. But let me tell you that all the truth are in the blockchain. The blockchain does not lie. If you want the truth, go to block explorer, and see how the coins sent around, and you will see the dev hold 10+% of the coins. You can try yourself, here's the block explorer:
http://cryptexplorer.com/chain/MurrayCoin

Hint: start from his charity fund donation address:
MMY6zFXDw6B7wqot2r2cqyQE7c4e7iL6qv

the dev claimed he donated the most. Have fun.

Thank you for information. Will look at it.
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February 10, 2014, 06:57:33 PM
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I don't have time to spend on this scamcoin, nor I am interested in digging deeper for all the details. I am too busy with my real life work. But let me tell you that all the truth are in the blockchain. The blockchain does not lie. If you want the truth, go to block explorer, and see how the coins sent around, and you will see the dev hold 10+% of the coins. You can try yourself, here's the block explorer:
http://cryptexplorer.com/chain/MurrayCoin

Hint: start from his charity fund donation address:
MMY6zFXDw6B7wqot2r2cqyQE7c4e7iL6qv

the dev claimed he donated the most. Have fun.

Thank you for information. Will look at it.

It's nothing but speculation that the dev has that many coins.  I have been mining the coin off and on from about the release time and I'll tell you I have a nice stack.  Picking wallets from people who mined from the first day and assuming it's the dev's account is nothing but speculation AT BEST.  Every wallet you have posted to date has shown whoever's wallet it is has been mining and continues to mine the coin. 

The last post you made with wallets included this one: http://cryptexplorer.com/address/MA5WmiMdtgodMWu5atJtGu6uUtidCJUvDf

As of block 1514 this account had 46K coins out of nearly 3M mined, that's 1.5% and the rest have been mined since then and it looks like it is still mining with a payout earlier today.  You are really going to call someone out for continuing to mine their own coin AFTER it's fair release?  And that's even saying it is a dev account!  If it was pre-mined that's a whole different story than someone who has mined it consistently for almost 3 weeks now. 

Following the block chain shows no foul play at all.  If you look at sam53's post history, you would see the last 3 weeks he has not made a post that's related to ANYTHING but trying to drag Murraycoin and it's dev through the mud.

murrayCOIN - The Only Currency Worthy of the Name
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February 14, 2014, 05:03:20 AM
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I don't have time to spend on this scamcoin, nor I am interested in digging deeper for all the details. I am too busy with my real life work. But let me tell you that all the truth are in the blockchain. The blockchain does not lie. If you want the truth, go to block explorer, and see how the coins sent around, and you will see the dev hold 10+% of the coins. You can try yourself, here's the block explorer:
http://cryptexplorer.com/chain/MurrayCoin

Hint: start from his charity fund donation address:
MMY6zFXDw6B7wqot2r2cqyQE7c4e7iL6qv

the dev claimed he donated the most. Have fun.
Wow, you found an address with a heap of coins, where is your correlation on this address belonging to the developer?

These accounts could belong to Bill Murray, and the Murray Bros. Foundation as an incentive to affiliate, for all you know.

It's funny, you start a thread bashing the developer, with the clear intention of bringing up accusations of pre-mine, which may I note, can be clearly found in the code of a coin, and then you are suddenly 'too busy' when your troll accounts didn't work out the way you thought they would.

If you are bringing laws and accusations into this, why not look up a few of these ones; http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ca191482/s41.html - Let me know where you are located, as I'm sure I can find a law your post falls under if we are heading in this direction.

The fact is, no one but the developers of this coin know if Bill Murray is a supporter or not, so you bringing in baseless accusations of him going to sue has no merit, in fact it further puts a negative image on your profile, as you can clearly click 'Show recent posts' and see you have a vendetta.

Is it a coincidence that ALL the first posters agreeing with you in this thread either come from the SAME thread (Elefunt coinz) or have such a low post count they should be in the newbie section introducing themselves?

and apparently FusionHash has donated the most.

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February 18, 2014, 06:14:44 AM
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I don't have time to spend on this scamcoin, nor I am interested in digging deeper for all the details. I am too busy with my real life work. But let me tell you that all the truth are in the blockchain. The blockchain does not lie. If you want the truth, go to block explorer, and see how the coins sent around, and you will see the dev hold 10+% of the coins. You can try yourself, here's the block explorer:
http://cryptexplorer.com/chain/MurrayCoin

Hint: start from his charity fund donation address:
MMY6zFXDw6B7wqot2r2cqyQE7c4e7iL6qv

the dev claimed he donated the most. Have fun.
Wow, you found an address with a heap of coins, where is your correlation on this address belonging to the developer?

These accounts could belong to Bill Murray, and the Murray Bros. Foundation as an incentive to affiliate, for all you know.

It's funny, you start a thread bashing the developer, with the clear intention of bringing up accusations of pre-mine, which may I note, can be clearly found in the code of a coin, and then you are suddenly 'too busy' when your troll accounts didn't work out the way you thought they would.

If you are bringing laws and accusations into this, why not look up a few of these ones; http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ca191482/s41.html - Let me know where you are located, as I'm sure I can find a law your post falls under if we are heading in this direction.

The fact is, no one but the developers of this coin know if Bill Murray is a supporter or not, so you bringing in baseless accusations of him going to sue has no merit, in fact it further puts a negative image on your profile, as you can clearly click 'Show recent posts' and see you have a vendetta.

Is it a coincidence that ALL the first posters agreeing with you in this thread either come from the SAME thread (Elefunt coinz) or have such a low post count they should be in the newbie section introducing themselves?

and apparently FusionHash has donated the most.

Alienwalkerx

Open your eyes wide, and look at the facts. Just follow the facts in block explorer, you see everything.

I saw someone already posted in Murraycoin's thread with what he found, I won't repeat here. Looks like his original post was deleted by the dev, but someone else quoted him, we still see the post here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=436190.msg5029578#msg5029578

Let me quote it here, so the dev can not delete it:

1.The dev in the thread is bholzer.
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[snip]

CryptoLogo, I took a look at the block explorer, here is what I found:

1. From the charity donation address MMY6zFXDw6B7wqot2r2cqyQE7c4e7iL6qv, you can see the incoming of the donations here:
http://cryptexplorer.com/address/MMY6zFXDw6B7wqot2r2cqyQE7c4e7iL6qv

take a look at the top 6 donations:
41745.91 MRYs: this is the second donation
http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/2fb8295f8067ab02243d2dcfa2fe70d8a5acb8eabffe27359e83de5b8de2e0d2#o1
18091.221 MRYs:
http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/c002a32b31b79a69ad69128aa5729d0e92e0386e4ad641306931a21470bb385a#o1
17586 MRYs:
http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/cd0d8d0806ce40d88bf0c14c7aa084ac8ff49b36ddc58b5d660b913be71cd2c1#o1
15239.596 MRYs:
http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/ddca9e78e6612280483d91a1eeeac2e0dfccd4320c97dcfb77d1193c32ef9d11#o0
10000 MRYs:
http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/9b55523582b887c66385ef84c8640795ff9d553f6a38cddee72ee9030efcb795#o0
10000 MRYs:
http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/1ed887ab831a69f0c1786d00303c2621177cae980ca2bb934089e5d2cce8f8be#o0

you see 5 of 6 donations come from this address:
M9yVH9x9N6pBx83j8C57nwgfwzf7ee5dth
and another (3rd in the list) from this address:
MK8Vx5D7oF8heKZns7JShJJnN18UuoDT1m

The first address looks like dev's mining account. The second address, if you look into it, it receives many coins from elsewhere. Clicking on these transactions showed almost all of them come from M9yVH9x9N6pBx83j8C57nwgfwzf7ee5dth. So it is also an account of the dev. It has 471942.28095874 MRY in it.

M9yVH9x9N6pBx83j8C57nwgfwzf7ee5dth I can't see the balance, as it has too many transactions.

The other two accounts said to be dev's, in another thread:
http://cryptexplorer.com/address/MA5WmiMdtgodMWu5atJtGu6uUtidCJUvDf
http://cryptexplorer.com/address/MJjevo9ZvQuksm9t5W59NkyaGJ5CvJ3HPu

looking into them, and see where the coins come from, again most come from M9yVH9x9N6pBx83j8C57nwgfwzf7ee5dth.

The two accounts have 601656.45518613 MRY and 472781.86760047 MRY respectively.

So in total about 1.55 million MRYs from the 3 accounts from dev. Block explorer shows outstanding coin count is 14459840. This is about 11%. Do I miss something there? If so please let me know.


Pay special attentions to where the coins for the 3 accounts which contain more than 10% coins come from, all come from this address:
M9yVH9x9N6pBx83j8C57nwgfwzf7ee5dth

which is dev's mining account, you see the mined blocks go there, then blocks are transferred to his "saving" accounts.

again, I have no time to dig deeper in this,  it's a waste of my time. Dev probably has more accounts. But fact is fact, and the blockchain does not lie, it has all the facts there.

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February 19, 2014, 03:27:32 AM
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Alienwalkerx, try to misquote what I said? another acct of dev? don't waste your time in my thread.
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February 19, 2014, 03:54:06 AM
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I didn't include your quote because it was very long.

But here is my response:

TLDR, everyone here is already invested, all you are doing is making yourself look bad.

You are repeating yourself, anyone can find an address with a large amount of coins, you stating over and over that the address is the devs, does NOT make it so!

Block explorer ≠ Facts.
Block explorer = List of transactions.

Do you need to register your Name and Address when setting up a wallet? Because, unless so...

appreciate the non-delete, you can check my account if you don't think I'm legit.

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